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Putin was holding back the entire time
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the only rational explanation for his restraint was that he wanted to minimize civilian casualties and damage to critical infrastructure
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this desire to minimize collateral damage makes Putin a better man than all of the Western commanders who indiscriminately carpet bombed their enemies in virtually every major conflict since WW2
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at this point, if Western media are speaking, they’re lying
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everyone on this board who thought the Ukraine was winning this war, or that Russia was somehow outmatched, is a fucking retard
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The Russians will most likely make a significant push to finish the conflict in early to mid November. They're done holding back, they've had that particular hand bitten and it won't be offered again.
I can’t predict what will happen now, but at least the pro Ukraine idiots might wake the fuck up and stop mindlessly carrying water for pozzed Western regimes.
Nah. If Ukraine is "winning" (i.e., making advances), that's proof that we need to send them more to aid their offensive. If it's "losing", then we need to send them more to allow them to survive. It's a catch-22.
You’re right. But I do relish the increased cognitive dissonance thrust upon them by these events. I’m happy that their brain pain is going up. Hopefully some of them snap.
I looked at the LinkedIn thread about this, and the NPC narrative is that this is Putin's last gasp lol
Putin could level Kiev with a nuke tomorrow and there would still be lefties claiming that he’s just insecure and the “walls are closing in”.
Similarly, Putin could be assassinated tomorrow and those same lefties would be calling it a false flag to make America look bad.
All motivations are ascribed with comical bias while all real world consequences are ignored. It’s like dealing with women who constantly say they want one thing and yet desperately seek the opposite. I guess the western political tradition has been truly feminized.
Among my 20 or so telegram channels on the war, one ended up being a redditor channel. There is ZERO chance of them 'waking up'.
Like I said in another comment, the people who won’t wake up will at the very least be forced to endure additional cognitive dissonance as they integrate this new contradictory information into their unwavering programming.
The NPCs that don't think and support Ukraine will never start thinking. They are the sheep who are unworthy of, but fully secured in, the power to vote.
I think the Russians really want to drag this out over the winter to make their real enemies suffer the consequences of their sanctions.
Striking Ukraine is the easy part, it's striking every other nation that hides behind them while crying about peace without sparking a ear that is hard.
Winter will probably hot very hard with the retarded sanctions imposed on Russia so dragging this war throughout winter would be preferable if they can afford to do so.
I think Russia would prefer 1) peaceful annexation of eastern, Russian-speaking provinces of Ukraine and 2) security guarantees preventing NATO expansion towards Russian borders. Harming the peoples of Europe is not a primary goal for Putin - just an unavoidable byproduct of the strategy chosen by the west to attack Russia.
If western governments want to harm their own peoples with sanctions against the country providing enormous quantities of cheap energy, then Russia will oblige - especially if the only alternative offered by western leaders is total defeat. If you impose an existential threat to a nuclear power that is also supplying your energy, the resulting hardships on your people should be laid at your own feet.
Why, though, would western governments want to harm their own people? For “green energy” aka the great reset aka global communism aka deindustrialization and depopulation. Our leaders have been looking for any excuse to reduce our energy supply and shrink our economies. Now they can do so under the guise of fighting the Russian boogeyman that they’ve painstakingly crafted via decades of media manipulation.
I agree that if given the chance for what you describe that Putin would likely take it.
I just don't think it will happen without some sort of impetus, in this case I think Russia will try and use the winter as a way to sway foreign public opinion in such a way as to force the elites to try and dial back or risk revolts.
The harder it gets to stay warm, buy food, and just keep going on with a peaceful lifestyle the faster a population will stop caring about foreign matters and look inward.
I believe that Russia is banking on winter being enough to get a more favourable position at the negotiations table.
Because our governments have been occupied and subverted by foreigners who hate us.
WW3 is coming. NATO is going to come up with a justification to invade. We're already there fighting in Ukrainian uniforms mostly likely but that is limited to special forces. (Michael Tracy filmed US troops massing in Poland and going into Ukraine like four months ago.)
Russia can't capture all of Ukraine with the troops they currently have. Many people have pointed this out since the beginning. So it was likely never their goal. The goal was to free the eastern regions and make some kind of neutrality agreement. That's not going to happen now. The west is going to attack and Russia doesn't want them to have an easy time. No comfy beds, working electricity, easy access to food and medicine. They're going to make Ukraine a very unpleasant place to be.
Russia is going to consolidate the newly annexed provinces and build up their defenses. When the NATO attack comes, Putin will claim to be a victim of western aggression. Which will be more or less true. Then it comes down to what China does.
Not that those sanctions matter mind you because Russia simply sells/buys things through a proxy country like India.
They're completely mad if they want to 'finish' things before the effects of their own mobilization kick in.
I said they'll make a push, starting in November, with the aim to finish the conflict. Not that they expect it to be over in five weeks.
OK, but why would they make a push before the mobilization provides them with a force multiplier?
If the mobilization was aimed at creating a backline force to garrison and hold existing gains, for one.
I reiterate, I think they'll launch a major offensive before too much longer.
This aged well.
How them Leopard 2s working out for ya? Got any of them left?
You're confused. Those aren't my Leopard's, but that is your comment that you made and turned out to be blatantly wrong. Keep coping about irrelevant stuff though, I'm sure that'll make you unbraindead.