You and I don't agree often, and I laughed for months about how you assumed my wife wasn't real(seriously we still chuckle about it), but you are correct about this.
The largely correct presumption that "successful" women are going to be a bitch, is the hurdle here.
And that's not going to change because the stereotype is absolutely true. Men don't like bitchy women.
Women make bad partner choices, blame the fact the 8 won’t settle for the female 6 that was easy pussy, then claims it’s because “the man wasn’t ready to settle down”. It’s almost like the freedom of choice comes with the responsibility of those choices, despite women’s best efforts to remove them.
No evidence has ever been produced for this. Both men and women are unhappy with the woman earning more.
I know it is circumstantial evidence, but there is this feminist chick, we've been colleagues for over 8 years and we keep in touch, she is single a lot and I asked her what she looks for in a man, she wants someone who is tall and makes more money then her. Another case, a friend of my wife was a department head at a large IT company, good looking, smart and was looking for a relationship, of course she only settled with a millionaire that brought her diamonds on the first date.
If you can get a millionaire who will bring you diamonds on the first date, why would you settle for anything less?
If she can get a guy at that level to commit then she shouldn't settle for less. What's more common is that she gets pumped and dumped by those types of guys and concludes that's she's entitled to commitment from a guy at that level, which isn't how SMV/RMV works. She's free to have those standards of course, but as I've said elsewhere on this thread women tend to be unwilling to accept the likely outcome of maintaining those standards.
A lot of these problems are created by men and their non-existent standards.
Male tolerance of horrible female behavior is part of the problem, yes. But if you believe this why are you constantly shitting on MGTOW? While the motivations for MGTOW guys vary, a common one is low quality women and their shitty behavior. In other words they have standards and they're walking away because women who meet them don't exist in today's culture, even if they don't typically frame it in terms of standards. More men being willing to walk away from shitty deals can only improve the dating market.
In other words they have standards and they're walking away because women who meet them don't exist in today's culture,
This is just the male equivalent of this:
She's free to have those standards of course, but as I've said elsewhere on this thread women tend to be unwilling to accept the likely outcome of maintaining those standards.
In truth, most MGTOW guys are low status men salty about being priced out of the sexual market place and use the "women are shitty" excuse to justify their resentment. Instead they should improve themselves and the female problem mostly solves itself.
If she can get a guy at that level to commit then she shouldn't settle for less. What's more common is that she gets pumped and dumped by those types of guys and concludes that's she's entitled to commitment from a guy at that level, which isn't how SMV/RMV works.
Is this speculation about the mental states of others based on empirical data?
She's free to have those standards of course, but as I've said elsewhere on this thread women tend to be unwilling to accept the likely outcome of maintaining those standards.
That goes without saying. But I do get a sense from some people basically demanding WOMEN SHOULD LOWER THEIR STANDARDS. I'd actually like it if they raised their standards. I see too many fat abominations with decent looking women.
But if you believe this why are you constantly shitting on MGTOW?
Because of that self-important name that they give themselves, claiming they "go their own way" when all they do is whine about women, and because they are not the solution.
In other words they have standards and they're walking away because women who meet them don't exist in today's culture, even if they don't typically frame it in terms of standards
There you have it. I also don't think that such women don't exist.
Men have low standards for sex and high standards for relationships. Too many women don't know the difference between the two. If he'll have sex with you, that doesn't mean that he'll get in a relationship with you.
Retarded logic. A millionaire man can afford to bait his hook with diamonds, and so men in general are to blame for most women abandoning the institution of assortive mating? Be less dumb, Antonio. You’re starting to border on legitimate simpery.
A millionaire man can afford to bait his hook with diamonds, and so men in general are to blame for most women abandoning the institution of assortive mating?
Not sure where you got that, but OK.
You’re starting to border on legitimate simpery.
'Simp' is to the right what 'racist' is to the left. Refute what I say if you don't like it.
Or call me names, but that just shows that you don't have any way to refute it.
