Oh fuck off, Ben Shapiro
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"Gang, we're fighting big tech and fighting for free speech by setting up this subscription model, gang."
"Gang, Crowder has a huge paying audience he can bring to our subscription service but we need to punish him on behalf of big tech if he uses his free speech gang. This is how business works, gang- my wife is a doctor"
"Ok gang Crowder is our friend, which is why we gave him a shitty, controlling boilerplate offer, gang."
"How could Crowder betray us, his friends gang, by sharing our contract offer - which is totally a great offer we're super proud of, gang?"
I don't agree with releasing the phone convo, especially because there wasn't really a big gotcha smoking gun that would justify it- but the DW mob attacking Crowder makes me glad I never signed up to DW.
The phone conversation was to demonstrate that he wasn't doing it over the money and had asked Jeremy to stop fucking over smaller people to which Jeremy replied that they should be wage slaves for a while then fuck off and restart their own shit elsewhere
TBF I don't think Jeremy was being totally serious there with the "wage slave" comment- and releasing private phone conversations to the public, especially someone you had a friendly relationship with, isn't somthing you should do willy nilly.
And I'm like 90% on Crowder's side here
Considering that most things I've heard from him has been extremely arrogant and condescending I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt especially because the contract reflects that attitude.
Also something really worth noting is that Crowder dropped Black Rifle Coffee after they denounced Rittenhouse and the Daily Wire picked them up. I think that says alot
Exactly. I could see crowder could be difficult to work with but he has stuck to his principles over money before. And this is way more now than black rifle coffee ever was.
Crowder has also been pushing Rumble like crazy
That's actually a huge deal. Fuck brc
Yeah DW isn't conservative. They're money grubbers masquerading as conservatives.
Well I definitely don't think it was willy nilly. Also consider that SC has been fighting the good fight against big tech for at least six years when they really started tightening the screws on him. So for a "friend" to propose something like this is laughable at best and insidious at worst. DW KNOWS that YouTube and Facebook and Twitter have each struck Crowder on many occasions even when there is no clear violation of their ToS. Even if what he did was OFF PLATFORM. They just do it arbitrarily. Sometimes they even retract it after he appeals. So SC would be staring down six figure penalties constantly even if he didn't do anything wrong. DW KNOWS his history and put this in there anyway??? They're either retarded (they aren't) or incredibly sleazy. If running afoul of Big techs arbitrarily enforced and defined rules is such a big deal to them, knowing what they know about SCs history with them, DW should never have even given an offer.
It all seems planned. He registered StopConPro a month before the Jeremy call was recorded. They’re buds, I’m sure they’re all in on it. Now it’s a giant news cycle. Might even make it into the lefty news. Works for both of them.
Yep. It all has the air of them doing weird over prepared "and the whole bus clapped" skits to their respective audiences while they bask in the glow of all the free viral marketing.
Never liked DV with their constant shilling. Nor their selling 10 cents worth of Made in China razors for $60 and calling it a blow against Woke Inc.
Haven't liked Crowder since he ran off "not gay" Jared and replaced him with a crowd of cringing "you tell'em boss!" sycophants.
For me I was on the fence, but once they added candace owens to their mix I immediately lost all interest. Having people of all cultures can be a great way to discuss topics, but the way they did it felt more like them trying to brag about her race than her credentials. "Join our site, and you can listen to the same fence-sitting shpeel tim poole does, only in the voice of a slightly attractive black lady."
I mean I always loved the clips of Candice Owens telling the BLM idiots they’re idiots and all, but Jesus it’s almost impossible to listen to her actual show. She’s always shrill, saying a thousand words a minute, full of anger and bitterness. I close YouTube sometimes and realise my ears are actually ringing. Definitely not a fan of hers.
And all that hanging onto Kanye West’s coattails, all those Fox News segments... zero doubt she’s a grifter of the highest order
I cannot for the life of me understand why the existing Daily Wire audience might like that style.
Cough Ben Shapiro Cough
See, one of my co-workers is pretty dumb and came up to me with this about a year ago, trying to suggest that with her in the fold it gives conservatives an edge somehow. When I brought up the idea of democrats only wanting to focus on race/gender so they can divide and conquer and that when you fight with idiots they'll win via experience, he walked out of the room and didn't speak to me for about 2 weeks.
There are quite a few really good black conservatives that actually bring up interesting points (thomas sowell being my favorite as I've bought 3 of his books). There are also quite a lot of them that, much like tim poole and 90% of the women who have onlyfans accounts, know there is a ton of money to be made by faking something and slowly converting people into their whales. In the case of daily wire it's the latter, as unlike crowder they will backpedal constantly even if it means looking like massive hypocrits.
Larry Elder is another good one IMO
I used to like her. I was watching her a loooooong time ago when she had a rinky dink channel and referred to it as "the myth of the coon". I think the problem is that the "person who's based but not from a traditionally based demographic" schtick became SUPER popular with her, Lauren Chen, Hodge twins, some of those gay people whose names I forget. True or not, it started to feel like a giant grift. But Vince Dao is legit. If you haven't heard of him, check him out.
The pay structure was literally worse than what you'd see in Hollywood too.
In Hollywood, only the absolute 0.001% of top talent gets residuals. Almost every actor is being paid a flat rate.
If the movie flops, they still get paid. The studio assumes all the risk. If the movie is a runaway success, well, they still get paid the same.
If you're that 0.001% of top talent, and the movie flops... you still get paid. The studio still assumes all the risk. If the movie is a runaway success, they get paid a LOT.
NOBODY is signing a movie contract where if the movie flops, you don't get paid, and if the movie is a runaway success, then you only get paid whatever it was that you get paid. Even the lowliest actors get paid scale.
Daily Wire wants 95% of the risk dumped on their talent, and they want to pocket 95% of the success. If all of their contracts are like this, then it means if Daily Wire gets completely Alex Jones'd, their expenses for their talent drops to only about 5% / person. But they'd still be getting money from DW+ subs. How does that make fucking sense? Am I supposed to believe 95% of their revenue is from ads? I seriously fucking doubt that. Even then, advertisers will still pay to advertise to the shitton of DW+ subscribers.
I love this. He actually sounds like this. EDIT: It was forgivable, when I percieved him as a right thinker, and not a trojan horse for leftism lite...