It’s definitely a combination of modern services, government subsidies, the disintegration of community, and the toxic nature of modern gender relations. There’s no church or common ethnicity holding people together. You don’t need work because it’s so easy to find handouts. Cheap entertainment, ubiquitous pornography, food delivered to your door. Low quality, entitled women. Why leave your ultimate comfort zone?
Muslims won’t succumb to this. Neither will Jews or Hispanics. Ultimately, this is a white affliction. Because whites are denied the community and solidarity that can inoculate us against these pitfalls.
What do you expect, there's been 2 years of training thanks to lockdowns, in some cities especially blue cities it's dangerous to go outside and if not physically dangerous you got social media addicted zombies going round with their phones in front ready to ruin someone's life for attention.
Shit's fucked up outside unless you live in a remote area...or just not in the west or China.
On the increasingly large numbers of men dropping out of society in the US and elsewhere; signals of the greater decay happening in social bonds and its affect on people; the health effects of isolation; attempts at reversing these trends.
Some choice quotes:
seven million prime working-age men (those between the ages of 25 and 54) are jobless and have no intention of finding work.
To compound matters, 50% of the seven million consume copious amounts of prescription drugs and/or weed, and two-thirds live in a household that receives at least one disability payment every month. Very few of these men are rolling in riches. Instead, they appear to have just enough to get by: just enough money, just enough drugs, and just enough distractions (porn, video games, etc.). They are in many ways happily sedated, comfortably numb.
As a global phenomenon, this epidemic of loneliness demands organized, mass action to reintegrate people into social life . . . Otherwise the accelerating atomization of society will result in a collapse of all bonds and lead us into a new, frightening post-political era.
A summation of information some here probably know about already, but worth looking at regardless. No solution appears to be on the horizon at this time.
I don't mind it. I don't think I'm rotting away. It would be sad, maybe, if the world was bright and cherry and women weren't psychotic feminist freaks and inflation wasn't rising at ridiculous pace and if there was any benefit at all to me going beyond the bare minimum.
Happily sedated is perhaps a bit of an overstatement for many. More-so there's just so few opportunities that are worth anyone's time with how jacked everything is.
Especially with what is essentially a society that has stacked and piled so many laws and rules for just about everything that it's more difficult coming up with anything that IS allowed than isn't. And then what isn't codified in law or through rules is applied through manipulation and social pressures by gaslighting zealots, the media, and outright mobs.
Who WOULD want to engage with the rest of this bullshitty Clownworld?
It's like with marriage. If the benefit of participating doesn't outweigh the risks, why would people bother?
And for men (especially young men and especially on the bottom of the diversity-stack) not participating is quite the deal these days, with all the money our governments spends on people that don't want to work.
Going outside and actually doing something, on the other hand, can get you into trouble really fast.
No one, not conservative nor liberals will do anything to address this. All they can do is insult and shame men more.
The only way to win is not to play at all and the ultimate victory is when the parasitic society that relies on the blood and sacrifice of men finally collapses.
Fully half of their listed group are drug addicts on welfare. Parasites. In other words, leftists.
The rest, who are the real victims of clown world's nonsense, get lumped in with the chronically worthless and used to add weight for this "muh organized action" argument which no doubt would look like doubling taxes.
It is a good move to isolate yourself from the system but the thing is that these guys are not truly out of the system. They still rely on it to live. Imagine instead if all these men became self sufficient. If you grow your own food, you don't need the system anymore. You might still need the help of your neighbor sometimes but there wouldn't be a need for a centralized machine like we have now. Hence, without a need, the system lose its control and thus its power. I honestly believe that moving towards this form of distributism would solve 90% of all our problems. This is more or less how society used to work after all and it got us this far so it's already proven.
The issue is that not everyone wants to be a farmer obviously and most of these guys just want to jack off, watch tv and game all day. With container farms tech and things like that though, you don't need to spend all your day farming/hunting/etc. You regain some of your time to do those other things so it might be more appealing to the average person. It's not too different than having a job except now you work directly for yourself. The issue remain to get the money for the initial investment though... Honestly, I'm preparing to do this myself and if it works out, I'll start a charity or something to help others do the same. Or idk, at least I'll try to share the process to make it as easy as possible
I'm a single guy and not dating and haven't been for a very long time. Albeit if I'm honest going way back to pre-teens I never saw myself as a family guy. I've always been just myself. There was never some moment where I saw a bright light and trumpets sounded and I was a mgtow. I have always just sort of gone my own way.
I did always refuse to become a hermit though. It's not easy by any means. You have to try things you haven't before. I've done this tons of times, some things stick others don't. You have to get past the people (mostly women) who think you are weird or creepy for not living to their expectations. As you get older you have to accept that everything you do isn't going to be "adult" things where you hang out at a nice restaurant or stay up late at a sports bar or whatever. I never cared for drinking and club culture so that wasn't too tough. Find like a fun guy thing to do one night or weekend? Guess what, your friend is going to want to bring their kid along, because they have one. It's time to learn to put up with the kid, or even better be nice to the kid and actually like them. It's not always that bad. In the end though, it's hurdle after hurdle, but I'm not a weird hermit because I tried. I don't have a ton of friends, but I have a handful of long-time friends that have survived quite a bit and I don't expect to go anywhere. More recently I've tried to pick through my family and build up some of that as well, with about the same result really.
You have to understand these people will do everything, literally everything, in their power to avoid blaming themselves.
Just like the mRNA shots people don't like being told that they are stupid and made a mistake. They would rather own the mistake and pretend it never happened then admit fault.
