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posted 4 years ago by WW1Wilson 4 years ago by WW1Wilson +9 / -0
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– ailurus 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

No idea on Barnette, hadn't heard of her at all before someone posted about her here in the last week or so.

As for DeSantis:

Trump will almost certainly run in 2024. And IMO, anyone sane should vote for him over Harris or whichever nutjob gets put up on the D ticket. That said, Trump should not run. He really shouldn't. He's just too divisive and there are too many NPCs out there. The salt mines would be amazing, especially if he won again, but I'm very skeptical if he could. The well is just too poisoned.

DeSantis, though, has a lot of policy successes to stand on (especially with regard to Covid), is pretty solid platform-wise, and has actually taken actions to push back against the Woke crew rather than talking about it. And while the media will undoubtedly try to portray him as Trump 2.0 he doesn't have as much of an immediate negative reaction from normies. Will see what happens in the next 2 years but for now I really think he should be the R nominee in 2024.

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– AntonioOfVenice 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

he doesn't have as much of an immediate negative reaction from normies

Yet.

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– What_password 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

I do think Biden is so bad a lot of people would vote for Trump who wouldn't have before, but he'll never be allowed to win as we saw. He's better off as a king maker. Sure, he makes some bad plays with the people he chooses to endorse, but overall I think he's a net positive. Plus the republican establishment hates him, which is a positive in my book.

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– ParadigmShift2070 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

most of his endorsements are bad plays

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– What_password 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I don't like all of them. I think he picks people like Oz because it's a sure win compared to Barnette (whether that's really true or not). Unfortunately that means more rinos, but I guess I'd take that over the dems. Hopefully he gets so annoyed with the RNC he works to screw them over but I'm not going to hold my breath.

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– LauriThorne 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Better the enemy you know than some crazy dem who will push for insane shit like unrestricted abortions up to birth.

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– Smith1980 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

A good friend told me last week he will support Trump or any Republican against Biden. He voted Biden in 2020

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– Smith1980 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I’ve heard people describe Desantis as Trump minus pointless tweeting. If Trump is the nominee I’ll vote for him but I’d rather it be someone else.

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– JuanTitor 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I think Mexican and black men like Trump pretty good nowadays and don't respect Biden or Kamala, which in a fair election is more than enough to swing it. The people screaming about Trump will vote for anything they are told to, probably even a literal animal.

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– TentElephant 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

There is no voting out of this, nor a worthy candidate if it could be done. DeSantis and Trump will be equally blocked by the managerial state if they try to actually do anything significant, and neither has indicated they are capable of overthrowing the regime. DeSantis shouldn't run because he is far more useful as the King of Florida than the Squire of DC. It's also weird that Trump still has support after so thoroughly abandoning his people.

The best case scenario in a Trump run is for the laptop class to obviously fortify him out again. There is a large portion of the population that is completely disillusioned with all institutions of power and those institutions are beginning to doubt their own legitimacy, since the progressive narrative that they are rebels clashes with so obviously being in power. The worst case scenario is a Trump win, as the token gesture would renew faith in the system for everyone.

Regime change won't happen until the current regime blinks at a moment of crisis when a new set of elites is prepared to usurp them. This nightmare doesn't end until there are tanks in Harvard Yard.

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

RDS has shown that he is very adept at wielding the levers of power. Trump showed the opposite, notwithstanding the obvious sabotage.

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– TentElephant 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

DeSantis has also spent a lot of time securing his power in Tallahassee. He doesn't have that support structure in DC. Washington will be far more aggressively hostile and he risks the recapture of Florida by progressives.

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Yes, I don't expect him to be as successful as he was in Florida (simple regression to the mean would foil that), but he would probably be better than Trump.

I am less sure than you are that exposing institutions, while a noble goal, in itself is going to lead us anywhere. They'll just rip off the mask and rule openly by force. Like Orwell said, all tyrannies rule by force and fraud, and solely force once the fraud is exposed.

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– TentElephant 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

It's less about exposing them than demolishing their political formula. I'm most concerned about people believing the system works and re-engaging with the progressive dialectic. For example, CNN and NYT are failing right now, which is good. Trump back in the White House would bring them to life, which is bad.

There is value in forcing them to drop the mask because foxes are terrible at direct violence of that nature, and they only have to hesitate once for the game to be over. As they ramp up the pressure through more duplicitous means, the more places start simply ignoring them, and they do have limited resources to enforce their will at the lowest levels. The problem of hyper-centralizing power is that they lose perspective to see what is actually happening on the ground.

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

DeSantis is like Trump, but actually effective at getting things done. Maybe that is why. Disney was the culmination, but he has been at it for years now.

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– deleted 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0
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– What_password 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They went off the rails after the election. Too much Q, too much doom and gloom. Used to be a great place to get rundowns on news but it's really not that great these days.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Breitbart's primary function is securing support for Israel. They will glom onto their candidates of choice based on their strategic value in achieving that. Trump or DeSantis will deliver all the same on that.

I think people are starting to lose a bit of trust in Trump. There's only so many times Trumps failures can be blamed on the people around him before the natural followup question, "why is he always around these people?" starts to manifest.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Despite my own issues with Trump, it would still be funny if he won again, especially if Hilldawg came from left field to somehow get the nomination.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's a new one.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What is?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Imagining that people now hate Trump because... Jews?

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's not what I was saying, but keep up the ADL-tier paranoia.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

There's only so many times Trumps failures can be blamed on the people around him before the natural followup question, "why is he always around these people?"

This was a completely innocuous statement, I assume?

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's definitely going to include many Jews like the Kushner family but also many gentiles like Bolton and Pence, Mr. Greenblatt.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's definitely going to include many Jews like the Kushner family but also many gentiles like Bolton and Pence

Lowlifes, warmongers and... decent people?

Mr. Greenblatt.

You've divined me as a Joo? Funny, as I'm pretty much the opposite - like an Armenian once said when I asked if he was a Turk.

But I guess I was wrong then. I don't take you for the kind to play the hypocrite and deny this when it was something that you did mean.

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– GeneralBoobs 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Pants pissers wanting more 'electable' republicans instead of those that people really love.

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– JiggsawCalrissian 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

DeSantis is DeSantis

Burnette I believe is because she stands to (and frankly should) best Oz in the upcoming prime

At or against Trump. While I appreciate him lifting the rock so we see all the worms underneath, I'd rather have Rand Paul as pres with say MTG as vp (and DJT as house speaker for lulz)

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– Assassin47 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You know why. And Breitbart would have always preferred anyone but Trump until they had no choice.

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