There was no reduction in mortality below 50, and an increase in mortality if you narrow it down to the under 35. That was with the initial two injections. The boosters kept killing more people.
The younger, the higher the increased mortality.
Oh and that was for short term effects. Remember than the more injections people got, the more often they also got infected with SARS-2, because the injections fuck-up the immune system.
The damage keeps piling-on with every booster, but the benefits are short lasting and require boosters every 20 weeks otherwise it drops into negative efficacy.
Somewhat like forcefully stuffing your immune system with cocaine. Look at how hyper it got! Ignore the people suddenly dying, and keep sniffing another line of cocaine to stay high as fuck untill you get the suddenlies too.
That could be because it's notable if someone under 35 drops dead / has heart troubles. How many older people suffered similarly which was then mis-attributed to their old age?
the benefits are short lasting and require boosters every 20 weeks otherwise it drops into negative efficacy.
At this point there was probably zero net benefit- there appeared to be a benefit because they excluded anyone who got infected for 2 weeks after the jab.
I can, however, provide indirect evidence in the form of more than doubling of sudden deaths in Germany, which coincide with the anti-covid injections, not with covid itself :
I can, however, provide indirect evidence in the form of more than doubling of sudden deaths in Germany, which coincide with the anti-covid injections, not with covid itself :
I'm not sure of this source. It links to a blog which then does not provide precise sourcing for its claims. And a near-tripling of several death categories just does not pass the smell test for me. It's guillotine-level of deaths, I don't think even the servile Germans would tolerate that.
If true, this would be very strong evidence. Not so for the 'sudden deaths' that people keep posting everywhere, one of whom died before there was such a thing as a coronavirus.
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if a Democrat really did tell him that he save 100 million lives.
He was told that 20 million Americans would be dead by December of 2020, by his own staff, who were informed by the same person who's "model" said that 1 million would die in the UK by Dec. 2020.
I don't think that many would have died if all the governments did was freeze all air travel and put strict border controls. Everything they did from lockdowns, ventilators to vaccines probably killed WAY more people who would've been alive today.
Nothing will stop an airborne respiratory illness short of draconian quarantine practices for a huge swath of people early in the stages of infection. That probably still wouldn't work as these spread so fast.
The only protection is a good immune system and lots of us.
I don't think it would have mattered. The first case was in Washington state in December of 2019. I was getting fucking nervous in February, and it felt like everyone was ignoring a major crisis. The media only seemed to pick up that there would be problems by April/May. After that first 14 day period of lockdown, they would have seen new cases in every county in the US, and that would have meant the disease was endemic by the time they reacted at all. There was no chance.
The ventilators probably killed even more people than the vaccines TBH. Then the lockdowns, then the vaccines. The masks didn't kill people, but it did make them retarded.
The buck stops with Trump. He was the POTUS not the medical experts. If he wants to absolved of guilt, he needs to admit that he was fooled by the "experts" and that these vaxxes are not what he was promised.
He is way too stubborn to admit he ever made ANY mistakes.
Trump is a dangerous mixture of arrogance and incompetence.
"Frankly, I'm not convinced that there's only one true philosoraptors. There's gotta be better philosoraptors out there. The raptors aren't sending there best."
You are certainly persuading me to lean towards staying home if this arrogant blowhard ever becomes the nominee again.
I want to avoid a Biden re-election at all costs but you Trump simps clearly don't care about winning with how much you refuse to stop sucking off the one man who is despised by more than half the nation and cannot win a general against Biden.
I would not say that the people who predicted that the vaccine would kill 90% or that Macron did not actually take it are 'critical thinkers' either. They are critical about claims that they don't like, and credulous when it's claims that they do like.
You keep focusing on his comments about the vaccine like he approved ANY of the mandates.
The Vaccine was necessary for a tiny percentage of the population where it legitimately did save lives. The problem was 99% of people did NOT NEED IT. Biden is the one who forced it onto the 99%.
Creating the vaccine wasn't a bad thing, buying millions of doses and leaning on every Government to cave in was the evil aspect.
It's like blaming Oppenheimer for someone choosing to use the nuclear bomb.
