Child labour can only be acceptable under two conditions: it is not exploitative of the child, and it is not a hazardous work environment. A 14 year old Guatemalan child assembling car bodies clearly violates both those conditions.
One horrible situation existing doesn't mean additional ones should be allowed to propagate, especially those that are just for the whims of corporations trying to squeeze pennies.
Possibly. I don't know about Guatemalans specifically, but in my experience, foreigner households are either way worse than the typical American household, or way better, with not a lot of in-between.
This article doesn't go too much into the subject. I don't know what sort of hours these kids were working, the risks they were in, where their wages were going, what their home life was like, or how they got into the country. However, at this point in our cultural decline, I'm not willing to act on impulse either way. A 14-year old working in a factory would have been a bad sign for a white family in 1982, in what was still nominally a white American nation, but this is a Guatemalan family in the American Economic Zone in 2022. It's still probably not a good sign for anyone involved, but these days, it's worth knowing more.
What about condition #3: if engaging in the labor measurably improves the life of the child?
99% of child labor until the middle of the last century wasn't about corporations trying to make a quick buck. It was about those kids being able to eat, because existence is harsh and unforgiving.
It's not (necessarily). The idea comes from the industrial revolution, in which working conditions were awful and workers were exploited to extremes, coupled with the notion of mass public education. Children then would go to school and not work so that they can have a higher standing when grown up. Depending on the job, the state of educational institutions and social climbing opportunities, this doesn't always apply.
A carpenter, a baker, a mechanic, a welder, would do right in teaching their kids the trade early on, and even have them help out in true productivity. A business owner will bring his teen kid to the office so he can begin learning the family business. That is all good.
A poor kid might spend his Saturdays or weekday afternoons begging for coins or wiping windshields to help bring some bread to the table. That is not ideal, but it is honorable and not immoral. Children have been useful to their parents for most of human history.
Much like communism, the moment it starts being allowed in any respect above small communities, people without morals or care for the people under them will exploit it to the worst extent possible.
Its best to not leave these types of things to loose rules for the elites and government to profit off. We've already seen they have little care for driving us to extinction while they diddle and mutilate our kids, it will absolutely be done in a way that benefits no one but them.
The problem I have is not that there's some Guatemalan child laborers at the plant. The problem I have is why are there Guatemalans in Alabama? Deport the Foreign Invaders.
I mean yeah that's also a major fucking issue. But bringing child labor back to any extent will just make that problem worse because these companies will truck them in by a huge magnitude more.
What's the difference between working at 14 for 51 years and then retiring or working at 18 for 47 years and then retiring? Seems like you're still a slave either way.
I thought this was old news? I remember a story a while back that exposed child labor at Hyundai in an Alabama factory when law enforcement were investigating a child abduction or something like that?
Still safer than schools in the US, and probably learning more useful skills too.
I'm not convinced child labor is a bad thing.
Child labour can only be acceptable under two conditions: it is not exploitative of the child, and it is not a hazardous work environment. A 14 year old Guatemalan child assembling car bodies clearly violates both those conditions.
Yes because their normal home environment is superior...?
One horrible situation existing doesn't mean additional ones should be allowed to propagate, especially those that are just for the whims of corporations trying to squeeze pennies.
Possibly. I don't know about Guatemalans specifically, but in my experience, foreigner households are either way worse than the typical American household, or way better, with not a lot of in-between.
This article doesn't go too much into the subject. I don't know what sort of hours these kids were working, the risks they were in, where their wages were going, what their home life was like, or how they got into the country. However, at this point in our cultural decline, I'm not willing to act on impulse either way. A 14-year old working in a factory would have been a bad sign for a white family in 1982, in what was still nominally a white American nation, but this is a Guatemalan family in the American Economic Zone in 2022. It's still probably not a good sign for anyone involved, but these days, it's worth knowing more.
What about condition #3: if engaging in the labor measurably improves the life of the child?
99% of child labor until the middle of the last century wasn't about corporations trying to make a quick buck. It was about those kids being able to eat, because existence is harsh and unforgiving.
It's not (necessarily). The idea comes from the industrial revolution, in which working conditions were awful and workers were exploited to extremes, coupled with the notion of mass public education. Children then would go to school and not work so that they can have a higher standing when grown up. Depending on the job, the state of educational institutions and social climbing opportunities, this doesn't always apply.
A carpenter, a baker, a mechanic, a welder, would do right in teaching their kids the trade early on, and even have them help out in true productivity. A business owner will bring his teen kid to the office so he can begin learning the family business. That is all good.
A poor kid might spend his Saturdays or weekday afternoons begging for coins or wiping windshields to help bring some bread to the table. That is not ideal, but it is honorable and not immoral. Children have been useful to their parents for most of human history.
Much like communism, the moment it starts being allowed in any respect above small communities, people without morals or care for the people under them will exploit it to the worst extent possible.
Its best to not leave these types of things to loose rules for the elites and government to profit off. We've already seen they have little care for driving us to extinction while they diddle and mutilate our kids, it will absolutely be done in a way that benefits no one but them.
The problem I have is not that there's some Guatemalan child laborers at the plant. The problem I have is why are there Guatemalans in Alabama? Deport the Foreign Invaders.
I mean yeah that's also a major fucking issue. But bringing child labor back to any extent will just make that problem worse because these companies will truck them in by a huge magnitude more.
What's the difference between working at 14 for 51 years and then retiring or working at 18 for 47 years and then retiring? Seems like you're still a slave either way.
So, an illegal alien? I suppose it's better than what they usually wind up doing in the US like selling ass.
I thought this was old news? I remember a story a while back that exposed child labor at Hyundai in an Alabama factory when law enforcement were investigating a child abduction or something like that?
Yes, it has. This is more of the same investigation.
Ah, gotcha.
Invaders use fake IDs to get jobs. News at 11.
factories tolerate these illegals and let them change social security numbers on file every couple weeks when the numbers returned invalid
and labor pool being flooded by foreigners reduced wages in the first place