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posted 3 years ago by ThatsAlright 3 years ago by ThatsAlright +27 / -0
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– user20461 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

Good guys working in government? Doubt.

Interesting story, nonetheless.

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– AntonioOfVenice 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Might just be bureaucratic infighting. Some people may have been mad that their very valuable 'intelligence' work was overlooked because it revealed inconvenient truths.

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– deleted 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0
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– RaisingPhoenix 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Meh, I'm sure there are a few diamonds in the rough, but its the equivalent of searching for a blade of hay in a pile of needles.

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– BandageBandolier 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Were, not are, any real diamonds left must have gotten themselves hung by now. All that could remain now are the ones who feel kind of bad for putting themselves before doing the right thing.

Best you can hope for now is finding the one clean needle in a pile of strychnine laced needles.

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– Kaarous 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That story is a blatant cover for how they actually got the tip. Assuming such a tip existed anyway, and they didn't find it on accident or something.

Anyone who has access at that level knows not to reveal sources and methods.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There's been an ongoing fight between the military intelligence agencies and the civilian intelligence agencies in regards to Trump, and some of the political stunts that the civilian intelligence agencies are pulling.

One of the oldest stories about this is the USS Challenger explosion. The world's leading physicist Richard Feynman was put on a committee that was going to investigate the explosion. Feynman didn't really want to get involved in the first place, and didn't really care, and his personal relationships were on the rocks. Meanwhile, the committee basically started to cover-up NASA's negligence in the explosion.

Then one day, someone basically arranged a meeting with him. An unknown member of the NRO: National Reconnaissance Office, the top-secret military space program that pre-dated NASA and officially did not exist at the time, contacted him, persuaded him to look more into it, and even briefed him that the NRO had refused to launch that day due to weather conditions that they knew would effect the boosters. The same ones the USS Challenger was using. They gave him the contact information of the engineers who built it.

One of the engineers who built the boosters told Feynman that his company had contacted NASA in a phone conference, and said that the mission needed to be delayed for weather conditions. NASA rejected this, and dismissed the safety concerns. The engineer was so upset that he was screaming at NASA over the phone that they would kill everyone on that shuttle if it launched. NASA responded by threatening the contract with the company (which would have put them out of business). The engineer's manager basically said that they would approve the mission, but with reservations. The engineer watched the explosion on TV, and been hysterical and drinking for weeks.

Feynman felt that NASA's incompetence and negligence was criminal and insane so he went completely rouge on the committee. But because he was the popular equivalent of Niel DeGrasse Tyson, with the intellect of Albert Einstein, the bureaucrats really couldn't throw him off the committee. So they released their own report without his contribution, so he released his own report and absolutely fucking destroyed them in it. NASA was blaming everyone but themselves, while Feynman explained that NASA fucking knew of issues with the booster and knew the weather wasn't acceptable.

NASA was basically going to struggle session Feynman on national television by having both reports released publicly at the same time. Instead, like the professional physics professor he is, he absolutely obliterated their asses with a rubber o-ring and a glass of water, instantly disproving their theory of the accident and humiliating them in their fucking press briefing.

Short summary: NASA tried to cover-up the Challenger Disaster, and Richard Feynman would have never investigated the problem if a top-secret military intelligence agency, which officially did not exist, didn't completely rat them the fuck out for their criminal negligence.

NASA admins still didn't go to prison, but the organization go pretty aggressively re-organized. A lot of people got shit-canned from the industry as a whole (especially when the rocket companies realized those administrators were going to put their heads on the chopping block). It wasn't just that the shuttles needed to be investigated to see if they were still safe, it's that NASA wasn't fit to fucking fly them.

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– Skywise 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Deep state infighting. As soon as Bush announced his intentions to invade Iraq because of yellow cake there was an almost immediate push back from Democrat intel and propaganda proclaiming it was all a lie and this led directly to the whole code pink protesting groups (who quickly disappeared once Obama was elected and KEPT us fighting in Iraq)

if Bush and Cheney were so head strong about it and fabricating reasons (ala Putin) then why did Hillary give her blessing for it?

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– deleted 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0
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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

CIA glowniggers

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– Auntie_Mildred 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

It's glowjogger

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Here is the relevant part from the memoir

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Do people not understand the purpose of twitter?

TL;DR

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Don't forget that before the Democrats considered the FBI and CIA heroes, and that there was no such thing as the subversion of society and the American government by the intelligence agencies except in the minds of 'conspiracy theorists'; the CIA explicitly got caught hacking into Nancy Pelosi's laptop in order to gauge the damage of the House Intel Committee's investigation of the US torture program.

It was a big deal at one time.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

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