Because dumbass women are taught from birth "NEVER SETTLE!" so once the "new car" shine wears off their current paramour, they will start looking for a replacement, while suddenly "noticing" all the small behaviors of which they disapprove.
They should just go for the guys with a mommy fetish. Those types would cling to an older, nurturing woman.
But of course, they don't want that - they'd rather die alone chasing someone that wouldn't give them a second look.
They think their wealth gives them extra power in dating, but it doesn't, because everyone knows a woman's policy with assets is what's yours is hers and what's hers is definitely hers.
As if they'd spend their time actually doing any parenting when they can drop their spawn off at the nearest carer facility 22hrs a day (the maid can take care of them the other 2)
I doubt Imp gives a shit since he avoids women like the plague. As for your larger point about standards: Standards are fine if you're willing to accept staying single if you can't find someone who meets them. The problem is that women aren't fine with that outcome for the most part. So they price themselves out of the market and become bitter old hags writing articles on feminist sites about how men need to "step up" and marry them. In many cases they go sniffing around for an economically successful beta to divorce rape when they finally realize that the Gigachad they feel entitled to won't commit. Even that's not viable for the "career woman" type in the OP because it requires a man who makes significantly more than her, and those men are rare and have much better options. So they blame men, the patriarchy, or whoever else they need to blame to avoid taking responsibility for their bad decisions.
So they price themselves out of the market and become bitter old hags writing articles on feminist sites about how men need to "step up" and marry them.
Yes, that is quite ironic. I think both men and women should raise their standards, so I don't go around saying that it's fine for one side to have standards and not the other side.
divorce rape
Jesus Christ man.
they finally realize that the Gigachad they feel entitled to won't commit
And this is based on what exactly?
Even that's not viable for the "career woman" type in the OP because it requires a man who makes significantly more than her, and those men are rare and have much better options. So they blame men, the patriarchy, or whoever else they need to blame to avoid taking responsibility for their bad decisions.
No, I claim that every woman on earth should be assumed bad, but that shouldn't stretch to your family members for fairly obvious reasons.
Not really, they wouldn't meet my standards or likely anyone else here. Although if I had access to their wealth, maybe I'd take a shot. It'd be some kind of great character arc for me to take a woman to the cleaners and use the re-appropriated money to build my movement.
No evidence has ever been produced for this. Both men and women are unhappy with the woman earning more.
Men don't mind that a woman is "high-achieving", what they mind is the stuck up bitch attitude that comes along with it.
You and I don't agree often, and I laughed for months about how you assumed my wife wasn't real(seriously we still chuckle about it), but you are correct about this.
The largely correct presumption that "successful" women are going to be a bitch, is the hurdle here.
And that's not going to change because the stereotype is absolutely true. Men don't like bitchy women.
Women make bad partner choices, blame the fact the 8 won’t settle for the female 6 that was easy pussy, then claims it’s because “the man wasn’t ready to settle down”. It’s almost like the freedom of choice comes with the responsibility of those choices, despite women’s best efforts to remove them.
I know it is circumstantial evidence, but there is this feminist chick, we've been colleagues for over 8 years and we keep in touch, she is single a lot and I asked her what she looks for in a man, she wants someone who is tall and makes more money then her. Another case, a friend of my wife was a department head at a large IT company, good looking, smart and was looking for a relationship, of course she only settled with a millionaire that brought her diamonds on the first date.
If you can get a millionaire who will bring you diamonds on the first date, why would you settle for anything less?
A lot of these problems are created by men and their non-existent standards.
If she can get a guy at that level to commit then she shouldn't settle for less. What's more common is that she gets pumped and dumped by those types of guys and concludes that's she's entitled to commitment from a guy at that level, which isn't how SMV/RMV works. She's free to have those standards of course, but as I've said elsewhere on this thread women tend to be unwilling to accept the likely outcome of maintaining those standards.
