The cowardly police force who did jack shit in Uvalde are now claiming the shooter had a "battle rifle," and the libs can't decide what retarded angle to take. They seem split between a few choices. Ironically, "ACAB" is the least objectionable when it comes to gun rights.
The other options are "hahaha, myth of good guy with gun busted," which ignores that at least these cops were bastards, and my favorite "hahaha, and they said there was no such thing as a battle rifle!" which ignores that...well, it ignores a fuckton.
There is a battle rifle. But the shooter didn't have one. The cops are just absolute retards. Everyone is spinning up over a comment by, and giving credence to, the people who fucked up in every way imaginable.
For a few examples:
"AR-15s" is trending on Twitter. Always a good time.
My favorite Reddit comments are the idiots saying they know a lot about guns, but all of them get it wrong. Calling M16s battle rifles. Talking about 5.56 vs 9mm penetration while ignoring tumbling. Acting like anyone ever claimed that there was no such thing as a battle rifle. The whole thing is amazing. The biggest mistake aside from their general ignorance, is taking the lying Uvalde cops at their word about 'battle rifles' and armor piercing capabilities, or that the existence of rifle could sensibly result in the tactical holdoff of a freaking army of (allegedly) trained law enforcement officers.
Here's a good one:
The gunnit line for years has been "AR-15 isn't an assault rifle, it isn't a military weapon, it's chambered for the same rounds as a handgun, it's a peashooter, it's harmless" apparently they don't believe that bullshit themselves and boy howdy am I not surprised.
For the first part, it's not an assault rifle, it's not military, and I've never heard the other load of nonsense. And then they finish by, once again, giving credence to a bunch of losers who stood around while kids were murdered. Yeah, I'll take their opinion on anything with a grain of salt.
Basically, Uvalde cops are shit, anti-gunners know they're shit, but will still believe their lies wholesale if it means they can hate on guns. Disgusting. And stupid, very stupid.
One more, here's a tweet:
A) GunShineState sounds badass.
B) Define fascist, you retard.
C) The shit you claim they're banning...that's not happening.
D) Again...define fascist, you utter moron.
the "book ban" is communist propaganda. no books have been banned. just taxpayer dollars may not be used to support pedophile groomers.
"And here's why that's a problem" - Leftists, who definitely aren't pedophile groomers.
Hell, you can still buy them at your local Barnes & Noble. They even gave the "banned" books their own endcap: all four of them.
And one more.
Because it's not an anti-gun party until Diane Feinstein weighs in.
Who, once again, didn't do shit (except stop parents and officers from trying to help), and whose opinion is absolutely worthless. Anything they say is just an excuse.
"Military-style" and "assault weapon" are both useless terms made up by people who want to violate our rights. And, no, they weren't designed to pierce body armor. That's more about the ammo than the weapon anyway. Penetration was an aspect of the design of the cartridge, but they're not specifically armor piercing. They do a better job than some slower and heavier bullets, or smaller bullets, but they're not made for piercing. Actually the opposite, since they're made for bouncing or tumbling, as well as fragmenting. There's a reason why standard 5.56 ammo falls into the lowest rating of rifle-rated armor plates.
Hey, if it keeps more fuckwits out of florida, by all means keep that up.
We need to stop arguing semantics and definitions against these people. For one they are blatantly dishonest about it so you can't change their mind and two these weapons were originally intended to be legal under the constitution. If you believe that we should be able to own military weapons in the first place then their argument is bunk.
just put it this way...
can you ban black people?
can you ban jews?
can you require a license or permit or tax for being black or jewish?
well anyone supporting any of this shit for guns is supporting exactly that. equal protection and firearm self defense are both fundamental rights. anyone supporting licensing and taxes and background checks for guns, is supporting all of the same against black people and jews.
rub their face in it. gun control is racist and antisemitic. it will break their fucking brains.
Absolutely true, agreed on all counts.
That said, arguing semantics is fun if nothing else, especially when they misuse terms so dang badly. You're right that it's not the most constructive angle of attack though.
There was a hero that did go in: Jacob Albarado, an off-duty Border Patrol agent who borrowed his barber's shotgun, and he had to sneak in through a window because he saw the fuckwits blocking the doors.
It's real action movie shit, but since it makes the government look bad, don't expect anyone to make it.
