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Baby formula plant responsible for shortage shut down again after 11 days due to flooding (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by altmehere 3 years ago by altmehere +31 / -0
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– lgbtqwtfbbq 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

Wild how one factory is responsible for production of such a large percentage of all formula, and how few people ask basic questions like "why is one factory responsible for production of such a large percentage of all formula?" and "why are there like two companies producing nearly all the formula?" and "why don't supermarkets have their own generic brand formulas?"

Then you go down the rabbit hole and realize that's also true for other staples like saline solution.

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– TentElephant 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Going further down the rabbit hole. You realize that the choices presented in the supermarket are entirely artificial. Every industry is controlled by a duopoly, and the allocation of resources to every industry is more rigidly dictated by economic controllers such as Larry Fink than any Soviet commisar could have ever dreamed.

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– realerfunction 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

this was all done to us by the people pretending to fix it.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, incentives are such that only a handful of enormous companies can comply with the regulations and profitably produce formula. Then there's a whole process to bring new production facilities online, which makes it difficult to respond to problems of this sort. This is a problem, "nefarious" or not.

And harmonizing the regs would help, but they'd still be onerous regs that would prevent small batch formula from small local producers (eg. the dairy farm down the road).

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Perhaps, but in the current situation where there are shortages and the military is airlifting small quantities from Europe, I suspect people would take what they could get. And if their choice was between "let your infant starve" and "feed your infant the formula made from the 100 year-old recipe fed to your great-grandparents that the dairy down the street is making" they might choose the latter.

I'm not against regulation; I simply think we should punish (including executing) those who do harm and leave those who aren't harming others alone. There's a very wide chasm between "safe" and "complies with FDA regulations"; I have direct experience with this.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Ultimately risk is dependent on alternatives, and if the alternative is "your baby starves to death" then bespoke formula made by the diary down the street sounds pretty good.

The FDA didn't exist until 1906: what do you think people did before then? My great-grandparents were subsistence farmers who if you told them that infants were at risk of starving in 2022 would have looked at you funny, because if they weren't breast-feeding they would have just given their babies some milk from their cows with whatever extras the local midwife suggested. None of which went through a multi-million dollar clinical study.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
... continue reading thread?
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– Kienan 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

few people ask basic questions like "why is one factory responsible for production of such a large percentage of all formula?" and "why are there like two companies producing nearly all the formula?" and "why don't supermarkets have their own generic brand formulas?"

Gubmint, gubmint, and, uh, gubmint.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Correct. And to be fair, also the lobbyists the giant companies pay to make sure the Gubmit keeps new players out of the market.

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– BlightBane 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

What is it with constant news of shit breaking down, burning down, flooding, cattle dying?

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– cccpneveragain 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

They will blame it on climate change.

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– Assassin47 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

We are being punished with plagues and pestilence and fools as leaders.

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– Shill4Hire 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It has always happened, but now people are looking. And since people are looking, spinners are spinning.

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– FrostedCricketFlakes 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

and massive chicken culling.

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– the_nybbler 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The plant isn't responsible for the shortage, the FDA is. They shut down the plant on suspicion of an infection from there. When it turned out the infection wasn't from there, rather than letting up they doubled down and kept the plant closed.

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– The_Gay_Deceiver 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Nothing in particular its one of those things people have put undue trust in and its been so long since anyone’s thought about it and the prospect of fucking it up and killing/tarding up your baby is enough to keep people scared of trying.

I’ll be researching home recipes before I have kids. Something without as much soy/seed oils..

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– The_Gay_Deceiver 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

but then how will our heckin holesum trump-supporting gayerinos raise their rent-a-womb babarinos? :OOOO

Ofc that's the best course of action but having the option of formula feeding available for the people who would otherwise fall through the cracks is very important, I would say. Any number of things could happen to make it a good option for normal people in unfortunate circumstances.

If I'm any evidence non-pozzed formula feeding works just fine as my mom formula fed me. But that was the 90s, I obviously don't trust it these days now since the establishment seems to actively want to kill us.

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– FrostedCricketFlakes 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Some women can't. Agreed if they can.

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– Shill4Hire 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

#BringBackWetNurses

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