The mental gymnastics you are making to defend Trump's mistakes on the vax are insane.
As the POTUS who pushed Operation Warpspeed, he is ultimately responsible for not allowing the manufacturers to be sued for any adverse reactions of the vax and for stupidly expediting a vaccine development process which for good reason takes years to complete for long term safety testing reasons.
Trump undermines every one of us who still refuses to take the shit vax to this day by making these retarded claims of it saved 100 million lives.
When he continues to say these shit vaccines are amazing, he only gives the authoritarian left more rope to hang around the necks of his own unvaxxed base and push mandates upon all of us again.
Trump could just easily shut up about this issue but he won't because he is a narcissist who refuses to admit that he ever made a mistake in his life.
As the POTUS who pushed Operation Warpspeed, he is ultimately responsible for not allowing the manufacturers to be sued for any adverse reactions of the vax and for stupidly expediting a vaccine development process which for good reason takes years to complete for long term safety testing reasons.
Trump is responsible for legislation passed years before he took office? That's absurd.
Trump undermines every one of us who still refuses to take the shit vax to this day by making these retarded claims of it saved 100 million lives.
Trump is a POLITICIAN. He can't piss off the pharma industry or they'll spend literally billions of dollars to fuck him over even worse then they are attacking him now. I don't think you understand that he can't burn every single bridge right before a Presidential run.
You are demanding completely unrealistic things to happen.
Trump could just easily shut up about this issue but he won't because he is a narcissist who refuses to admit that he ever made a mistake in his life.
Wait I thought you wanted him to speak up about it and throw all of his science advisors under the bus publicly? Because that'll really help him recruit new allies for his campaign!
Your points are all naive unfortunately, you need to mature and understand context instead of blaming Trump for everything like CNN. Politics is a complicated area because you need to understand cause AND effect of each decision.
So you want Trump to completely destroy his presidential run and cause most of his allies to leave his side to avoid the blowback...simply because that is the 'right' thing to do?
Shit man pass me some of what you are smoking because that is ludicrous. He's handling things fine regarding the vaccine rollout, we can't expect him to do more then he is simply because of his exposure and amount he has to lose.
Sometimes you have to realize context and how it works in regards to politics. The best choice isn't always the blunt truth, that is how our political system is designed.
I said he could choose to not say anything about the vaxxes. It is the neutral option that he refuses to take.
How would that destroy his campaign?
His entire base hates the COVID vaccines. His most loyal supporters have not taken these shit vaccines.
Sad to see you twist yourself into pretzels to paint every mistake Trump makes as just a brilliant strategic consideration.
You make it seem like Trump is now so diplomatic with his words and is not being inflammatory at all.
Trump has been attacking most of his own cabinet picks and even attacking Kaylee McEnany. He clearly doesn't care about running a winnable campaign if he is even attacking the best press secretary he ever had.
I don't expect Trump to have the balls to go full RFK Jr.
Trump has neither the integrity nor the balls to be that bold. He is a coward who will sell his own base down the river in his doomed quest to become President again
His entire base hates the COVID vaccines. His most loyal supporters have not taken these shit vaccines.
Alright I've found your misconception. This is not even close to the case, in fact attacking the vaccines would destroy his most loyal supporters...the elderly middle america.
It is political suicide to tell 60% of the country that they are stupid to take the vaccine created under Trump. A small minority of people (although growing) understand just how damaging the shots were.
The vast majority of Republicans don't know, and Trump attacking it would push many of them out of his side.
Truth is that they use those words because it's completely arbitrary: any vaccine is safe and effective by sufficiently low standards, and even a near-perfect vaccine will not be so by sufficiently high standards.
You're trying so hard to avoid saying the simple truth that these jabs are basically trash that kills people and maims many more under the guise of "vaccination".
Trump then pointed to a “very smart” “Democrat friend” who supported Trump’s fast-tracking of the COVID-19 vaccines via Operation Warp Speed.
“He said you may have saved in the world, throughout the world, 100 million people, and you never talk about it,” he said. “I said, I really don’t want to talk about it because, as a Republican, it’s not a great thing to talk about.”
