Everyone hates this shit, except the companies pushing it, and people who are so brainwashed that they will happily regurgitate whatever they think makes them sound "up to date" (I've met a few today, actually. People who actually think Grammarly is good, for example)...
It's really quite scary that this has been pushed so hard, and people just lapped it up, because "Ooh, intelligent software!"
Just fucking check my spelling and grammar. Do not tell me how to be "more politically correct" or how to "avoid potential offensive language" you duplicitous cunts...
Every commercial I've seen for Grammarly, their "corrections" make the discourse worse. And those are their commercial-grade best possible corrections cultured to look good in ads.
It's a "tool" for the lazy, the stupid, and the gullible. Best case scenario: this and other tools like it are used as training wheels and abandoned when someone gets his writing chops down.
Seriously, it always seemed like it aimed at at the nonexistent intersection of people who flunked out of high school English, and people who write business copy.
Holy fuck, I don't even like seeing squiggly red lines under misspelled or made-up words. I'll fucking run a spell check when I'm done, you bastard. And now they want to police what I type?
Holy shit, you should see the stuff doctors would say to each other in correspondence behind their more troublesome patients' backs. Used WordPerfect 5.1 back then. I considered my job to be to type exactly what I heard, without censorship. Even when the doctor was joking about sending copies to Dr. Jack Kevorkian (re: big fat hypochondriacs that plagued every doctor in the city, there were two or three who basically did rounds.)
Now I see people panicking about losing their jobs to ChatGPT and similar shit. All I can say is, I got no sympathy when speech to text came for MY job.
Notice how there's no option to disable the "inclusivity" or the geopolitical one, which I'm sure is just about not pissing off Winnie the Pooh. Word has gone to shit anyway. I have the 2016 student version and the grammar checker gives me a ridiculous number of false positives. The 2010 version was never this bad. All the pajeets they hired fucked it up.
I've been using open office since high school, mostly because there was a stint where our high school didn't want to pay for the Microsoft license. It does everything I wanted to do with zero hiccups.
Usage suggestions are the easiest to ignore. Only the stupid the lazy or the ideologically captured will pay any attention to Word's usage recommendations. Same with grammar handbooks and their usage guides.
We've been hip to the academy's attempts to brainwash people via language prescriptions for decades. Those who aren't coerced to adopt them with threats of bad grades or bureaucratic retaliation are free to, for example, use masculine pronouns generically, make pronouns agree in number with antecedents, use "fireman" for "firefighter" and all that other horseshit.
I actually thought every single recommendation was good... Even the "inclusivity" one, despite the terrible category naming scheme, had a good suggestion.
My issue is when it corrects "style", which this one didn't based on the examples, though I imagine it would. Suggestions like "go wild" instead of "go bananas" are borderline. Without understanding the context, such a suggestion might be worthless and just becomes clutter. It bugs me when I have the right word/sentence structure and it suggests to me something worse. In reality, instead of popping up as "underlining the sentence", it should be its own separate function similar to specifically running a thesaurus on everything.
If you've seen the "inclusivity" or "sensitive geopolitical references" functions in action, on your own work, then trust me, they're not good...
As I've mentioned before, I have an organisational account where you can't disable these "corrections". It gets incredibly annoying, because of course, it doesn't understand context.
Other discussion of this has already mentioned how it wants you to use "assigned male at birth" or similar, instead of how you would normally refer to biological sex, so I assure you, this is not as... Benevolent as your impression seems to be, from the video...
I agree on the second paragraph. That's the point - you are seeing, with this example, but a small idea of just how bad this is, in practice...
Imagine that, but much more intrusive, wherein references to "fat people", "retardation", "Taiwan is a country" or "that group of men" are explicitly no longer sanctioned by the software you are using, and that information is then conveyed to your workplace...
This really should not be acceptable, in a supposedly (relatively) "free" society.
The professional class is largely idiots playing with other people’s money. They parrot the big tech talking points to their tech illiterate (older) management and everyone pats each other on the back for implementing (big tech talking points).
Honestly, i think all these AI apps are going to be great for kind of forcing people to wake up since orgs around the world will eventually realize they shouldn’t be feeding it all their IP.
Yeah, their understanding of privacy is v weird, to me...
Like they're all super distrustful of each other, but then they're more than willing to give away any and all privacy when it comes to these tech companies and the like...
Somewhere along the way, that became "normalised" - that your classmates/colleagues can't even be trusted for a basic conversation (fair, in some cases, I guess), but tech companies..? Nah, they'll have your back...
Ah social skills... We live in a very strange, increasingly "inhuman and impersonal" time...
I've been listening to normies complain about Libre Office for the last couple of hours, eugh...
It's all "Google, Google, Google, why don't you just use Google Docs?"
Oh, I don't know, maybe because I actually like to work offline? Or maybe because I don't like having my writing censored as I type..?
