I would imagine it was rightly seen as a mental issue. Just like today if my brother told me he feels he is a woman id look up a counselor to help him. A real one who accepts reality
In ancient times they would have executed them as sexual deviants. Treating it as a mental issue is pretty new in the scheme of things, and worshipping perverts is even newer. We didn't do things a certain way for thousands of years for no reason.
Some cultures probably just castrated them and sent them back to work or forced them into sex slavery. No need to kill a male whose body is still usable even if their mind is useless.
You're not knowledgeable of ancient societies at all with a comment like that.
The first thing you are doing is assuming that what you think is deviant, was always deviant. Your concept of deviant is basically coming from the Post-Enlightenment Anglosphere. Even though that might be a good thing, it doesn't change that completely different civilizations just have totally incompatible views on deviance.
Meanwhile, Ancient Greece's pederasty was so prevalent, it is likely the very origin for Afghanistan's "Bacha Bazi". The Ottomans were well known for their harems, and also their Jannisaries who were groomed as children. Mohammed married a 9 year old and fucked her when she was 12. Sulla was married, but probably had a gay lover, and Alexander was almost certainly gay himself. Sparta was so god damned gay they endangered their own population growth rate, and created the most infamously resentful women in history. Islam is still littered with homosexual activity that is excused for any plethora of silly rationalizations including (and I've literally heard both of these): "Women are for children; men are for pleasure", and the infamous "Man Love Thursday" where it's okay because the holy day is tomorrow so I guess it doesn't count or something? The term for hermaphrodite originates from Greece (again, seeing a bit of a pattern here), and these types of, well, mutants, were seen as having been touched by deities. They were more oddities than "evil".
Even in Medieval Europe, gays wouldn't have just been executed, they were actually just ostracized to live in the equivalent of a Lepper Colony, because they very likely had an STD already.
There were a few civilizations that kinda did that "gender is just a state of mind bro" shit, but these are the same civilizations that thought slave labor was ok and that gods and whatnot controlled the earth.
To you it's deviant, and to me it's deviant, but I hate to play the cultural relativism card, but back then a lot of fucked up shit we now consider illegal or deviant was 'accepted'.
So yes, this shit existed back then, but that didn't make it ok. Using that fucker's logic, child marriage was also accepted back then, should we allow that too?
Why can't more people do the "You know, back then it did exist, but that doesn't excuse it being allowed now" state of mind. What's it with leftists always trying to asspull-reach their way back a hundred or a thousand years to excuse shit ideology and shit behaviors?
I would imagine it was rightly seen as a mental issue. Just like today if my brother told me he feels he is a woman id look up a counselor to help him. A real one who accepts reality
In ancient times they would have executed them as sexual deviants. Treating it as a mental issue is pretty new in the scheme of things, and worshipping perverts is even newer. We didn't do things a certain way for thousands of years for no reason.
Some cultures probably just castrated them and sent them back to work or forced them into sex slavery. No need to kill a male whose body is still usable even if their mind is useless.
You're not knowledgeable of ancient societies at all with a comment like that.
The first thing you are doing is assuming that what you think is deviant, was always deviant. Your concept of deviant is basically coming from the Post-Enlightenment Anglosphere. Even though that might be a good thing, it doesn't change that completely different civilizations just have totally incompatible views on deviance.
Meanwhile, Ancient Greece's pederasty was so prevalent, it is likely the very origin for Afghanistan's "Bacha Bazi". The Ottomans were well known for their harems, and also their Jannisaries who were groomed as children. Mohammed married a 9 year old and fucked her when she was 12. Sulla was married, but probably had a gay lover, and Alexander was almost certainly gay himself. Sparta was so god damned gay they endangered their own population growth rate, and created the most infamously resentful women in history. Islam is still littered with homosexual activity that is excused for any plethora of silly rationalizations including (and I've literally heard both of these): "Women are for children; men are for pleasure", and the infamous "Man Love Thursday" where it's okay because the holy day is tomorrow so I guess it doesn't count or something? The term for hermaphrodite originates from Greece (again, seeing a bit of a pattern here), and these types of, well, mutants, were seen as having been touched by deities. They were more oddities than "evil".
Even in Medieval Europe, gays wouldn't have just been executed, they were actually just ostracized to live in the equivalent of a Lepper Colony, because they very likely had an STD already.
They have made that illegal in many places.
Well that’s just my wishful thinking.
Well, you are lucky to live where you do, if I remember correctly, because that is one of the saner places.
I haven’t checked closely but I think it is still legal to have non affirming counseling here
There were a few civilizations that kinda did that "gender is just a state of mind bro" shit, but these are the same civilizations that thought slave labor was ok and that gods and whatnot controlled the earth.
To you it's deviant, and to me it's deviant, but I hate to play the cultural relativism card, but back then a lot of fucked up shit we now consider illegal or deviant was 'accepted'.
So yes, this shit existed back then, but that didn't make it ok. Using that fucker's logic, child marriage was also accepted back then, should we allow that too?
Why can't more people do the "You know, back then it did exist, but that doesn't excuse it being allowed now" state of mind. What's it with leftists always trying to asspull-reach their way back a hundred or a thousand years to excuse shit ideology and shit behaviors?
I agree. I never understood the logic that it happened in the past so it’s ok.