“He said you may have saved in the world, throughout the world, 100 million people, and you never talk about it,” he said. “I said, I really don’t want to talk about it because, as a Republican, it’s not a great thing to talk about.”
It's your typical Trumpism, and your typical anti-Trump response.
"People tell me I landed on the moon! I say, 'You're kidding'. They say, 'If you didn't land on the moon, you should!' "
"DRUMPF SAYS HE LANDED ON MOON?!! CLEARLY HE'S TOO UNWELL FOR PRESIDENTIAL SERVICE."
Your moon example is asinine and a completely false comparison.
I always see you come running to defend all of Trump's mistakes
How do we know this so called Democrat friend of Trump even exists?
This is Trump's usual tactic of saying "many people say" to launder his opinions that he is afraid of saying.
Trump could have easily completely shut up about this issue but he REFUSES to do it.
Anyone who says the vaccine saved 100 million lives needs to be kicked in the nuts 100 million times.
You wonder why I will never vote for Trump in a primary? This is why. If God forbid he is the nominee again, I am very tempted to just stay home at this point. Trump just refuses to learn from any of his mistakes.
People tell me all the time that my moon examples are great. They tell me that they're really the best examples. All the time! Even in my dreams people come to me and tell me, "Your moon examples are the greatest, Mr. President" and I say 'Woah. I don't know if they're really the best.' and they say, 'No, sir. They really are the greatest.' Can you believe that? The Lamestream media will tell you that the DEEP STATE has "ECHK-SPURTS" that say that my moon examples aren't any good. But they're not any good, are they folks? No. No good. NO GOOD MSM, that's what they tell me. I was walking down the street and people told me that the NO GOOD MSM was at it again. They tell me this all the time. A dog came up to me and told me, "MSM's at it again! But don't stop with the moon examples, sir." And I said, "Oh my god a talking dog!" But I won't stop fighting. Can't stop fighting. Can't stop won't stop.
I always see you come running to defend all of Trump's mistakes
This was no mistake. You're just upset that non-Trump people tried to force the vaccine on you and others who didn't want it.
Anyone who says the vaccine saved 100 million lives needs to be kicked in the nuts 100 million times.
This was not the first day you figured out that Trump loves to brag and exaggerate.
You wonder why I will never vote for Trump in a primary? This is why. If God forbid he is the nominee again, I am very tempted to just stay home at this point.
And you have the temerity to be critical of people who hold the equally retarded position of Trump or bust?
I explained my perspective in an comment above but I will say it again for you.
Trump undermines every one of us who still refuses to take the shit vax to this day by making these retarded claims of it saved 100 million lives.
When he continues to say these shit vaccines are amazing, he only gives the authoritarian left more rope to hang around the necks of his own unvaxxed base and push mandates upon all of us again.
Trump could just easily shut up about this issue but he won't because he is a narcissist who refuses to admit that he ever made a mistake in his life.
I despise the Trump or bust crowd, if God forbid he becomes the nominee, I am certainly tempted to give them a taste of their own medicine for being servile cucks who feel the need to constantly defend every single one of Trump's mistakes and constantly push this incompetent old man as the only choice.
To be clear Trump still won't win a general election again if he had my vote and he still won't win again if he didn't have my vote.
This is a moot point if Trump becomes the nominee again.
Trump is just a playboy vying for power and popularity at best. At worst he's controlled opposition. I lean towards the first but who knows.
Regardless his insanity on this issue, one that is undeniably damaging, lost my support. It's his Maga movement that has basically constrained the right wing behind his big umbrella movement of based tranny-pedes, anti racists, and faggots.
Trump undermines every one of us who still refuses to take the shit vax to this day by making these retarded claims of it saved 100 million lives.
Why? No one has cared about the vaccine for over a year now.
he only gives the authoritarian left more rope to hang around the necks of his own unvaxxed base and push mandates upon all of us again.
Mandates are never coming back. At least, not for COVID. If there's a completely different disease, maybe, but then that has nothing to do with Trump's comment.
I despise the Trump or bust crowd, if God forbid he becomes the nominee, I am certainly tempted to give them a taste of their own medicine
You 'despise' them but are tempted to act in the same way?
for being servile cucks who feel the need to constantly defend every single one of Trump's mistakes and constantly push this incompetent old man as the only choice.
