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A consequence of Twitter rate limits is the disruption of real-time censorship -- PJW (www.youtube.com)
posted 3 years ago by Erithal 3 years ago by Erithal +26 / -0
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– Erithal [S] 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Paul James Joseph Watson's take is that unlimited access to Twitter ending prevents the kind data scraping needed for comprehensive AI analysis and real-time narrative control.

I don't think he's wrong. The idea of government backdoors more or less negates PJW's optimistic take.

I also think there are going to be a host of unintended consequences, but the blue bird deserves a good throttling.

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– FrozeInFear 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

real-time narrative control.

By extension, that includes real-time narrative correction. Anyone trying to counter a mass media narrative is going to be in an uphill battle.

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– Erithal [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Correct.

And given the government probably has backdoors to continue these 'corrections' unimpeded? I am not optimistic.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

He is very wrong. This is Q-tier nonsense.

It might disrupt corrupt governments like those in the US and Europe spying on their peoples though. However, I'm pretty sure Twitter has a backdoor for them, because otherwise they'd shut it down.

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– Erithal [S] 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

It might disrupt corrupt governments like those in the US and Europe spying on their peoples though. However, I'm pretty sure Twitter has a backdoor for them, because otherwise they'd shut it down.

I find the idea of there being a backdoor quite likely. That would mean PJW is off-base by virtue of the government still having direct access.

I also suspect Elon might be trying to drive the AI farms to negotiate payments for scraping rights than anything else. Twitter's data would be extremely valuable fodder for training Large Language Models, and Elon probably wants a cut. Cutting Google services out of the loop would be part of this, since if they're providing cloud services, they are in a position to demand payment from Twitter for hosting the very data set they're sampling.

No matter how you cut it, user convenience will be a casualty. Not that it matters: the users are the product-- not the customers.

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– fauxgnaws 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Elon is trying to convert Twitter users into X jack of all trades monopoly on everything company and to do that he needs to know who the users are.

He's converting anonymous Twitter readers into ones that have an account and can be offered other X stuff.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– kxitx 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

someone in my year at university (not an american university) was doing something on twitter and AI and needed to scrape a bunch of information from twitter directly though its public APIs

a few days before he said he would have been finished and ready to let his system do its thing elon/twitter banned exactly what he wanted to do (and i think the API was changed to prevent it as well)

so driving the AI farms to pay him or something kind of tracks

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's also possible that backdoor changed. It could be a slow comply thing now.

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– Skywise 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I’m sure there are back doors - but this throttles information propagation and this slows down the AI rec time before it can get its confidence rating up. (If we’re going on that theory - I don’t think that’s true because we’d already be hearing the govts up in arms about Elon blocking government efforts.)

More likely slowing down organizing efforts on the ground. Though, honestly, I’m 99% sure there’s already a 3rd party social media app they’re using - you don’t hear anybody whining about Discord for organizing and yet…

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

To be honest, I'd wonder if this would reduce mental illness.

We know that people are really, dangerously, addicted to Twitter. We also know that Twitter is explicitly addictive by design. By reducing the number of tweets visible to users, it reduces the amount of repetitive, short-burst, dopamine injections that people see that get them addicted in the first place.

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– IlhansBrother 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Thats an interesting idea. Does the AI censorship industry really depend on twitter?

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– Assassin47 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Not censorship as much as embedding up-to-the-minute "fact checks" into GPT language models so it can give a smug reply about misinformation when someone naively asks it about a trending topic. You can then feed this data into search results to manipulate news articles and then wikipedia further down the chain.

Marketing corporations are also constantly pulling data for semantic analysis. Some of those corporations could be intelligence agency franchises. Real-time is not super critical here, but it's still valuable.

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– TomSeeSaw 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

How much do you want to bet that the kind folks at Palantir are continuing to guzzle the data?

I'm sure the paypal friends club continues to pay dividends for the government.

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