If Asians really are shifting Republican, and not just to slightly less-crazy Democrats (which is what happened in SF), then we will see a big shift in the 2024 Presidential election, though since asians overwhelmingly live in deep blue states, they likely won't shift enough to get the Republican candidate anywhere near 50% regardless. They could swing local elections, though.
Remember when there were all those articles about black people voting Republican in record numbers and it was still over 80% Democrats.
That being said it is a good thing that such reports are reaching the left, the main reason why people are not voting R is not because D is considered good but rather that R are "evil". I've believed that for a long time as well. If voting R is becoming socially acceptable I think a lot of people will start voting R.
If Asians are thorn between DeSantis and Trump then they are morons. Either of those options are good and Asians are not dumb, I don't think the nominee will have much of an impact on how the Asians vote.
Trump really rubs educated suburban voters the wrong way. Most Asians are highly educated when compared to the general populace.
It is not about policy. It is an issue about temperament and general vibes.
Trump gives off massive brash stubbornness and chaos vibes and that is not appealing at all to educated voters. This same set of vibes is somehow appealing to blue-collar voters. A lot of politics is based on emotions and vibes.
Horrifyingly I know people IRL with this exact attitude. "We should burn this fucking country to the ground before we let Trump into office a second time." - Actual quote. Asked him why, and instead of answering he just rolled his eyes and went off on me for being a Trump supporter and "you're smarter than that."
Go look at previous Republican nominee margins in educated suburbs like Tarrant county in Texas and you will learn that Trump performed the worst in educated and previously solid red suburbs of any GOP nominee in the last 30 years.
Calling people pussies doesn't solve this critical problem.
Trump alienates educated voters like no other. He does good with blue collar voters but that alone is not enough to win these days. We sadly need more suburban voters than Trump is capable of securing.
It's not going to happen in Georgia. Their organization is Democrat. Most of the Asian candidates they can vote for are Democrats. And Democrats are winning, anyways, according to official tallies. Having put in that work in the Democrat party, you're not going to see them mass defect. That would be bad realpolitik.
And importantly the black-Asian alliance is already made. The blacks are still in charge, but it must be working for the Asians somehow.
It would be a big mistake to look at parties as ideological enemies. For sure, within the Democratic party there are those working against Asians. That's because it's a tent, to borrow a phrase from Republicans. If you want to play ball you have to join a team, but within those there are all kinds of people working for themselves and their interest groups.
I don't believe shit based on anecdotes.
If Asians really are shifting Republican, and not just to slightly less-crazy Democrats (which is what happened in SF), then we will see a big shift in the 2024 Presidential election, though since asians overwhelmingly live in deep blue states, they likely won't shift enough to get the Republican candidate anywhere near 50% regardless. They could swing local elections, though.
Remember when there were all those articles about black people voting Republican in record numbers and it was still over 80% Democrats.
That being said it is a good thing that such reports are reaching the left, the main reason why people are not voting R is not because D is considered good but rather that R are "evil". I've believed that for a long time as well. If voting R is becoming socially acceptable I think a lot of people will start voting R.
We can get a larger coalition of voters as soon as Trump is not the GOP nominee.
Most Asians have college degrees and they generally think Trump is a lowbrow moron and very unintelligent.
DeSantis would definitely do better with Asians and any educated voters regardless of race.
If Asians are thorn between DeSantis and Trump then they are morons. Either of those options are good and Asians are not dumb, I don't think the nominee will have much of an impact on how the Asians vote.
Trump really rubs educated suburban voters the wrong way. Most Asians are highly educated when compared to the general populace.
It is not about policy. It is an issue about temperament and general vibes.
Trump gives off massive brash stubbornness and chaos vibes and that is not appealing at all to educated voters. This same set of vibes is somehow appealing to blue-collar voters. A lot of politics is based on emotions and vibes.
>vote to destroy the country because you get "bad vibes" from the other guy
Highly educated behavior indeed
COVID really outed your average college grad as a gullible hysteric.
Educated people do generally hate Trump.
It is a reality that hardcore Trump fans here can't seem to accept.
To have the best chances of winning 2024 it is imperative we don't nominate Trump again.
Horrifyingly I know people IRL with this exact attitude. "We should burn this fucking country to the ground before we let Trump into office a second time." - Actual quote. Asked him why, and instead of answering he just rolled his eyes and went off on me for being a Trump supporter and "you're smarter than that."
These people truly exist and there are more of them than anyone would expect.
Some of the hardcore Trump fans on this site are in an absolute echo-chamber in terms of not realizing how much educated voters hate Trump.
It appealed to all my college educated peers who weren't raving lunatic lefties.
Maybe it doesn't appeal to pussies.
Go look at previous Republican nominee margins in educated suburbs like Tarrant county in Texas and you will learn that Trump performed the worst in educated and previously solid red suburbs of any GOP nominee in the last 30 years.
Calling people pussies doesn't solve this critical problem.
Trump alienates educated voters like no other. He does good with blue collar voters but that alone is not enough to win these days. We sadly need more suburban voters than Trump is capable of securing.
Ok dude
Trump got the largest collection of voters, for a Republican, in decades. You're fucking delusional.
Did he manage to secure a second term?
No.
I don't want to hear your coping to avoid the reality of the situation.
He wasn't able to win with incumbency advantage, he has since burned more bridges than ever before.
He would need to get more votes than in 2020 to win in 2024.
Impossible for him to do that.
It's not going to happen in Georgia. Their organization is Democrat. Most of the Asian candidates they can vote for are Democrats. And Democrats are winning, anyways, according to official tallies. Having put in that work in the Democrat party, you're not going to see them mass defect. That would be bad realpolitik.
And importantly the black-Asian alliance is already made. The blacks are still in charge, but it must be working for the Asians somehow.
They also suffer from racism since blacks enjoy beating them in the streets.
Yes but, let's be honest, Asians being Asians means they probably care more about the school thing.
They're probably sick of their friends and relatives getting randomly beat and robbed in the street, only to see the criminals released.
It would be a big mistake to look at parties as ideological enemies. For sure, within the Democratic party there are those working against Asians. That's because it's a tent, to borrow a phrase from Republicans. If you want to play ball you have to join a team, but within those there are all kinds of people working for themselves and their interest groups.