The problem in our society is a lack of personal responsibility, something men have become comfortable with but women still refuse to do. It is a worldwide issue and won't improve.
It’s definitely a combination of modern services, government subsidies, the disintegration of community, and the toxic nature of modern gender relations. There’s no church or common ethnicity holding people together. You don’t need work because it’s so easy to find handouts. Cheap entertainment, ubiquitous pornography, food delivered to your door. Low quality, entitled women. Why leave your ultimate comfort zone?
Muslims won’t succumb to this. Neither will Jews or Hispanics. Ultimately, this is a white affliction. Because whites are denied the community and solidarity that can inoculate us against these pitfalls.
What do you expect, there's been 2 years of training thanks to lockdowns, in some cities especially blue cities it's dangerous to go outside and if not physically dangerous you got social media addicted zombies going round with their phones in front ready to ruin someone's life for attention.
Shit's fucked up outside unless you live in a remote area...or just not in the west or China.
This trend was progressing well before lockdowns and even social media.
On the increasingly large numbers of men dropping out of society in the US and elsewhere; signals of the greater decay happening in social bonds and its affect on people; the health effects of isolation; attempts at reversing these trends.
Some choice quotes:
A summation of information some here probably know about already, but worth looking at regardless. No solution appears to be on the horizon at this time.
It's quite sad how most of these men are just rotting away, no family, legacy or future.
I don't mind it. I don't think I'm rotting away. It would be sad, maybe, if the world was bright and cherry and women weren't psychotic feminist freaks and inflation wasn't rising at ridiculous pace and if there was any benefit at all to me going beyond the bare minimum.
Well decent girls are hard to find and probably not legal so men decides to step out of the rigged game.
Happily sedated is perhaps a bit of an overstatement for many. More-so there's just so few opportunities that are worth anyone's time with how jacked everything is.
Especially with what is essentially a society that has stacked and piled so many laws and rules for just about everything that it's more difficult coming up with anything that IS allowed than isn't. And then what isn't codified in law or through rules is applied through manipulation and social pressures by gaslighting zealots, the media, and outright mobs.
Who WOULD want to engage with the rest of this bullshitty Clownworld?
It's like with marriage. If the benefit of participating doesn't outweigh the risks, why would people bother?
And for men (especially young men and especially on the bottom of the diversity-stack) not participating is quite the deal these days, with all the money our governments spends on people that don't want to work.
Going outside and actually doing something, on the other hand, can get you into trouble really fast.
No one, not conservative nor liberals will do anything to address this. All they can do is insult and shame men more.
The only way to win is not to play at all and the ultimate victory is when the parasitic society that relies on the blood and sacrifice of men finally collapses.
Well now this is some deceptive horseshit.
Fully half of their listed group are drug addicts on welfare. Parasites. In other words, leftists.
The rest, who are the real victims of clown world's nonsense, get lumped in with the chronically worthless and used to add weight for this "muh organized action" argument which no doubt would look like doubling taxes.
God, I hate the media.
It is a good move to isolate yourself from the system but the thing is that these guys are not truly out of the system. They still rely on it to live. Imagine instead if all these men became self sufficient. If you grow your own food, you don't need the system anymore. You might still need the help of your neighbor sometimes but there wouldn't be a need for a centralized machine like we have now. Hence, without a need, the system lose its control and thus its power. I honestly believe that moving towards this form of distributism would solve 90% of all our problems. This is more or less how society used to work after all and it got us this far so it's already proven.
The issue is that not everyone wants to be a farmer obviously and most of these guys just want to jack off, watch tv and game all day. With container farms tech and things like that though, you don't need to spend all your day farming/hunting/etc. You regain some of your time to do those other things so it might be more appealing to the average person. It's not too different than having a job except now you work directly for yourself. The issue remain to get the money for the initial investment though... Honestly, I'm preparing to do this myself and if it works out, I'll start a charity or something to help others do the same. Or idk, at least I'll try to share the process to make it as easy as possible
Well maybe if the media hadn't spent the last few years telling everyone how dangerous and horrible it was to venture outside...
I'm a single guy and not dating and haven't been for a very long time. Albeit if I'm honest going way back to pre-teens I never saw myself as a family guy. I've always been just myself. There was never some moment where I saw a bright light and trumpets sounded and I was a mgtow. I have always just sort of gone my own way.
I did always refuse to become a hermit though. It's not easy by any means. You have to try things you haven't before. I've done this tons of times, some things stick others don't. You have to get past the people (mostly women) who think you are weird or creepy for not living to their expectations. As you get older you have to accept that everything you do isn't going to be "adult" things where you hang out at a nice restaurant or stay up late at a sports bar or whatever. I never cared for drinking and club culture so that wasn't too tough. Find like a fun guy thing to do one night or weekend? Guess what, your friend is going to want to bring their kid along, because they have one. It's time to learn to put up with the kid, or even better be nice to the kid and actually like them. It's not always that bad. In the end though, it's hurdle after hurdle, but I'm not a weird hermit because I tried. I don't have a ton of friends, but I have a handful of long-time friends that have survived quite a bit and I don't expect to go anywhere. More recently I've tried to pick through my family and build up some of that as well, with about the same result really.
gee, I wonder what could have brought this on? I, fucking, WONDER!?
You have to understand these people will do everything, literally everything, in their power to avoid blaming themselves.
Just like the mRNA shots people don't like being told that they are stupid and made a mistake. They would rather own the mistake and pretend it never happened then admit fault.
The problem in our society is a lack of personal responsibility, something men have become comfortable with but women still refuse to do. It is a worldwide issue and won't improve.