It's got nothing to do with servility. There is a very small number of complete retards (like the imp), the rest of the people have very good reasons to back Trump: a better foreign policy, burned bridges with the establishment, not letting political indictments decide the GOP nominee, and Trump's possible 3rd party run.
To be clear Trump still won't win a general election again if he had my vote and he still won't win again if he didn't have my vote.
That's just your talking point. There is no reason to believe that you know whether or not Trump will win a general election.
Calling me "butthurt" is not going to make the majority of the country who hates him change their minds about him in 2024.
He has accrued much more baggage since 2020 and he has alienated even more people since then.
Trump's path to 270 electoral votes in 2024 is non-existent. He cannot win AZ, GA, WI, PA and MI because even center right voters in those states hate him. The independents in those states may dislike Biden but they certainly prefer him over Trump whom they hate.
COVID authoritarianism still persists in the U.S. it is crucial to push back against their narrative and not affirm it like Trump constantly does.
Ehh. Apparently he didn't say it, but he said someone else said it saved 100 million people. It's shitty reporting, but I don't know if it qualifies as true disinformation.
I will probably vote for whichever wins, but they are both not ideal. I appreciate that he is more skeptical about vaccines than Trump, but remember that DeSantis got vaccinated and has plenty of other issues.
I keep pointing this out to Trumpers, but he has never reversed back on the vaccines. I know die hard MAGA trumpers and they just refuse to notice this.
There was no reduction in mortality below 50, and an increase in mortality if you narrow it down to the under 35. That was with the initial two injections. The boosters kept killing more people.
The younger, the higher the increased mortality.
Oh and that was for short term effects. Remember than the more injections people got, the more often they also got infected with SARS-2, because the injections fuck-up the immune system.
The damage keeps piling-on with every booster, but the benefits are short lasting and require boosters every 20 weeks otherwise it drops into negative efficacy.
Somewhat like forcefully stuffing your immune system with cocaine. Look at how hyper it got! Ignore the people suddenly dying, and keep sniffing another line of cocaine to stay high as fuck untill you get the suddenlies too.
That could be because it's notable if someone under 35 drops dead / has heart troubles. How many older people suffered similarly which was then mis-attributed to their old age?
At this point there was probably zero net benefit- there appeared to be a benefit because they excluded anyone who got infected for 2 weeks after the jab.
How many confirmed kills does the booster have?
I don't have an answer to that.
I can, however, provide indirect evidence in the form of more than doubling of sudden deaths in Germany, which coincide with the anti-covid injections, not with covid itself :
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/12/13/sudden-deaths-explode-in-germany-after-vaccine-rollout-new-insurance-data-show/
I'm not sure of this source. It links to a blog which then does not provide precise sourcing for its claims. And a near-tripling of several death categories just does not pass the smell test for me. It's guillotine-level of deaths, I don't think even the servile Germans would tolerate that.
If true, this would be very strong evidence. Not so for the 'sudden deaths' that people keep posting everywhere, one of whom died before there was such a thing as a coronavirus.
https://correlation-canada.org/research/
The only good thing about the vaccine is I know who I should be making allies with as those that didn't take it usually have good critical thinking.
Prefer we didn't have to medically harm millions for that information though...
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if a Democrat really did tell him that he save 100 million lives.
He was told that 20 million Americans would be dead by December of 2020, by his own staff, who were informed by the same person who's "model" said that 1 million would die in the UK by Dec. 2020.
I don't think that many would have died if all the governments did was freeze all air travel and put strict border controls. Everything they did from lockdowns, ventilators to vaccines probably killed WAY more people who would've been alive today.
Nothing will stop an airborne respiratory illness short of draconian quarantine practices for a huge swath of people early in the stages of infection. That probably still wouldn't work as these spread so fast.
The only protection is a good immune system and lots of us.
I don't think it would have mattered. The first case was in Washington state in December of 2019. I was getting fucking nervous in February, and it felt like everyone was ignoring a major crisis. The media only seemed to pick up that there would be problems by April/May. After that first 14 day period of lockdown, they would have seen new cases in every county in the US, and that would have meant the disease was endemic by the time they reacted at all. There was no chance.
