I don’t really even understand why Jews fall into this trap. The “anti-racist” SJWs hate the shit out of them. Like, viscerally hate them. I’ve heard one growl at the mention of Jewish people once. Others have pointed out how Jewish people can complain about whiteness “from within” when convenient or claim to be a minority when convenient too. It works both ways, though: the SJWs might tolerate them they way they tolerate Asians when convenient, but will turn on them in an instant when THAT’S convenient. After the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting SJWs put out “What about black shooting victims though?!” articles and said they don’t care because “Jews are like, ‘hyper-white.” Jews are dumb to even fall into the “good whitey who writes books” market, they could write 100 books and they’ll still be targeted. The only question will it be because they’re hyperwhite or because today is a day the SJWs are mad about all those LGBT-friendly oppressed brown liberals they think the Palestinians are.
From what I can tell we are in the middle of a fight between two factions of "elites" of which many but not all are jews.
The zionists want the controlled nations of the west to be relatively strong so those countries can provide "aid" and by sicced on the enemies of israel.
The globalists are communists and want a start-trek style global government and are seeking to destroy the idea of nations and distinct peoples (other israel and jews).
These factions correspond roughly to conservatives/republicans and liberals/democrats. The anti-white agenda is pushed by the globalist side and extremely tentatively resisted by the zionist side.
The Zionist side still has immense currency in white guilt.
Opposition to whiteness is built in to Zionists. Because basically organized white people as such usually heralds bad times for Jews. White-identified people that are confidant aren't as likely to be manipulated by white guilt.
They need it to be nominally-there-is-no-dominant-ethnic-group-but-really-its-jews-lol.
It’s not self-loathing if you’re loathing an identity you can shed at any moment.
Edit: but seriously, fuck this bullshit. You know what actual self-loathing looks like? Modern day white peoples demonstrating literal out-group bias. Jews are only self-deprecating because it is disarming. You see this from manipulative people all the time. I used to do it to gain favor with non-whites. Always the first to laugh at anti-whites jokes, etc. It’s faux self-loathing, and in the case of Jews it is even less genuine because they ultimately belong to the most protected class on the planet. How many of them “loathe” the cesspool of degenerate Hollywood, the Marxist subversion of academia, or the globalist manipulations of Soros and Co.? No, the vaunted Jewish self-loathing takes the form of tiny superficial digs embedded within the most nepotistic, tribalist, self-serving culture in existence.
Jews do not demonstrate self loathing. They demonstrate that they like other Jews. Self loathing is some neurosis they have not an actual aversion to people like themselves.
Rumination is an unfortunate side effect of intelligence.
The more possibilities you can imagine the more stressful it is to make decisions, and the less confidence you will have that your past decisions were the right ones.
For the record I don't believe in an organized global conspiracy. I do believe that many individual actors that are making decisions based on the same parameters can build a large structure that, when viewed from a distance or over a long period of time, looks like it has a complex and deliberate design and came from a conscious architect.
Look up some of the stuff on Jewish intelligence. I'm not saying the narrative is a total myth, but some of the methodology I've seen is actually pretty suspect. Interesting stuff, if nothing else.
One of the things I remember is many of the studies compared young children in special Jewish schools to non-Jews who didn't have that upbringing, and that creates a big disparity that doesn't seem to follow into adulthood, or even later childhood. Very selective sampling can really skew the numbers. So some of the narrative is actually just a snapshot that really just says specific Jewish children are more educated than average.
Wait, so IQ research is virtually nonexistent with the convenient exception of methodologically questionable studies that suggest a “very good reason” for Jewish overrepresentation in virtually every institution in the west? No shway Jose!
Asian IQ is higher in all of the empirical disciplines. Jewish “high IQ” largely takes the form of verbal IQ, which is a politically correct way of saying “we excel at manipulating our fellow man”. Best lawyers, etc. I’m speaking from experience here; when I was tested, I excelled in verbal disciplines as well. I sometimes feel like a whistleblower here.
With respect to nations and civilizations, IQ appears to be a threshold. Your people either have sufficient average IQ to create and maintain a functional civilization (Europe) or they don’t (Africa). If you meet the threshold, collectively, then your prize is a prosperous sustainable autonomous nation state.
You shouldn’t be compelled to cede control of your civilization to imported foreign interests simply because they boast a higher IQ; is it the fate of every successful people on earth to inevitably be ruled by high IQ Asians, right?
Substitute “Jews” for “Asians” and that statement is just as valid. Less relevant, though; Asians haven’t been found out and subsequently ejected over 100 times.
And before anyone argues that higher IQ should reliably decide who controls a nation, with no consideration for demographic ownership, realize that you would also be endorsing total control of humanity by artificial intelligence.
