9 David Klepper / AP: "Pro-Moscow voices tried to steer Ohio train disaster debate" (archive.is) posted 3 days ago by AntonioOfVenice 3 days ago by AntonioOfVenice +12 / -3 22 comments share 22 comments share save hide report block hide replies
Since 2016 it's been 'RUSSIA, RUSSIA RUSSIA!' as much as 'TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP!'
It took less than a month for me to naturally assume that whenever I heard this, it was a self admission that the party claiming this fucked up unless there was hard evidence to prove otherwise.
Bill Kristol supported Trump until it turned out that he did not have as much inveterate hatred of Russia as Kristol demanded. I'm not sure which tail is wagging which dog.
But the neocon’s pathological hatred of Russia is definitely not about ethnic vengeance.
Is that the working theory around here? To me it seems pretty apparent that its because Russia doesn't play ball with their globohomo bullshit. Now, that might be in order to create the only somewhat better reality of a dipolar world with two "semi-globohomo" systems, but it is still enough to enrage the elites of the west who want total control and total dominance.
Also not to be underestimated is the whole military industrial complex factor. So many neocons and neolibs benefit from war in general.
It makes little sense, but then again, little of the Stormfag claims do.
sure, people only cared about the literal poison cloud because the internet spetznaz told them to.
Who is Felix Kartte?
And the organization?
Literally funded by the crooks at Fidelity. Luminate was founded by Pierre Omidyar, a scumbag billionaire.
The propagandists at AP blindly echo the propaganda of this organization, while merely describing it as "a London-based nonprofit that studies social media’s impact on democracy".
Why must propaganda always be "spewed" to these morons?
I have a file of sorts on that name. Hold on.
Found it :
He was identified as a major backer of the anti-Elon movement
Provided funding for the infamous Facebook "whistle-blower" who said they were not doing enough to fight "misogyny"
Another asshole "journalist" shilling for centralized information control.
The only reason the Democrats hate Russia is because they blamed Putin for "stealing" the election for Trump in 2016 as a cope.
Hilarious how Putin's half assed attempt to manipulate US politics ended up being the primary cause the US gave tens of billions to help Ukraine kick his ass in 2022.
Hell, if Russia had supported Hillary instead of Trump, maybe Biden would have stayed neutral and he would have won his war.
Democrats hate Russia because it is white and Christian. We know this because democrats accuse conservatives of defending Russia because it is white and Christian.
Not really so, in fact if you look at the Obama administration under McFaul they actually loved Russia. Honestly all of this can be traced back to the huckster McFaul's totally failed "Russian Reset". Even the videos of him pushing the big goofy reset button have been mysteriously scrubbed from youtube. Most all our current issues with Russia can be traced back to this so-called "expert" who totally trashed the relative calm we'd had in the preceding decade.
And how can we forget the Obama quip to Romney "The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back"? The repubs could just play that on repeat, but they don't.
I read that they mistranslated Reset into something completely wrong in Russian.
That said, the issue was the Maidan coup.
McFaul can't even speak Russian well despite supposedly being a professor.
I think the US has about as much to do with Maidan as Russia did in our election: which is to say not much. I'm frankly amazed at the duality view of folks here: the government is incompetent but somehow organized a coup with info warfare. My experience with the government is they couldn't organize a coup out of a wet paper bag.
Likely. But the neocons made good use of that.
It did a good deal more damage to your country (at your own hands) than it ever will to Russia.
I don't even want your country to be damaged. I see a lot of good Americans who are fine people. But when there's a rabid dog biting everyone, it has to go. When I see America destroying my country, far more than it is destroying its supposed enemies like Russia and China, I can only cheer for its weakening.
You think the tail wags the dog.
"MUH RUSSHER STOLE THE ELECTION" is the narrative for the dumb people, just like "UKRAINE IS A DEMOCRACY!" The real reason is geopolitics. You know this full well, because you and your puppets in the EU are supporting the genocidal regime in Azerbaijan.
I'm happy with this outcome, btw. A quick victory would not have damaged the corrupt Empire as much as the past year. To name a few: the bankruptcy of sanctions, the coming end of dollar dominance.
I was going to say, Hilldawg was talking about declaring Syria a no-fly zone during the campaign. They accused Trump of being a Russian puppet because he wasn't supporting their warmongering hard enough.
NeoCons are furious at Putin in particular because Putin stopped the financial rape of Russia in the late 1990s at the hands of NeoCon supported oligarchs. NeoCons have long hated Russia in general ever since Stalin ejected NeoCon ideological founder Trotsky from the Soviet Union in the 1920s.
Anyone who says "neolib" = communist
Anyone who says "neocon" = Putin shill
It took something to post a comment crazier than one calling Trotsky a neocon.
I agree. Every single move toward totalitarianism by the DP has been motivated by their loss in 2016, just like the conversion of corporate journalism to pro-regime serial liars was motivated by their clownish imbecility leading up to their apparently fatal loss of face.
A rogue, uncontrollable bull like Trump will not be groomed, and as crazy as he is, Trump's real purpose, whether he's aware of it or not, is to destroy the bureaucratic status quo and keep the deep state in focus, in the light.
I can't imagine the lengths the regime would go to if he's elected again next year.
You stupid fuck. Hillary and Putin are part of the same social circle! Donald was just a fucking donor to her, useful for a minute to help her get her political ambitions until he became a hindrance under Obama during the birther shit.