The ventilators probably killed even more people than the vaccines TBH. Then the lockdowns, then the vaccines. The masks didn't kill people, but it did make them retarded.
The buck stops with Trump. He was the POTUS not the medical experts. If he wants to absolved of guilt, he needs to admit that he was fooled by the "experts" and that these vaxxes are not what he was promised.
He is way too stubborn to admit he ever made ANY mistakes.
Trump is a dangerous mixture of arrogance and incompetence.
"Frankly, I'm not convinced that there's only one true philosoraptors. There's gotta be better philosoraptors out there. The raptors aren't sending there best."
You are certainly persuading me to lean towards staying home if this arrogant blowhard ever becomes the nominee again.
I want to avoid a Biden re-election at all costs but you Trump simps clearly don't care about winning with how much you refuse to stop sucking off the one man who is despised by more than half the nation and cannot win a general against Biden.
I'm not interested in your shilling at this point. I'm just making Trump jokes.
I would not say that the people who predicted that the vaccine would kill 90% or that Macron did not actually take it are 'critical thinkers' either. They are critical about claims that they don't like, and credulous when it's claims that they do like.
He refuses to accept reality that these vaccines are not safe or effective.
How many times does the base need to teach him this lesson?
You keep focusing on his comments about the vaccine like he approved ANY of the mandates.
The Vaccine was necessary for a tiny percentage of the population where it legitimately did save lives. The problem was 99% of people did NOT NEED IT. Biden is the one who forced it onto the 99%.
Creating the vaccine wasn't a bad thing, buying millions of doses and leaning on every Government to cave in was the evil aspect.
It's like blaming Oppenheimer for someone choosing to use the nuclear bomb.
The mental gymnastics you are making to defend Trump's mistakes on the vax are insane.
As the POTUS who pushed Operation Warpspeed, he is ultimately responsible for not allowing the manufacturers to be sued for any adverse reactions of the vax and for stupidly expediting a vaccine development process which for good reason takes years to complete for long term safety testing reasons.
Trump undermines every one of us who still refuses to take the shit vax to this day by making these retarded claims of it saved 100 million lives.
When he continues to say these shit vaccines are amazing, he only gives the authoritarian left more rope to hang around the necks of his own unvaxxed base and push mandates upon all of us again.
Trump could just easily shut up about this issue but he won't because he is a narcissist who refuses to admit that he ever made a mistake in his life.
Trump is responsible for legislation passed years before he took office? That's absurd.
Trump is a POLITICIAN. He can't piss off the pharma industry or they'll spend literally billions of dollars to fuck him over even worse then they are attacking him now. I don't think you understand that he can't burn every single bridge right before a Presidential run.
You are demanding completely unrealistic things to happen.
Wait I thought you wanted him to speak up about it and throw all of his science advisors under the bus publicly? Because that'll really help him recruit new allies for his campaign!
Your points are all naive unfortunately, you need to mature and understand context instead of blaming Trump for everything like CNN. Politics is a complicated area because you need to understand cause AND effect of each decision.
We don't live in a vacuum.
What is next? You are going to say he needs to push vaccine mandates because big pharma is too strong and he needs their support to win again?
Trump has three options on how to handle the COVID vaccines.
Trump can be bold and stand up against big pharma and call out the adverse reactions that people are suffering as a result of this shitty vax.
He can be a scared bitch and not say anything.
Say they saved 100 million lives and shill for the vaxxes.
He chooses to shill for the vaxxes that his own base hates. He has three options and he picks the worst option out of the three.
Many of you are making excuses for Trump that you would not make for ANY other politician.
This is what I mean by saying some of you are caught up in a cult of personality around this man.
There is not a line he can cross or anything he can do that would make you want to stop supporting him.
This is the problem.
So you want Trump to completely destroy his presidential run and cause most of his allies to leave his side to avoid the blowback...simply because that is the 'right' thing to do?
Shit man pass me some of what you are smoking because that is ludicrous. He's handling things fine regarding the vaccine rollout, we can't expect him to do more then he is simply because of his exposure and amount he has to lose.