The average isn't as important (except "on average", I guess) as the extreme lows dragging everyone else down and the extreme highs trying to hold things together and build an oasis of civilization. And with enough lows then the highs can't really do anything beyond getting as much build wealth as possible to build little forts for their families. This isn't related to your argument about importing high IQ foreigners. Just an observation.
OK . . . My thinking didn't go that deep . . . I had Woody Allen in mind when I wrote it, but what you say makes sense.
I can't tell you how tired I am of hearing about the "international Jewish banker/Rothschild conspiracy to rule the world," so your last paragraph pretty much expresses what I imagine the reality of the "Jewish Question" to be.
That's a really obtuse sentence, but I hope you get my point.
A lot of dry "history of science" and biographical stuff but the "meat" of the theories is mindblowing. The idea that everything is made up of regular but non-repeating patterns that can't be predicted only iterated through is a concept that totally changed how I looked at the world.
I'm almost with you on the single "organized" global conspiracy, but I don't want to discount the fact the secret societies and cults have been directing events in various nations since the beginning of history. Globalization and instant communication only makes it more likely that various layers of influence networks would form around groups of world elites who share those same "parameters", and attempt to architect things at the ground level, if not at the macro level. It's feels more crazy to believe that world events aren't shaped by 10,000 conspiracies every day. The only thing giving us normal plebs ease of mind on this is realizing that 1) Elite plans usually aren't that effective, nor directly in control 2) There's not a single group guiding everything behind-the-scenes, and 3) The groups that do have high influence are often in conflict with other groups. Influence networks work in two directions.
So for example you don't have the annual WEF meeting headed by Klaus saying "Ok guys, how can we get zem to eat ze bugs by 2030?" You do have misanthropic elites with weird ideological bents at the top levels who think they're saving the planet, combined with others who have been swayed and bought into those ideas to such a degree that they financially benefit, who then arrange private talks and consensus with their colleagues to push small ideas out to the greater WEF membership, which influence politicians to gradually inch policy closer to goals that align with the misanthropes. tl;dr The global population may be like ants acting on instinct and inertia and with no real concerted plan, but there are actors consciously working together (conspiring) to place pheromones in just the right spots to get us to move in the direction they want. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
I do think there's a connection here but, for the sake of fairness, I have to point out that ten is not a large sample size, much less if picked non-randomly by someone who already has an agenda. This proves nothing, and the exact - and I do mean exact - same argument could be used to push any message, true or false.
You could find ten anti-white books by black authors, female authors, trans authors, gay authors, etc.
So, yeah, not even saying there's no truth here, but it's a bad and stilted argument.
The significance is that these authors are speaking from a standpoint of "fellow white people". They aren't "engaging with their positionality" as the gay commies like to say. "As a jew this is why I feel white people <bad>" isn't the message they are sending.
When you criticize methodology like sample size, and don't also include what you believe a would be a reasonable sample size, then that is an attempt to discredit without disproving which is a tactic used to derail discussions. Not saying that is your intent but that is the result.
then that is an attempt to discredit without disproving which is a tactic used to derail discussions.
I clearly said I don't even necessarily disagree with the message, just the framing. Again, it's a bad argument if you could make it fit universally.
Although I also may have overreacted a bit, it's mostly the framing of your title (no offense) that got me, not so much the linked content. The poster is talking specifics and themes, and there being ten books isn't really a core point, and he's not arguing statistics and ratios. I just got that from your title, and reacted to that, perhaps wrongly.
Not saying that is your intent but that is the result.
Well, thanks, because I certainly wasn't trying to derail. I just don't like bad arguments, and I think "These ten Jews I picked have something in common" is an incredibly silly argument. Which, again, isn't even the point of the content, just the title.
So, yeah, not trying to derail or discredit, just point out silliness when I see it.
So this writer picked 10 anti-white books by Jews and then concluded that... all writers were Jews?
In Whiteshift, Jewish researcher Eric Kaufmann explores how the mass demographic replacement of White people will positively shape society. He contends that carefully managing such a dramatic change is crucial, or else the future minority won't be too happy (that's us).
This guy hasn't even read the book. Eric Kaufmann is an anti-woke populist. In fact, this is what he writes in the book this moronic rando makes claims about.
Once the anti-racist taboo over discussing immigration unravels, the main parties must offer a policy on limiting immigration. I would argue they also need a cultural message for the Somewheres, the roughly 50 per cent of ethnic-majority voters who value continuity and security more than change.
