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Being antisocial & playing video games was the correct answer (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by dekachin 3 years ago by dekachin +38 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 42 points 3 years ago +42 / -0

The difference between social media and gaming is the same difference between how women interact to how men interact:

Social media: put up a fake persona, pretend to be nice or virtuous when behind the facade you are cursing everyone and in your own pit of narcissism

Gaming: "can you get one kill you fucking idiot!?"

"Fuck you, you're aim is worse than Michael J Fox!"

"Screw you harder than I did your mom earlier!"

Hour later

"So, wanna help me farm for this new item?"

"Sure mate let me put a good music track to grind to"

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– Indipendepede 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

It's that old phrase again: Men say awful things to each other and don't mean it; women say nice things to each other and don't mean it.

It's no wonder women spiral into depression so easily when their self-esteem is built on lies and hiding behind a façade of emotional stability. Even in your example, the guys have a level of authenticity in their interaction that is anathema to the dynamics of social media.

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– Archie78 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I've been in fist fights with blokes one minute, after the fight we're laughing and drinking like we're best mates, bruises, fat lips, cauliflower ears the lot.

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– Indipendepede 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Nothing builds respect quite like getting flattened in an honourable bout of fisticuffs. Nothing builds friendships quite like getting up afterwards and complimenting his martial prowess.

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– undecidedmask 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yep, seen it countless times. Women will have the most toxic friendships possible, while men will insult and harass each other horribly, while being best buds. Truly a paradox lol.

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– alucard13mmfmj 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Unfortunately.. you cant talk shit anymore. Most games will ban you for it. They record both text and voice nowadays.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I think it's more than that. The dynamics of social gaming might be particularly worse than other forms of gaming.

Eve and WoW players are effectively totally dysfunctional because of the obsession of which some of them approach the game. League of Legends players are almost exclusively known for being awful people.

However, none of that can really be said about players of single player games, or games without strong social mechanisms. Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Zelda, Tropico, Factorio, Stardew Valley, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Street Fighter, Minecraft, etc, the audiences for these games are never seen as socially pathological. Some of the twitch shooters like Counter Strike and CoD can get bad, but the biggest problem there is the immaturity of a younger audience; or the grizzled bitterness of an old one.

I think the social component of some games can become pathological because the interactions are not incentivized for amicability (LoL); or are otherwise taken to seriously (Eve). Games without social pressures might be a time sink, but don't make you pathological. Pokemon, despite being around for 2 fucking decades, doesn't seem to generate a lot of pathological behaviors.

I think there does need to be a lot more thought given to how game mechanics cultivate negative or positive social behaviors within a gaming community, and how to build a game around avoiding the negative ones.

Meanwhile, the game mechanics of Social Media are probably the single most addictive and pathological mechanisms that you are going to find. The 2nd worst is Twitter, but the absolute worst is OnlyFans.

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– Eree 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

However, none of that can really be said about players of single player games, or games without strong social mechanisms. Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Zelda, Tropico, Factorio, Stardew Valley, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Street Fighter, Minecraft, etc, the audiences for these games are never seen as socially pathological.

Zelda, Elder Scrolls, Pokemon, Street Fighter and Minecraft audiences "are never seen as socially pathological"? Even the average WoW player is less deranged than many of these, especially Pokemon and Zelda whose core fanbase consists of fat manchildren who send you death threats if you dare criticize their latest reskinned Nintendo garbage for kids.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I have not seen or heard that. Pokemon & Zelda's core fanbase are below the age of 20. Pokemon is particularly younger.

Being useless soycucks makes them less pathological that WoW addicts and LoL players.

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– SoctaticMethod1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That's true from experience, playing a cooperative game like Warframe they tend to be the most friendly and welcoming group barring certain game modes (cough eidolons) because you getting more powerful means the next time they play with you, you both get more rewards.

Though I can't tell because of the time it was released or BECAUSE of the game mechanics but I made a lot of friends online when I played Assassin's Creed Brotherhood multiplayer, mostly because I was VERY good at pretending to be a bot and reading people to kill or escape them. That seemed to get a lot more people to me to try and learn from me or at least beat me at my own game.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That's kind of what I've seen too. Like I said, I think someone should actually take the time to research it.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

I mean families worked for a few but that got trashed thanks to the rest (as why should SHE be happy?!), drugs didn't work, endless sex didn't work, more responsibility like voting made everything worse.

Maybe we should've stayed with the Sean Connery school of dealing with women?

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– almond_activator 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Maybe we should've stayed with the Sean Connery school of dealing with women?

A light, open-hand strike is good for snapping anyone out of hysterics, but women are far, far more likely to fall into them than even the most soy of men.

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– Assassin47 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

endless sex didn't work

Not enough Chads to go around for that, and not every woman is willing to try Tyrones.

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– Adamrises 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

Why do you think gaming is not as linked to some of these negative outcomes?

Might be one of the dumbest questions I've ever seen. Yes why does a random hobby not have the same outcomes as obsessively over indulging in socialization? I wonder how these two things aren't equal!

Even the answer given is retarded. Many games aren't multiplayer in the slightest, thereby have zero of that "interaction." Are those games leading to depression more than a guy spending all day in a CK2 lobby with his friends painting Europe?

Anything to avoid acknowledging that the genders are different. Nope it has to be the "random thing they all for some reason choose along gender lines" causing the difference.

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– Ahaus667 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Gaming at the end of the day revolves around puzzles, strategies, and escapism, it is something you can do with or without others. Social media is just pure operant conditioning under the tyranny of groupthink. This is why gamergate hit so hard, people who despise the groupthink saw the social media mindsets beginning to taint the industry.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Ironic given they just tried to make gaming a mental illness recently

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– Benevolentdictator 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Where's this quote from?

I thought I recognized the name Jean Twenge. I was correct that she co-authored a book that changed my life back in 2009, The Narcissism Epidemic: Living in the Age of Entitlement

I shudder to think how much respect I would lose for her takes if I looked up her opinions in 2023.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

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