Sometimes you have to realize context and how it works in regards to politics. The best choice isn't always the blunt truth, that is how our political system is designed.
That is why Democrats can abuse it so easily.
I said he could choose to not say anything about the vaxxes. It is the neutral option that he refuses to take.
How would that destroy his campaign?
His entire base hates the COVID vaccines. His most loyal supporters have not taken these shit vaccines.
Sad to see you twist yourself into pretzels to paint every mistake Trump makes as just a brilliant strategic consideration.
You make it seem like Trump is now so diplomatic with his words and is not being inflammatory at all.
Trump has been attacking most of his own cabinet picks and even attacking Kaylee McEnany. He clearly doesn't care about running a winnable campaign if he is even attacking the best press secretary he ever had.
I don't expect Trump to have the balls to go full RFK Jr.
Trump has neither the integrity nor the balls to be that bold. He is a coward who will sell his own base down the river in his doomed quest to become President again
Alright I've found your misconception. This is not even close to the case, in fact attacking the vaccines would destroy his most loyal supporters...the elderly middle america.
It is political suicide to tell 60% of the country that they are stupid to take the vaccine created under Trump. A small minority of people (although growing) understand just how damaging the shots were.
The vast majority of Republicans don't know, and Trump attacking it would push many of them out of his side.
It doesn't save lives lol. You're more likely to get sick and die the more these you get.
How do we know that? Apart from being told they saved a few elderly people? It's not like there was a useful controlgroup to back these claims up.
What makes a vaccine 'safe' or 'effective'?
Truth is that they use those words because it's completely arbitrary: any vaccine is safe and effective by sufficiently low standards, and even a near-perfect vaccine will not be so by sufficiently high standards.
You're trying so hard to avoid saying the simple truth that these jabs are basically trash that kills people and maims many more under the guise of "vaccination".
Yeah, that's not "the truth", that's just some claim you make.
You gotta stop lying.
Even in your own source:
It's your typical Trumpism, and your typical anti-Trump response.
"People tell me I landed on the moon! I say, 'You're kidding'. They say, 'If you didn't land on the moon, you should!' "
"DRUMPF SAYS HE LANDED ON MOON?!! CLEARLY HE'S TOO UNWELL FOR PRESIDENTIAL SERVICE."
Your moon example is asinine and a completely false comparison.
I always see you come running to defend all of Trump's mistakes
How do we know this so called Democrat friend of Trump even exists?
This is Trump's usual tactic of saying "many people say" to launder his opinions that he is afraid of saying.
Trump could have easily completely shut up about this issue but he REFUSES to do it.
Anyone who says the vaccine saved 100 million lives needs to be kicked in the nuts 100 million times.
You wonder why I will never vote for Trump in a primary? This is why. If God forbid he is the nominee again, I am very tempted to just stay home at this point. Trump just refuses to learn from any of his mistakes.
People tell me all the time that my moon examples are great. They tell me that they're really the best examples. All the time! Even in my dreams people come to me and tell me, "Your moon examples are the greatest, Mr. President" and I say 'Woah. I don't know if they're really the best.' and they say, 'No, sir. They really are the greatest.' Can you believe that? The Lamestream media will tell you that the DEEP STATE has "ECHK-SPURTS" that say that my moon examples aren't any good. But they're not any good, are they folks? No. No good. NO GOOD MSM, that's what they tell me. I was walking down the street and people told me that the NO GOOD MSM was at it again. They tell me this all the time. A dog came up to me and told me, "MSM's at it again! But don't stop with the moon examples, sir." And I said, "Oh my god a talking dog!" But I won't stop fighting. Can't stop fighting. Can't stop won't stop.
Congrats on nailing the speech patterns of an arrogant incompetent 77 year old man who should have just retired for the good of the country!
OneTrueShillosoraptor, am I right folks?
I have never been paid anything to express my opinions.
You are a Trumpist who got butthurt that I criticized your idol and immediately you jumped to the accusing me of being a shill.
As your idol would say, "What a sad loser you are!"
This was no mistake. You're just upset that non-Trump people tried to force the vaccine on you and others who didn't want it.
