Could be, but think how much bs has been accepted into mainstream view thanks to somebody bullshiting on the internet. How do we know a group of overly ambitious 4chaners on /b/ didn't look at the frankfurt school ideology, do some minor tweaking, and started using that to troll leftists on tumblr, etc?
Imagine it then slowly caught on with the tumblrinas, who, not being in on the joke, took it completely seriously.
Again, this is raw speculation on my part, but it's fascinating to think about, and it's not that far fetched...
lol i only talked about where social justice came from and you use it as an excuse to bitch about russia Can you keep your anti-russia boner to yourself already? DrJester? we know you hate russia because they are against the New World Order
What's your take Putin's speech on 21 February that attributed the creation of Ukraine as a country to various communists going back to Lenin and characterized the Russian annexation as the obvious conclusion of decommunization efforts that were already happening in Ukraine?
It's nothing more than bog standard Marxism, except with straight white Christian men as the new bourgeoisie.
It's the nature evolution of all left wing thought. Marxism was always an ideology by and for the parasites and the inferior. It was inevitable that it would be applied across racial lines as well.
well, when you consider that sensitivity to racism was a bigger weakness in the states than class at the time, I'd say it was a tailor made modification.
It absolutely was not. Class warfare was front and center in the United States in the early 1900s, there were communist and proto communist movements all over the place, particularly the unions.
And how did that work out? Now there's basically one movement, the one that pushes CRT.
Pushing class didn't really get them the desired result, so they pivoted to something more amenable to American history, where kings and queens weren't really a thing, so class struggle was less of a wedge issue.
Most were rightly stomped out with violence, the survivors consolidated and turned to infiltration and subversion tactics for the past century.
Pushing class didn't really get them the desired result
It isn't that it failed. It's that the American people correctly recognized the threat and destroyed them. However, we did not gatekeep hard enough against subversive forces and un-American ideals afterwards. This culminated in the "America for everyone" bullshit that brought about the immigration "reform" bill of the 60s, which was written not coincidentally by a Marxist Jew.
Critical Race Theory goes all the way back to the 60s, immediately after the Civil Rights Act was passed. They've been infiltrating schools, media, law, and bureaucracies ever since.
We're just at the point that we've reached critical mass, where there isn't a generation alive that didn't go through the indoctrination camps of public school.
fair enough, but is it possible somebody picked up this theory that had limited traction before and , in an effort to annoy and grief others, took it to an extreme, only to have that extreme version be picked up as the social justice that we all know and hate?
Critical Race Theory goes all the way back to the 60s,
Critical theory goes back further, critical race theory is just a natural offshoot of it. It goes back to the frankfurt school and Horkheimer who first coined it in 1937, though it existed with other names and as a process prior to being given its name,
Okay, but is it possible the first "strain' of social justice if you will, the one that led to gamergate, started as an intentional troll by some assholes on the internet, just looking to rile people up for their own amusement before being picked up by ideologues and con artists looking to take advantage of other people's goodwill/guilt?
My theory before covid was they were using African migrants to give everyone in Europe AIDS so they could control the populace using anti-viral medications distributed by the government, but I guess that's not as fast as just having everyone inject themselves with it "voluntarily." Whatever gets the genetic material into them.
And that's probably how it will go, anyone who doesn't die in the first wave will have their social credit score in their microchip in their hand and if they don't obey the government and parrot the approved lines, they don't get their PrEP. Bread lines but for pharmaceutical drugs. Gulags are so messy, just poison everyone and then deny "healthcare" to the dissidents.
Yes. Back in the day, there was an infographic going around about ShitRedditSays having its origins in SomethingAwful. I think that grossly overstates the influence of terminally online weirdos, and the ideas behind it didn't come from trolls. They just used existing ideas as a way of trolling for a bit.
pfft! like I care. I came here to get away from the terminally offended, not become them.
n-word pass
You know it's funny, I can say almost any other offensive term on dot.win, especially on c/consumeproduct , but knowing that, I have no desire to do so.
When I used failbook or twatter, I unironcially wanted to constantly, just because they told me not to.
Technically yes as it was a communist attempt to destabilize America.
In truth, communists do not believe in freedom or equality, they merely dangle those lies in front of the gullible and retarded to get them to destroy themseleves.
What do communists get out of this? The power to make everyone as miserable as they are.
Technically yes as it was a communist attempt to destabilize America.
I don't mean technically, I mean literally is there any kind of parenthetical connection between social justice and the kinda of 'for the lulz' trolling of the late nineties/early two thousands?