Edit: Added the hero's name. He deserves that much, at least.
I recall a concealed-carrying parent that tried to rush in, but I don't think the cops arrested him, just restrained him. The details from that goatfuck is hazy, sorry.
Still waiting for a journalist to prove that the "gun show loophole" is real lol
The "gun show loophole" is just a term they made up to get the useful idiots to support the ban of private sales.
Remember that journo who went out to buy a gun to prove how easy it is to get a gun only to be rejected?
Not surprised in the slightest. You can't lump people together like that. Some Brits are against guns, and most of the government certainly is, but there are also plenty of pro-gun Brits. Just like with Australians or New Zealanders or Germans (okay, probably not Germans...joking, mostly), or anyone else who has been disarmed by their rulers.
Yup. It only takes a tiny bit of research to be more knowledgeable than the anti-gun side, and to realize that everything they say is absolute bull.
How are they not all in prison getting gaped more than a 60 year old pornstar by now? Seriously, this is the level of fuck up even gang members would want to do reprisals on with guards turning a blind eye too. There's being bad at your job and willfully being so much of a coward you would let children die in room next to you as you are sanitising your hands in the hallway adjacent.
Law enforcement has no legal obligation to protect people, even children.
Fuck 'obligation to protect people' , you have a gun, a nutjob is going after kids, who doesn't at least try to shoot him to stop his rampage!?
There's kids the same age as the ones murdered that had more balls than these 'officers of the law' with a gun
Cowards with badges.
Look man, it takes years for a cop's pension to become fully vested. How is he supposed to enjoy retirement if he's dead? Please understand.
While reading this I was watching the local news. Downtown Orlando is angry that there are shootings and that they need to have a curfew to stop them.
The police have a kicks for guns and gas for guns promotion running right now. Yes, nice sneakers for guns.
Meanwhile, where I live, we have to tell the neighbors to stop shooting past a certain hour because it wakes us up.
They nailed the group committing most of the crime though
Also much harder to commit violence while worried about creasing shoes.
I like when pro gun groups go to gun buyback programs and set up a competing program that pays more. It's a win win. The person giving up the gun gets paid more and the gun gets a new owner instead of being destroyed by the state. Of course it allows for niggers to dispose of murder weapons no questions asked, but that's the fault of the retards implementing the buyback programs and it would have happened anyway.
I used to do homework assignments for guns. So, I fully understand.
My favorite is when Bubba makes fully functional guns out of Home Depot supplies and sells them to the police for $50 each.
To be fair, anyone who takes that deal probably shouldn't have guns.
Agreed.
based
This is one of those clear cut cases of "How do you know you're the bad guy?" "You're defending Uvalde Police."
Meanwhile CONservatives still blabber about constitutional rights like it's 1776 while these subhumans would wipe their asses with your amendments.
Debating gun control is simultaneously amusing and depressing. Depressing because, as you say, they're emotionally wrapped up, and can't be reached logically, so you'll never have a meaningful discussion. Best you can hope for is to convince a few undecided people watching the discussion, but you're still just talking to a brick wall, which is pretty frustrating.
Amusing because anti-gunners are some of the most ignorant people around, so "winning" arguments against them is easy and hilarious. It just doesn't matter, because the two debaters are playing with different rules. Still funny, though.
For what its worth 20 years ago I was that annoying twat who was 100% pro gun control, but have since done a complete 180. The reasoning that finally got to me was realising that a society works much better when people are encouraged to take responsibility for their own safety and of their community, so why then should law abiding citizens be denied access to the most effective tool for self defense? Also the lie that Australia is completely gun free yet there are guns everywhere you look: they are just being held by cops.
this.
make sure that they understand... confiscation will require use of force, and if tyrants are declaring that society is going that far, everyone from politicians to cops to supporters of gun confiscation will all be hunted for sport.
private firearm ownership in the US is bigger than all militaries on the planet combined.
There are more effective tactics.
"I agree. If a man is trying to rape a woman she shouldn't have access to a gun to defend herself. What if she hurt him?"
Take some indefensible stance about a realistic scenario. Checkmate. Either they realize their stance is retarded and needs to be backpedaled, or they stick to their guns (no pun intended) and announce to everyone they are immoral rapist enablers.
I use a similar tactic with abortion debates. It's hilarious and pisses off lefties. Ask me how!