This was not the first day you figured out that Trump loves to brag and exaggerate.
And you have the temerity to be critical of people who hold the equally retarded position of Trump or bust?
I explained my perspective in an comment above but I will say it again for you.
Trump undermines every one of us who still refuses to take the shit vax to this day by making these retarded claims of it saved 100 million lives.
When he continues to say these shit vaccines are amazing, he only gives the authoritarian left more rope to hang around the necks of his own unvaxxed base and push mandates upon all of us again.
Trump could just easily shut up about this issue but he won't because he is a narcissist who refuses to admit that he ever made a mistake in his life.
I despise the Trump or bust crowd, if God forbid he becomes the nominee, I am certainly tempted to give them a taste of their own medicine for being servile cucks who feel the need to constantly defend every single one of Trump's mistakes and constantly push this incompetent old man as the only choice.
To be clear Trump still won't win a general election again if he had my vote and he still won't win again if he didn't have my vote.
This is a moot point if Trump becomes the nominee again.
Trump is just a playboy vying for power and popularity at best. At worst he's controlled opposition. I lean towards the first but who knows.
Regardless his insanity on this issue, one that is undeniably damaging, lost my support. It's his Maga movement that has basically constrained the right wing behind his big umbrella movement of based tranny-pedes, anti racists, and faggots.
Why? No one has cared about the vaccine for over a year now.
Mandates are never coming back. At least, not for COVID. If there's a completely different disease, maybe, but then that has nothing to do with Trump's comment.
You 'despise' them but are tempted to act in the same way?
It's got nothing to do with servility. There is a very small number of complete retards (like the imp), the rest of the people have very good reasons to back Trump: a better foreign policy, burned bridges with the establishment, not letting political indictments decide the GOP nominee, and Trump's possible 3rd party run.
That's just your talking point. There is no reason to believe that you know whether or not Trump will win a general election.
Colleges are still pushing COVID vaccine mandates and so are many employers in the health care and tech industry.
There are so many good jobs that I am not able to even apply for because of this shit.
This is THE issue that matters to me because this biomedical authoritarianism is still not over.
Trump just needs to STFU about these shitty vaxxes and he can't even do that.
I don't expect him to go full RFK Jr. He has neither the intelligence nor the balls for that.
We will potentially see in Nov next year how right I am if god forbid Trump becomes the nominee again.
To anyone capable of basic logical reasoning it is clear that Trump is incapable of winning a general election again.
lol, are you serious? What a joke.
But rest assured that they would do that regardless of what Trump says.
Good. Why would you even want to work for an employer who thinks he has the right to dictate to you that you should have vaccines.
No, you're just butthurt.
Whats the joke about Vax requirements? I'm missing the humor here. Are you denying they exist or claiming they are not being enforced?
Calling me "butthurt" is not going to make the majority of the country who hates him change their minds about him in 2024.
He has accrued much more baggage since 2020 and he has alienated even more people since then.
Trump's path to 270 electoral votes in 2024 is non-existent. He cannot win AZ, GA, WI, PA and MI because even center right voters in those states hate him. The independents in those states may dislike Biden but they certainly prefer him over Trump whom they hate.
COVID authoritarianism still persists in the U.S. it is crucial to push back against their narrative and not affirm it like Trump constantly does.
This seems like Trump starting to climb down from the precipice he put himself on.
I hope so. I like his bravado, but he does lean over into arrogance on occasion to protect his brand name, and that can damage his image as well.
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Ehh. Apparently he didn't say it, but he said someone else said it saved 100 million people. It's shitty reporting, but I don't know if it qualifies as true disinformation.
God I hate that this retard is the best we can hope for right now
He is certainly not the best we can hope for.
I will take Ron DeSantis anyday over this shit
I will probably vote for whichever wins, but they are both not ideal. I appreciate that he is more skeptical about vaccines than Trump, but remember that DeSantis got vaccinated and has plenty of other issues.
Holy fuck, boys, the rage in this thread. Take a chill pill, homies.
I keep pointing this out to Trumpers, but he has never reversed back on the vaccines. I know die hard MAGA trumpers and they just refuse to notice this.
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