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David Klepper / AP: "Pro-Moscow voices tried to steer Ohio train disaster debate" (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 2 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +14 / -3
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– dekachin -14 points 2 years ago +5 / -19

The only reason the Democrats hate Russia is because they blamed Putin for "stealing" the election for Trump in 2016 as a cope.

Hilarious how Putin's half assed attempt to manipulate US politics ended up being the primary cause the US gave tens of billions to help Ukraine kick his ass in 2022.

Hell, if Russia had supported Hillary instead of Trump, maybe Biden would have stayed neutral and he would have won his war.

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– current_horror 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Democrats hate Russia because it is white and Christian. We know this because democrats accuse conservatives of defending Russia because it is white and Christian.

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– Slav4U 5 points 2 years ago +6 / -1

Not really so, in fact if you look at the Obama administration under McFaul they actually loved Russia. Honestly all of this can be traced back to the huckster McFaul's totally failed "Russian Reset". Even the videos of him pushing the big goofy reset button have been mysteriously scrubbed from youtube. Most all our current issues with Russia can be traced back to this so-called "expert" who totally trashed the relative calm we'd had in the preceding decade.

And how can we forget the Obama quip to Romney "The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back"? The repubs could just play that on repeat, but they don't.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I read that they mistranslated Reset into something completely wrong in Russian.

That said, the issue was the Maidan coup.

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– Slav4U 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

McFaul can't even speak Russian well despite supposedly being a professor.

I think the US has about as much to do with Maidan as Russia did in our election: which is to say not much. I'm frankly amazed at the duality view of folks here: the government is incompetent but somehow organized a coup with info warfare. My experience with the government is they couldn't organize a coup out of a wet paper bag.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

The only reason the Democrats hate Russia is because they blamed Putin for "stealing" the election for Trump in 2016 as a cope.

Likely. But the neocons made good use of that.

Hilarious how Putin's half assed attempt to manipulate US politics ended up being the primary cause the US gave tens of billions to help Ukraine kick his ass in 2022.

It did a good deal more damage to your country (at your own hands) than it ever will to Russia.

I don't even want your country to be damaged. I see a lot of good Americans who are fine people. But when there's a rabid dog biting everyone, it has to go. When I see America destroying my country, far more than it is destroying its supposed enemies like Russia and China, I can only cheer for its weakening.

Hell, if Russia had supported Hillary instead of Trump, maybe Biden would have stayed neutral and he would have won his war.

You think the tail wags the dog.

"MUH RUSSHER STOLE THE ELECTION" is the narrative for the dumb people, just like "UKRAINE IS A DEMOCRACY!" The real reason is geopolitics. You know this full well, because you and your puppets in the EU are supporting the genocidal regime in Azerbaijan.

I'm happy with this outcome, btw. A quick victory would not have damaged the corrupt Empire as much as the past year. To name a few: the bankruptcy of sanctions, the coming end of dollar dominance.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

The real reason is geopolitics.

I was going to say, Hilldawg was talking about declaring Syria a no-fly zone during the campaign. They accused Trump of being a Russian puppet because he wasn't supporting their warmongering hard enough.

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– OldBullLee 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I agree. Every single move toward totalitarianism by the DP has been motivated by their loss in 2016, just like the conversion of corporate journalism to pro-regime serial liars was motivated by their clownish imbecility leading up to their apparently fatal loss of face.

A rogue, uncontrollable bull like Trump will not be groomed, and as crazy as he is, Trump's real purpose, whether he's aware of it or not, is to destroy the bureaucratic status quo and keep the deep state in focus, in the light.

I can't imagine the lengths the regime would go to if he's elected again next year.

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– GeneralBoobs 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

if Russia had supported Hillary instead of Trump,

You stupid fuck. Hillary and Putin are part of the same social circle! Donald was just a fucking donor to her, useful for a minute to help her get her political ambitions until he became a hindrance under Obama during the birther shit.

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– deleted 7 points 2 years ago +8 / -1
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– dekachin -9 points 2 years ago +2 / -11

Anyone who says "neolib" = communist

Anyone who says "neocon" = Putin shill

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It took something to post a comment crazier than one calling Trotsky a neocon.

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