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– SoctaticMethod1 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Whether this is true or not, I really don't see Ukraine existing as a fully sovereign country anymore

Maybe in name only as a puppet state but the only question is who's pulling the strings.

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– Adamrises 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Those billions in aid from other nations weren't given out of charity.

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– Ahaus667 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Ukraine existing as a fully sovereign country

Sorry, but it never was, Ukraine has been a puppet state it’s entire history and a money launderer for powerful countries.

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– SoctaticMethod1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

True the funny thing was there was a slight chance when that president rejected the EU but ever since it's just been slow rolling to the current situation.

Deposing a democratically elected leader through mass revolution never works out when you already had peaceful solutions available.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thia "democratically elected leader" has 0.0% support in Ukraine. This is why Russia's not doing anything with him, and never tried to do anything with him whatsoever, because even all the seps hate him too. He's universally hated by everyone there, including his own former supporters, just everybody with no exceptions. If they brought him back, their own puppets in the People's Republics would be furious and would be demanding to let them publicly execute him for how he's betrayed and abandoned them when he secretly fled with stolen money in the dead of night without stopping on the way to Moscow. They would make a festival out of his execution.

While all the 4 other presidents in Ukraine's history (including Kuchma who had once chosen Yanuk as his successor) stand united firmly against Russia. Literally with guns in their hands, even if symbolically.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The Rus before the Mongols and the Lithuanian domination, really? Whose?

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The Rus were not Ukrainian, any more than the original Prussians were Germanic peoples.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They were. The same people ethnically, in the same location, speaking roughly same languagele, and the today's state claims this legacy (and even a plenty of troops get their Viking tattoos and worship Odin).

Which is unlike Königsberg, where the Prussian Germanized population entirely replaced by the Russians (Soviets) who have never been there before 1945.

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I really don't see Ukraine existing as a fully sovereign country anymore

It hasn't been a sovereign country since February 2014. It's a puppet of the Western imperialists, who like Adam Schiff said during Trump's impeachment "send weapons to Ukraine so we fight Russia over there and we don't have to fight it over here".

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– SupremeReader 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Man, you're so retarded sometimes.

Why can't you just listen to the Russians, so openly telling you they're fighting against "nationalists" (their term) to restore an empire?

Why can't you believe them?

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Man, you're so retarded sometimes.

Only sometimes? I'll take the compliment.

Why can't you just listen to the Russians, so openly telling you they're fighting against "nationalists" (their term) to restore an empire?

I'm listening to the Americans. Is that allowed?

What country would tolerate freakazoids like Lindsey Graham going to their neighbors, sending weapons and saying that 2017 will be 'the year of offense"? Or calling for Putin's assassination as he did?

I'm not against empires. European imperialism was quite beneficial for the1 subject peoples. I'm against American imperialism. If they want to re-establish their Empire, then good for them - it'll probably be good for the Ukrainian people.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, only sometimes.

Why don't you listen to Russians? About the naked imperialism (the "Peter the Great" again, "Third Rome", all that), about crushing the evil of "nationalism", all what they tell you and you close your eyes and ears and go LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU COMRADES WEST BAD DOWN TO IMPERIALISM.

I don't know whatever you mean by "2017", they year when nothing happened even more than in 2016.

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