In truth, communists do not believe in freedom or equality, they merely dangle those lies in front of the gullible and retarded to get them to destroy themseleves.
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. For one thing, you gotta keep in mind that the most dyed-in-the-wool communists, including Marx himself, were ironically about as "bourgeoisie" as they came, so besides the inevitable NIMBYism, they also have/had little to know understanding of how money works in the real world, as opposed to their little gated community bubbles.
Add to that a touch of egomania, and you start to see why they unironically believe they could reshape human thought into something more "equitable," in spite of the numerous failures of their ideas to bear fruit. Their predecessors just didn't have them to make it work, so of course it failed (/sarcasm).
communists do not believe in freedom or equality
I suspect they see 'freedom' as an illusion meant to control the gullible, but when you look at their actions, there doesn't seem to be an objection to making people 'equal' by making them equally miserable. So long as the playing field is 'level,' I doubt the average rank and vile gives it much more thought than that.
What do communists get out of this? The power to make everyone as miserable as they are.
Power in general, but also they get to fluff their own egos.
Since Social Justice was part of the Russian psy-ops to destroy America during the cold war, and since brokering peace it continued to grow like a malignant tumor... Within that perspective, yes, it was a troll job that got out of hand.
I don't think a couple off-hand comments of old irc pubs and forums would have provided nearly as much impetus as tens of thousands of school teachers indoctrinating hundreds of youth for several years each, no.
YES thanks to social media: besides genuine extremists on left and right trying to move ppl to their point of view youve got trolls playing the strawman on the other team trying to add chaos, increase division, and make their side look crazy to normies. But people already on their side see that and instead of thinking "man that's crazy" they double down trying to top the extremists. It happens on both sides but the right is more successful at it because left is truly full of NPCs. So there was real leftist subversion for decades but our brave meme warriors have accelerated it. Praise Kek.
I'm saying is it possible that /b/ or GNAA or some other group of lovable idiots started intentionally pushing it as the world's largest poe and then it got out of hand (or not..)
left wing social justice was engineered and invented by Frankfurt school .
Could be, but think how much bs has been accepted into mainstream view thanks to somebody bullshiting on the internet. How do we know a group of overly ambitious 4chaners on /b/ didn't look at the frankfurt school ideology, do some minor tweaking, and started using that to troll leftists on tumblr, etc?
Imagine it then slowly caught on with the tumblrinas, who, not being in on the joke, took it completely seriously.
Again, this is raw speculation on my part, but it's fascinating to think about, and it's not that far fetched...
just using 4chins as an example.
it really was a more innocent time in many ways...
"Social Justice" predates the internet.
Lay off the weed bro.
God I wish. I'm this bad on pure air...
lol i only talked about where social justice came from and you use it as an excuse to bitch about russia Can you keep your anti-russia boner to yourself already? DrJester? we know you hate russia because they are against the New World Order
What's your take Putin's speech on 21 February that attributed the creation of Ukraine as a country to various communists going back to Lenin and characterized the Russian annexation as the obvious conclusion of decommunization efforts that were already happening in Ukraine?
It's nothing more than bog standard Marxism, except with straight white Christian men as the new bourgeoisie.
It's the nature evolution of all left wing thought. Marxism was always an ideology by and for the parasites and the inferior. It was inevitable that it would be applied across racial lines as well.
well, when you consider that sensitivity to racism was a bigger weakness in the states than class at the time, I'd say it was a tailor made modification.
It absolutely was not. Class warfare was front and center in the United States in the early 1900s, there were communist and proto communist movements all over the place, particularly the unions.
And how did that work out? Now there's basically one movement, the one that pushes CRT.
Pushing class didn't really get them the desired result, so they pivoted to something more amenable to American history, where kings and queens weren't really a thing, so class struggle was less of a wedge issue.
Most were rightly stomped out with violence, the survivors consolidated and turned to infiltration and subversion tactics for the past century.
It isn't that it failed. It's that the American people correctly recognized the threat and destroyed them. However, we did not gatekeep hard enough against subversive forces and un-American ideals afterwards. This culminated in the "America for everyone" bullshit that brought about the immigration "reform" bill of the 60s, which was written not coincidentally by a Marxist Jew.
Critical Race Theory goes all the way back to the 60s, immediately after the Civil Rights Act was passed. They've been infiltrating schools, media, law, and bureaucracies ever since.