I don’t really even understand why Jews fall into this trap. The “anti-racist” SJWs hate the shit out of them. Like, viscerally hate them. I’ve heard one growl at the mention of Jewish people once. Others have pointed out how Jewish people can complain about whiteness “from within” when convenient or claim to be a minority when convenient too. It works both ways, though: the SJWs might tolerate them they way they tolerate Asians when convenient, but will turn on them in an instant when THAT’S convenient. After the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting SJWs put out “What about black shooting victims though?!” articles and said they don’t care because “Jews are like, ‘hyper-white.” Jews are dumb to even fall into the “good whitey who writes books” market, they could write 100 books and they’ll still be targeted. The only question will it be because they’re hyperwhite or because today is a day the SJWs are mad about all those LGBT-friendly oppressed brown liberals they think the Palestinians are.
From what I can tell we are in the middle of a fight between two factions of "elites" of which many but not all are jews.
The zionists want the controlled nations of the west to be relatively strong so those countries can provide "aid" and by sicced on the enemies of israel.
The globalists are communists and want a start-trek style global government and are seeking to destroy the idea of nations and distinct peoples (other israel and jews).
These factions correspond roughly to conservatives/republicans and liberals/democrats. The anti-white agenda is pushed by the globalist side and extremely tentatively resisted by the zionist side.
The Zionist side still has immense currency in white guilt.
Opposition to whiteness is built in to Zionists. Because basically organized white people as such usually heralds bad times for Jews. White-identified people that are confidant aren't as likely to be manipulated by white guilt.
They need it to be nominally-there-is-no-dominant-ethnic-group-but-really-its-jews-lol.
Self-loathing is a jewish specialty, like overbearing mothers and neurosis.
It’s not self-loathing if you’re loathing an identity you can shed at any moment.
Edit: but seriously, fuck this bullshit. You know what actual self-loathing looks like? Modern day white peoples demonstrating literal out-group bias. Jews are only self-deprecating because it is disarming. You see this from manipulative people all the time. I used to do it to gain favor with non-whites. Always the first to laugh at anti-whites jokes, etc. It’s faux self-loathing, and in the case of Jews it is even less genuine because they ultimately belong to the most protected class on the planet. How many of them “loathe” the cesspool of degenerate Hollywood, the Marxist subversion of academia, or the globalist manipulations of Soros and Co.? No, the vaunted Jewish self-loathing takes the form of tiny superficial digs embedded within the most nepotistic, tribalist, self-serving culture in existence.
Yeah, it's not like jews think they are white like us.
They don't loathe themselves, they try to elevate themselves at the expense of other white people.
They're only protected when it suits the political interests of the establishment.
Jews do not demonstrate self loathing. They demonstrate that they like other Jews. Self loathing is some neurosis they have not an actual aversion to people like themselves.
Rumination is an unfortunate side effect of intelligence.
The more possibilities you can imagine the more stressful it is to make decisions, and the less confidence you will have that your past decisions were the right ones.
For the record I don't believe in an organized global conspiracy. I do believe that many individual actors that are making decisions based on the same parameters can build a large structure that, when viewed from a distance or over a long period of time, looks like it has a complex and deliberate design and came from a conscious architect.
Look up some of the stuff on Jewish intelligence. I'm not saying the narrative is a total myth, but some of the methodology I've seen is actually pretty suspect. Interesting stuff, if nothing else.
One of the things I remember is many of the studies compared young children in special Jewish schools to non-Jews who didn't have that upbringing, and that creates a big disparity that doesn't seem to follow into adulthood, or even later childhood. Very selective sampling can really skew the numbers. So some of the narrative is actually just a snapshot that really just says specific Jewish children are more educated than average.
Wait, so IQ research is virtually nonexistent with the convenient exception of methodologically questionable studies that suggest a “very good reason” for Jewish overrepresentation in virtually every institution in the west? No shway Jose!
Asian IQ is higher in all of the empirical disciplines. Jewish “high IQ” largely takes the form of verbal IQ, which is a politically correct way of saying “we excel at manipulating our fellow man”. Best lawyers, etc. I’m speaking from experience here; when I was tested, I excelled in verbal disciplines as well. I sometimes feel like a whistleblower here.
With respect to nations and civilizations, IQ appears to be a threshold. Your people either have sufficient average IQ to create and maintain a functional civilization (Europe) or they don’t (Africa). If you meet the threshold, collectively, then your prize is a prosperous sustainable autonomous nation state.
You shouldn’t be compelled to cede control of your civilization to imported foreign interests simply because they boast a higher IQ; is it the fate of every successful people on earth to inevitably be ruled by high IQ Asians, right?
Substitute “Jews” for “Asians” and that statement is just as valid. Less relevant, though; Asians haven’t been found out and subsequently ejected over 100 times.