I mean, come on...
Gmail is already shit enough, on its own.
I'm the same as you, on the laptop I am using right now, lol...
Unfortunately my new one that I am still setting up for everyday use won't let me use older Office versions (I believe), so that is going to be... Awful.
Or even more reasonably asking “why does a for profit, publicly traded company give this out for free? Am I the product” we know how how FOSS are funded like linux distros, libre office, Apache, blender, gimp, etc. through donations, merch, support subscriptions. Google is selling your info. Good enough as any reason to not use their products. And how many different devices are you reasonably working on throughout the day? Word processor files are tiny.
I would also note that Gmail subtly did this. Like, if this change was "announced" anywhere, I didn't actively notice...
It only became obvious in the last few months, while drafting emails, that it was clearly following the same "trend", now...
Because that's how this always goes: sneak the change in, and hope the normies don't pick up on it/notice enough to care, or they just accept it as inevitable... Unfortunately...
I haven't used it for a while, either, but I'm reliably informed it does, now, yes...
Gmail does, now. I would be entirely unsurprised if it does the same...
I guess you could do a "jogger test" with Sheets, to check (which would be... Amusing, if nothing else), but like you say, if they're going to do this anywhere, it will be in the word processor, not so much the spreadsheet app...
Libre Office does everything I want an office suite to do without the cost and censorship of Office.
Do you know if it allows for red-lining? I typically use LO for everything but I'm starting to run into situations (for school and work) that it doesn't seem to have functionality for.
Everyone hates this shit, except the companies pushing it, and people who are so brainwashed that they will happily regurgitate whatever they think makes them sound "up to date" (I've met a few today, actually. People who actually think Grammarly is good, for example)...
It's really quite scary that this has been pushed so hard, and people just lapped it up, because "Ooh, intelligent software!"
Just fucking check my spelling and grammar. Do not tell me how to be "more politically correct" or how to "avoid potential offensive language" you duplicitous cunts...
Every commercial I've seen for Grammarly, their "corrections" make the discourse worse. And those are their commercial-grade best possible corrections cultured to look good in ads.
It's a "tool" for the lazy, the stupid, and the gullible. Best case scenario: this and other tools like it are used as training wheels and abandoned when someone gets his writing chops down.
Seriously, it always seemed like it aimed at at the nonexistent intersection of people who flunked out of high school English, and people who write business copy.
Holy fuck, I don't even like seeing squiggly red lines under misspelled or made-up words. I'll fucking run a spell check when I'm done, you bastard. And now they want to police what I type?
Holy shit, you should see the stuff doctors would say to each other in correspondence behind their more troublesome patients' backs. Used WordPerfect 5.1 back then. I considered my job to be to type exactly what I heard, without censorship. Even when the doctor was joking about sending copies to Dr. Jack Kevorkian (re: big fat hypochondriacs that plagued every doctor in the city, there were two or three who basically did rounds.)
Now I see people panicking about losing their jobs to ChatGPT and similar shit. All I can say is, I got no sympathy when speech to text came for MY job.
Notice how there's no option to disable the "inclusivity" or the geopolitical one, which I'm sure is just about not pissing off Winnie the Pooh. Word has gone to shit anyway. I have the 2016 student version and the grammar checker gives me a ridiculous number of false positives. The 2010 version was never this bad. All the pajeets they hired fucked it up.
You know things are bad when they have to run interference to deny it is happening: https://archive.is/GXIGH
In order to counteract what everyone who has been forced to use these features already knows:
https://archive.is/kAQ63
One of the many reasons I use Apache Open Office
I would avoid OpenOffice at this point, since it barely has any development. But there are alternatives:
LibreOffice (the obvious)
OnlyOffice Desktop (much better MS Office compatibility than OpenOffice/LibreOffice)
Softmaker FreeOffice (the free version of Softmaker Office, with a couple downgrades compared to the paid version)
There is also WPS Office, but it might be not for everyone.
AKA "Failure to suck China's cock re: Taiwan"?
Also (not a stormie, but) cough Israel cough cough cough...
The older version is always better.
If you MUST use office - the one off older DVD license is much more affordable and often massively discounted on Amazon
I've been using open office since high school, mostly because there was a stint where our high school didn't want to pay for the Microsoft license. It does everything I wanted to do with zero hiccups.
Usage suggestions are the easiest to ignore. Only the stupid the lazy or the ideologically captured will pay any attention to Word's usage recommendations. Same with grammar handbooks and their usage guides.
We've been hip to the academy's attempts to brainwash people via language prescriptions for decades. Those who aren't coerced to adopt them with threats of bad grades or bureaucratic retaliation are free to, for example, use masculine pronouns generically, make pronouns agree in number with antecedents, use "fireman" for "firefighter" and all that other horseshit.
