Not that I went there much anymore, but it seemed like one of the first anti-nonsense subreddits.
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Were they right-leaning? Last I went there it was a bunch of "we're fine with all the degeneracy that was forced on people up until about 2014, but this new wave of degeneracy goes too far!" leftists.
Being pro gay marriage but anti-trans is basically Nazi ideology, according to reddit.
It makes me think that giving in on anything is a really bad idea, because it only moves the ball further down the field and shrinks the Overton Window further.
That's been my take as well. I went solidly from pro-gay marriage and pro-choice to being against both.
Gay marriage has normalized degeneracy and led to exactly what the religious-right warned us of. If it stopped at "live and let live", then I wouldn't give a fuck.
Abortion as a rare last option, has become "stab the baby in the face on its way out of the womb at 9 months".
I am still pro-choice, but I'll be damned if I don't experience some pleasure if my side loses - simply because some of the worst people are on my side.
I think if we told them at the time what would happen, they would tell us to stop being melodramatic, and that it's bad but nowhere nearly this bad.
You're behind the times. California is passing a bill that gives 'pregnant persons' a month to kill their babies after birth, and if it dies they can't be charged criminally or civilly and they can't be investigated by the police. Note this protection applies to mothers only, of course.
It's supposed to protect against prosecution if you get a late term abortion or something, but the actual wording of the law basically legalizes infanticide.
Partial birth abortion doesn't involve stabbing a baby in the face. They have it come part way out and suck the brains out through the back of the skull with a sharpened vacuum tube.
Enjoy your breakfast with that mental image.
Legalizing gay marriage was a huge mistake. Have you ever read Obergefell v Hodges? It's all nonsense. There's no rational justification for legalizing gay marriage at any level, much less legislating gay marriage from the bench at the federal level. It is Roe v. Wade version 2.0; a garbage ruling by predominantly Leftist judges in order to advance the agenda, with no legitimate consideration given to the US Constitution whatsoever... all just abstractions of abstractions and "penumbras" to interpret it however is most convenient to them.
Beyond the legality of gay marriage, there's no rational or common sense argument for gay marriage either. I'm sorry, but no matter how you consider the topic, gay relationships are NOT comparable to heterosexual relationships in any way that actually matters. We conceded that feelings and emotions are more important than truth in the case of gay marriage, and it's only gone downhill from there.
You can support homosexual marriage without approving of Obergefell, just like you can approve of legal abortion while opposing Roe (as I do).
Sigh It was. Hindsight is December 20/20, and such…
But yeah, it was. This is, I’m afraid, very much the correct take.
All those people got replaced by women after they won.
Same year it suddenly became LGBT, which coincidentally put women first.
Remember ShortFatOtaku? His "cohost" is a train - Lilith Lovett, and although these two speak out against SJWs (SFO was a GG OG) they're both fairly staunchly leftists. They're the "I'm not a far leftist BUUUT" types and are "enlightened centrist" types.
All this stuff the left was doing is bad, but look at the right wing, they're bad too!
"Marxism is bad but, to make sure I'm "balanced and centrist" I'll also call out the so-called far right!"
It's infuriating why so many of these Bernie Bro types do not fucking GET it. I'll borrow a left wing phrase.
It's not enough to be "against SJWs", you have to be anti-leftist, including SJWs and all the fuckers that are around on that side of the spectrum. THe Overton window has moved too far left and it must be dragged back, trying to stop it where it is will NOT help.
That line about Bernie Bros is too true. I know way too many who consider themselves "moderates", yet still support support Bernie & every other democrat and leftist-liberal agenda.
Exactly, Friended and PSA Stitch, both GG OGs, also are like this. They hate Trump and wish we could go back to the "good old days" of being BernieBros and advocating for single payer healthcare and high tax brackets, etc.
It's like they don't get, the echoes of marxism that fuels the far left idpol shit. It's the SAME shit that fuels your demands for "democratic socialism".
I mean, you’re not wrong.