We're just at the point that we've reached critical mass, where there isn't a generation alive that didn't go through the indoctrination camps of public school.
Gen X is fell for that as well as "muh free speech" which was just a thinly veiled plot to normalize degeneracy.
fair enough, but is it possible somebody picked up this theory that had limited traction before and , in an effort to annoy and grief others, took it to an extreme, only to have that extreme version be picked up as the social justice that we all know and hate?
Critical theory goes back further, critical race theory is just a natural offshoot of it. It goes back to the frankfurt school and Horkheimer who first coined it in 1937, though it existed with other names and as a process prior to being given its name,
Okay, but is it possible the first "strain' of social justice if you will, the one that led to gamergate, started as an intentional troll by some assholes on the internet, just looking to rile people up for their own amusement before being picked up by ideologues and con artists looking to take advantage of other people's goodwill/guilt?
Wait, this shit is giving people AIDS? But like, with or without HIV?
My theory before covid was they were using African migrants to give everyone in Europe AIDS so they could control the populace using anti-viral medications distributed by the government, but I guess that's not as fast as just having everyone inject themselves with it "voluntarily." Whatever gets the genetic material into them.
And that's probably how it will go, anyone who doesn't die in the first wave will have their social credit score in their microchip in their hand and if they don't obey the government and parrot the approved lines, they don't get their PrEP. Bread lines but for pharmaceutical drugs. Gulags are so messy, just poison everyone and then deny "healthcare" to the dissidents.
Yes. Back in the day, there was an infographic going around about ShitRedditSays having its origins in SomethingAwful. I think that grossly overstates the influence of terminally online weirdos, and the ideas behind it didn't come from trolls. They just used existing ideas as a way of trolling for a bit.
Hey! I resemble that remark! 😜
I get to say it. I haven't been here in months. It's like an n-word pass or something.
pfft! like I care. I came here to get away from the terminally offended, not become them.
You know it's funny, I can say almost any other offensive term on dot.win, especially on c/consumeproduct , but knowing that, I have no desire to do so.
When I used failbook or twatter, I unironcially wanted to constantly, just because they told me not to.
Technically yes as it was a communist attempt to destabilize America.
In truth, communists do not believe in freedom or equality, they merely dangle those lies in front of the gullible and retarded to get them to destroy themseleves.
What do communists get out of this? The power to make everyone as miserable as they are.
I don't mean technically, I mean literally is there any kind of parenthetical connection between social justice and the kinda of 'for the lulz' trolling of the late nineties/early two thousands?
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. For one thing, you gotta keep in mind that the most dyed-in-the-wool communists, including Marx himself, were ironically about as "bourgeoisie" as they came, so besides the inevitable NIMBYism, they also have/had little to know understanding of how money works in the real world, as opposed to their little gated community bubbles.
Add to that a touch of egomania, and you start to see why they unironically believe they could reshape human thought into something more "equitable," in spite of the numerous failures of their ideas to bear fruit. Their predecessors just didn't have them to make it work, so of course it failed (/sarcasm).
I suspect they see 'freedom' as an illusion meant to control the gullible, but when you look at their actions, there doesn't seem to be an objection to making people 'equal' by making them equally miserable. So long as the playing field is 'level,' I doubt the average rank and vile gives it much more thought than that.
Power in general, but also they get to fluff their own egos.
Since Social Justice was part of the Russian psy-ops to destroy America during the cold war, and since brokering peace it continued to grow like a malignant tumor... Within that perspective, yes, it was a troll job that got out of hand.
so you don't think some idiots on old school internet forums could have given it a 'push' just to annoy other people for their own amusement?
I don't think a couple off-hand comments of old irc pubs and forums would have provided nearly as much impetus as tens of thousands of school teachers indoctrinating hundreds of youth for several years each, no.
good point, what if those teachers were in the irc chats as kids?
YES thanks to social media: besides genuine extremists on left and right trying to move ppl to their point of view youve got trolls playing the strawman on the other team trying to add chaos, increase division, and make their side look crazy to normies. But people already on their side see that and instead of thinking "man that's crazy" they double down trying to top the extremists. It happens on both sides but the right is more successful at it because left is truly full of NPCs. So there was real leftist subversion for decades but our brave meme warriors have accelerated it. Praise Kek.
I'm saying is it possible that /b/ or GNAA or some other group of lovable idiots started intentionally pushing it as the world's largest poe and then it got out of hand (or not..)
you sound like a 14 year old. get off the internet and start reading a book.
but the internet is where I buy my books. 🤪