This guy is too gay for me to watch this video. 30 seconds is all I can take before I cut my ears off.
I actually thought every single recommendation was good... Even the "inclusivity" one, despite the terrible category naming scheme, had a good suggestion.
My issue is when it corrects "style", which this one didn't based on the examples, though I imagine it would. Suggestions like "go wild" instead of "go bananas" are borderline. Without understanding the context, such a suggestion might be worthless and just becomes clutter. It bugs me when I have the right word/sentence structure and it suggests to me something worse. In reality, instead of popping up as "underlining the sentence", it should be its own separate function similar to specifically running a thesaurus on everything.
If you've seen the "inclusivity" or "sensitive geopolitical references" functions in action, on your own work, then trust me, they're not good...
As I've mentioned before, I have an organisational account where you can't disable these "corrections". It gets incredibly annoying, because of course, it doesn't understand context.
Other discussion of this has already mentioned how it wants you to use "assigned male at birth" or similar, instead of how you would normally refer to biological sex, so I assure you, this is not as... Benevolent as your impression seems to be, from the video...
I agree on the second paragraph. That's the point - you are seeing, with this example, but a small idea of just how bad this is, in practice...
Imagine that, but much more intrusive, wherein references to "fat people", "retardation", "Taiwan is a country" or "that group of men" are explicitly no longer sanctioned by the software you are using, and that information is then conveyed to your workplace...
This really should not be acceptable, in a supposedly (relatively) "free" society.
I still don't know where this comes from, I have Office 365 and the "inclusiveness" tab is not there.
Maybe it's not included on personal copies?
It really is weird how easy it was for Big Tech to get everyone to go along with all of this...
Like, they've barely even had to push this censorship, or everything being cloud-based, and cloud-based only, on the professional class...
It's like they actually want to be turned into chattel. It's amazing.
Especially the Zoomers I have to work with. They literally cannot see anything bad about any of this. Quite incredible to see...
The professional class is largely idiots playing with other people’s money. They parrot the big tech talking points to their tech illiterate (older) management and everyone pats each other on the back for implementing (big tech talking points).
Honestly, i think all these AI apps are going to be great for kind of forcing people to wake up since orgs around the world will eventually realize they shouldn’t be feeding it all their IP.
Yeah, their understanding of privacy is v weird, to me...
Like they're all super distrustful of each other, but then they're more than willing to give away any and all privacy when it comes to these tech companies and the like...
Somewhere along the way, that became "normalised" - that your classmates/colleagues can't even be trusted for a basic conversation (fair, in some cases, I guess), but tech companies..? Nah, they'll have your back...
Ah social skills... We live in a very strange, increasingly "inhuman and impersonal" time...
Zoomers are the "weak men" in the 4-stage cycle.
I've been listening to normies complain about Libre Office for the last couple of hours, eugh...
It's all "Google, Google, Google, why don't you just use Google Docs?"
Oh, I don't know, maybe because I actually like to work offline? Or maybe because I don't like having my writing censored as I type..?
I mean, come on...
Gmail is already shit enough, on its own.
I'm the same as you, on the laptop I am using right now, lol...
Unfortunately my new one that I am still setting up for everyday use won't let me use older Office versions (I believe), so that is going to be... Awful.
Or even more reasonably asking “why does a for profit, publicly traded company give this out for free? Am I the product” we know how how FOSS are funded like linux distros, libre office, Apache, blender, gimp, etc. through donations, merch, support subscriptions. Google is selling your info. Good enough as any reason to not use their products. And how many different devices are you reasonably working on throughout the day? Word processor files are tiny.
Does Docs actually do this? I've had to use a lot of Sheets, but obviously it's a different beast.
I would also note that Gmail subtly did this. Like, if this change was "announced" anywhere, I didn't actively notice...
It only became obvious in the last few months, while drafting emails, that it was clearly following the same "trend", now...
Because that's how this always goes: sneak the change in, and hope the normies don't pick up on it/notice enough to care, or they just accept it as inevitable... Unfortunately...
I haven't used it for a while, either, but I'm reliably informed it does, now, yes...
Gmail does, now. I would be entirely unsurprised if it does the same...
I guess you could do a "jogger test" with Sheets, to check (which would be... Amusing, if nothing else), but like you say, if they're going to do this anywhere, it will be in the word processor, not so much the spreadsheet app...
Gmail literally does, dude.
I used it today and it did this…
And I’ve seen articles about Docs doing the same, now.
Stop running interference, or whatever it is you are trying, here. “Weird ramble” or no…
Try updating the software. It won't work for the really old versions but I was able to get the 2016 version on my current laptop.
https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
cough
https://massgrave.dev/office_c2r_links.html
Do you know if it allows for red-lining? I typically use LO for everything but I'm starting to run into situations (for school and work) that it doesn't seem to have functionality for.
Just wanted to say that Libre Office is phenomenal.