And before anyone argues that higher IQ should reliably decide who controls a nation, with no consideration for demographic ownership, realize that you would also be endorsing total control of humanity by artificial intelligence.
The average isn't as important (except "on average", I guess) as the extreme lows dragging everyone else down and the extreme highs trying to hold things together and build an oasis of civilization. And with enough lows then the highs can't really do anything beyond getting as much build wealth as possible to build little forts for their families. This isn't related to your argument about importing high IQ foreigners. Just an observation.
OK . . . My thinking didn't go that deep . . . I had Woody Allen in mind when I wrote it, but what you say makes sense.
I can't tell you how tired I am of hearing about the "international Jewish banker/Rothschild conspiracy to rule the world," so your last paragraph pretty much expresses what I imagine the reality of the "Jewish Question" to be.
That's a really obtuse sentence, but I hope you get my point.
Chaos by James Gleick
A lot of dry "history of science" and biographical stuff but the "meat" of the theories is mindblowing. The idea that everything is made up of regular but non-repeating patterns that can't be predicted only iterated through is a concept that totally changed how I looked at the world.
or if you want a shorter video example:
https://youtu.be/X-iSQQgOd1A
Lucky accidents that occur when you're following the same agenda. Look up "Amalek" sometime.
I'm almost with you on the single "organized" global conspiracy, but I don't want to discount the fact the secret societies and cults have been directing events in various nations since the beginning of history. Globalization and instant communication only makes it more likely that various layers of influence networks would form around groups of world elites who share those same "parameters", and attempt to architect things at the ground level, if not at the macro level. It's feels more crazy to believe that world events aren't shaped by 10,000 conspiracies every day. The only thing giving us normal plebs ease of mind on this is realizing that 1) Elite plans usually aren't that effective, nor directly in control 2) There's not a single group guiding everything behind-the-scenes, and 3) The groups that do have high influence are often in conflict with other groups. Influence networks work in two directions.
So for example you don't have the annual WEF meeting headed by Klaus saying "Ok guys, how can we get zem to eat ze bugs by 2030?" You do have misanthropic elites with weird ideological bents at the top levels who think they're saving the planet, combined with others who have been swayed and bought into those ideas to such a degree that they financially benefit, who then arrange private talks and consensus with their colleagues to push small ideas out to the greater WEF membership, which influence politicians to gradually inch policy closer to goals that align with the misanthropes. tl;dr The global population may be like ants acting on instinct and inertia and with no real concerted plan, but there are actors consciously working together (conspiring) to place pheromones in just the right spots to get us to move in the direction they want. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
I do think there's a connection here but, for the sake of fairness, I have to point out that ten is not a large sample size, much less if picked non-randomly by someone who already has an agenda. This proves nothing, and the exact - and I do mean exact - same argument could be used to push any message, true or false.
You could find ten anti-white books by black authors, female authors, trans authors, gay authors, etc.
So, yeah, not even saying there's no truth here, but it's a bad and stilted argument.
The significance is that these authors are speaking from a standpoint of "fellow white people". They aren't "engaging with their positionality" as the gay commies like to say. "As a jew this is why I feel white people <bad>" isn't the message they are sending.
When you criticize methodology like sample size, and don't also include what you believe a would be a reasonable sample size, then that is an attempt to discredit without disproving which is a tactic used to derail discussions. Not saying that is your intent but that is the result.
I clearly said I don't even necessarily disagree with the message, just the framing. Again, it's a bad argument if you could make it fit universally.
Although I also may have overreacted a bit, it's mostly the framing of your title (no offense) that got me, not so much the linked content. The poster is talking specifics and themes, and there being ten books isn't really a core point, and he's not arguing statistics and ratios. I just got that from your title, and reacted to that, perhaps wrongly.
Well, thanks, because I certainly wasn't trying to derail. I just don't like bad arguments, and I think "These ten Jews I picked have something in common" is an incredibly silly argument. Which, again, isn't even the point of the content, just the title.
So, yeah, not trying to derail or discredit, just point out silliness when I see it.
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Are they? So you have read the books, as opposed to the Twitter rando you quoted?
So this writer picked 10 anti-white books by Jews and then concluded that... all writers were Jews?
This guy hasn't even read the book. Eric Kaufmann is an anti-woke populist. In fact, this is what he writes in the book this moronic rando makes claims about.
So the exact opposite of what he claims.
That was my criticism too but, to be fair, it's OP's bad title, not an argument of the rando.
But, yeah, "these ten Jews I picked out have something in common, oy vey!" is pretty silly.
People are bringing external information into this discussion. Such as a lifetime of looking at anti-white titles.
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