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– Ahaus667 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Ukraine existing as a fully sovereign country

Sorry, but it never was, Ukraine has been a puppet state it’s entire history and a money launderer for powerful countries.

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– SoctaticMethod1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

True the funny thing was there was a slight chance when that president rejected the EU but ever since it's just been slow rolling to the current situation.

Deposing a democratically elected leader through mass revolution never works out when you already had peaceful solutions available.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thia "democratically elected leader" has 0.0% support in Ukraine. This is why Russia's not doing anything with him, and never tried to do anything with him whatsoever, because even all the seps hate him too. He's universally hated by everyone there, including his own former supporters, just everybody with no exceptions. If they brought him back, their own puppets in the People's Republics would be furious and would be demanding to let them publicly execute him for how he's betrayed and abandoned them when he secretly fled with stolen money in the dead of night without stopping on the way to Moscow. They would make a festival out of his execution.

While all the 4 other presidents in Ukraine's history (including Kuchma who had once chosen Yanuk as his successor) stand united firmly against Russia. Literally with guns in their hands, even if symbolically.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The Rus before the Mongols and the Lithuanian domination, really? Whose?

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The Rus were not Ukrainian, any more than the original Prussians were Germanic peoples.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They were. The same people ethnically, in the same location, speaking roughly same languagele, and the today's state claims this legacy (and even a plenty of troops get their Viking tattoos and worship Odin).

Which is unlike Königsberg, where the Prussian Germanized population entirely replaced by the Russians (Soviets) who have never been there before 1945.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

If 'roughly the same language' counts, then it's as close to Russian as it is to modern Ukrainian - seeing as these languages had not even diverged from Old Church Slavonic at the time.

And the modern state claiming this legacy says not that much. Obviously, they'd grasp at any fig-leaf. Considering the many monuments built to Nazi collaborators and war criminals, even that.

Isn't settling your own people in conquered land against international law? I guess the allies cared as much about that as they did about the Katyn massacre.

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