Welp, Orange Man Bad has announced his run for 2024
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Trump is too arrogant and out of touch with reality to realize that he has no chance of winning the Presidency again.
No Republican has a good chance nowadays without actually playing the Dem's game and utilizing early voting and mail in ballot harvesting.
I saw his whole speech and it was actually "low energy".
He espoused good policy positions on the border and I loved the part about restoring the jobs of federal employees who were fired for not taking the COVID vax + backpay for them.
Horrifically he still foolishly defends the lockdowns and says they were necessary to save lives.
Lockdown Don as An0maly calls him.
Trump played the old hits of Drain the swamp. He proposed a constitutional amendment for term limits on Congress and banning insider stock trading for members of Congress along with a lifetime lobbying ban for former members of Congress.
Those are great positions but they are never going to happen.
In terms of election integrity, he stated that all elections should be decided on election night and only use paper ballots and mandatory voter id.
That is fine but the how are you going to achieve it without winning under this current corrupt system?
The craziest part is when he praised fucking China for executing drug dealers and suggested we copy them.
Why the fuck would you give them this soundbite of "a quick trial and execute them that night."?
Only good news is that this speech gives me hope that Trump is beatable in a primary. This is not the Chad Trump of 2016 that I was cheering for.
This Trump actually looked pathetic when he complained openly that he is a victim. Yes the glowies targeted him unfairly but saying it out loud makes him look pathetic.
My only hope for any meager chance of a general election victory is that Ron DeSantis runs against him, uses Trump's covid failures against him, wins the first few early primaries and secures the nomination using the early momentum.
Desantis would then need to focus on building a strong swing state ballot harvesting operation to just have a decent shot of victory.
Good news is that Iowa and NH will be terrible states for Trump in the primary process.
Buckle up, the 2024 clown parade has started.
One thing I do admire about him is his stick-to-itiveness. He's been persecuted, prosecuted, silenced, sued, investigated, raided, then decided "ok fuck that I'm going in." That's some moxy right there.
I'd just rather see some fresher candidates with less baggage. I like Kari Lake, Kevin Kiley in California just got elected to the House, I'm still a fan of Larry Elder who has a great presence. With Trump all you get is more Trump.
No thanks on Larry Elder ever running for President.
I think he is a good guy and he is great on policy but the California recall was completely botched once he entered and he made it into a choice between him and Newsom vs just a referendum on Newsom.
I have met Kiley at a local event years ago in California and I think he will do a great job as a Congressman. In the future we will see how far he grows.
Kari Lake would have been a superstar contender for the presidency but the recent Hobbs steal unfortunately has lowered her standing substantially amongst certain members of the conservative base. Some dumb normiecons I know are actually saying she was a bad candidate and that is why she lost. Will be tough for her to run for President before she wins an actual statewide race.
Right now the only viable alternative to Trump for 2024 is Ron DeSantis. A 19 point victory in Florida is the happiest thing for me out of these midterms.
Youngkin has lost points in my book after he sent a hand written apology note to Pelosi after making a light comment about her husband.
We can choose between Orange Man or Florida Man in 2024.
I will take Florida Man anyday.
I’ve said before that my biggest fear of Trump 2024 run is that he will spend a lot of time rehashing 2020. Also his primary opponents would be dumb not to attack him on covid. Like you said in Texas you would have a lot of suburbs not support him and he really motivates the left to vote against him
I fear Trump actually would lose Texas in 2024.
Suburban counties like Tarrant, Denton and Collin will swing blue.
I pray Trump doesn't win the nomination.
Unless they get Matthew Maconochay to run I cannot imagine Trump not winning Texas. It's not really purple. Just a few blue districts that would be blue either way.
Remember that there is also Cruz's senate seat up in Texas in 2024.
Cruz has the lowest margin of winning in a Texas statewide race in 30 years.
Putting Trump and Cruz on the same ticket in Texas in 2024 is suburban poison.
It will either be Beto or McConaughey as the Dem nominee for Texas Senate in 2024, the Dem turnout will be maximized.
I rather not lose the Texas senate seat or lose it in a presidential election.
Same. If he is the nominee I'll vote for him but I'll vote against him in the primary. He had some good policies and they definitely used Covid against him by hyping it up as if it was the black death as well as downplaying the rioting thugs after George Floyd. In Texas what saved him was the south Texas latino swing in 2020. But like you said, the moderate suburban republicans really hate Trump and Cruz. Also with Trump, Mark Davis (has a local radio show) said that people will crawl naked over broken glass to vote against him.
The very dark grey pill I recently swallowed:
Even if Trump were chosen, unopposed as the Republican candidate, I don't think he can win. He's too polarizing. The "liberal" normies would crawl over broken glass to vote for Goatrapist McBabypunter if he were running against Trump. Absolutely nobody in the country hasn't already made up their mind about Trump.
If DeSantis runs and wins the primary, Trump will either run as an independent, or say the whole thing is rigged, don't bother to vote, and the ForeverTrumpers will listen because they'd follow him right off a cliff. This will cut enough Republican votes so the Dems win.
I honestly think I may have seen the last Republican president elected in my lifetime. Frankly, the Republican party deserves to go extinct, but I don't look forward to living in the world that's coming.
"Goatrapist McBabypunter"? Phrasemaker!
I agree about opinions on Trump. My casual observation here in DeSantis Land is that many of my neighbors want to vote for whoever runs against Biden or his surrogate, because we're all tired of living under this incompetent doddering shitbag's regime and scared to bitch about it in public for fear of reprisal. Many of these folks just assume Trump will be the man going against the D machine.
That's an immediate failure and a great example of not thinking 5 minutes down the road.
All having term limits for members of congress will achieve will solidify the swamp as the people "advising" the congress members will do all the work as you'll have a constant stream of people coming in that don't know the game. The elected official is just the tip of the iceberg.
This is what happened in my state. It really gave lobbying groups and bureaucrats who stay in for decades a lot of power. Had a nice side benefit of getting people in who focus on just getting what they can while they can before they term out. Things like tripling their pay, increasing per diem, nice things like that.
That plus in California, where they have term limits, the politicians play musical chairs with the elected positions. Its the same people, they just move between different jobs.
How so?