Male tolerance of horrible female behavior is part of the problem, yes. But if you believe this why are you constantly shitting on MGTOW? While the motivations for MGTOW guys vary, a common one is low quality women and their shitty behavior. In other words they have standards and they're walking away because women who meet them don't exist in today's culture, even if they don't typically frame it in terms of standards. More men being willing to walk away from shitty deals can only improve the dating market.
This is just the male equivalent of this:
In truth, most MGTOW guys are low status men salty about being priced out of the sexual market place and use the "women are shitty" excuse to justify their resentment. Instead they should improve themselves and the female problem mostly solves itself.
Is this speculation about the mental states of others based on empirical data?
That goes without saying. But I do get a sense from some people basically demanding WOMEN SHOULD LOWER THEIR STANDARDS. I'd actually like it if they raised their standards. I see too many fat abominations with decent looking women.
Because of that self-important name that they give themselves, claiming they "go their own way" when all they do is whine about women, and because they are not the solution.
There you have it. I also don't think that such women don't exist.
Men have low standards for sex and high standards for relationships. Too many women don't know the difference between the two. If he'll have sex with you, that doesn't mean that he'll get in a relationship with you.
Retarded logic. A millionaire man can afford to bait his hook with diamonds, and so men in general are to blame for most women abandoning the institution of assortive mating? Be less dumb, Antonio. You’re starting to border on legitimate simpery.
Not sure where you got that, but OK.
'Simp' is to the right what 'racist' is to the left. Refute what I say if you don't like it.
Or call me names, but that just shows that you don't have any way to refute it.
Because dumbass women are taught from birth "NEVER SETTLE!" so once the "new car" shine wears off their current paramour, they will start looking for a replacement, while suddenly "noticing" all the small behaviors of which they disapprove.
Still men want women that are equal or less while women want men that are equal or more.
If fat, balding, unemployed losers had a shot with supermodels, they'd go for it.
They should just go for the guys with a mommy fetish. Those types would cling to an older, nurturing woman.
But of course, they don't want that - they'd rather die alone chasing someone that wouldn't give them a second look.
They think their wealth gives them extra power in dating, but it doesn't, because everyone knows a woman's policy with assets is what's yours is hers and what's hers is definitely hers.
Maybe, but these "boss girls" are anything but nurturing. That's a big part of their problem to begin with.
Can you imagine those psychopaths raising a kid?
I have to assume that they mellow slightly to become parents, even if that's likely untrue.
As if they'd spend their time actually doing any parenting when they can drop their spawn off at the nearest carer facility 22hrs a day (the maid can take care of them the other 2)
Don't you claim that every woman on planet earth is bad except for your mother?
So? Are you mad that they have standards?
I doubt Imp gives a shit since he avoids women like the plague. As for your larger point about standards: Standards are fine if you're willing to accept staying single if you can't find someone who meets them. The problem is that women aren't fine with that outcome for the most part. So they price themselves out of the market and become bitter old hags writing articles on feminist sites about how men need to "step up" and marry them. In many cases they go sniffing around for an economically successful beta to divorce rape when they finally realize that the Gigachad they feel entitled to won't commit. Even that's not viable for the "career woman" type in the OP because it requires a man who makes significantly more than her, and those men are rare and have much better options. So they blame men, the patriarchy, or whoever else they need to blame to avoid taking responsibility for their bad decisions.
Yes, that is quite ironic. I think both men and women should raise their standards, so I don't go around saying that it's fine for one side to have standards and not the other side.
Jesus Christ man.
And this is based on what exactly?
And then we laugh in their face.
No, I claim that every woman on earth should be assumed bad, but that shouldn't stretch to your family members for fairly obvious reasons.
Not really, they wouldn't meet my standards or likely anyone else here. Although if I had access to their wealth, maybe I'd take a shot. It'd be some kind of great character arc for me to take a woman to the cleaners and use the re-appropriated money to build my movement.
As I always say, it's not even that you're wrong about women, but you are wrong to limit your logic to women.
What are those obvious reasons?
Just buy 7 minutes of airtime, since you've assured us that you'd get 80% of people to hate women if you got it.