I've been in the KIA sphere since about 2014, under various user names.
Personally I was hard-left on economics and environmentalism but with a weird libertarian slant towards guns and free speech in high school around 2012.
Around 2014 in college I became disgusted with the left abandoning individual rights and truth and nature. I became more conservative after that point due to my hatred for the policies and bug-man tendencies of the left. My right wing ideas peaked around 2016 and I have settled into a primitivist libertarianism since then.
I think I would have considered myself a "confused liberal". I was raised neo-conservative religious but drifted liberal in college as the contradictions in neo-conservatism became apparent. Around 2009-2010 the contradictions in neo-liberalism started to become apparent, but I still thought they could be salvaged through process and consensus-building.
OTOH in my professional life I was working for a giant multi-national where process and consensus-building was how everything was done, and I was growing frustrated with it having come from a small company primarily dominated by hierarchy, individual decision-making, and relationships between individuals. I used to be able mention a problem to the right person at the bar Friday after work (and vice versa) and it'd be fixed by Monday; not so at the big company.
It wasn't until the past couple years when I finally realized that dichotomy is a pretty good approximation of left-wing and right-wing modes of organization and that my strong preference for the latter probably means I'm right-wing.
Ironically one of the seminal texts in my field, The Mythical Man Month, recommends strong hierarchies and individual decision-making as the best way to organize software teams, and I imagine if it hasn't already it will eventually be deemed to promote "fascism" or "sexism" or some such thing and purged.
I've been far right since I was a teenager. A bunch of feminist nutjobs at my college were having a made up holiday, something about unwashed vaginas. They ran around asking people to wear their ribbon for solidarity and threw eggs and rocks at as anyone who refused.
That's when I realized that they will never leave you alone, and never intended to. I've been a strident anti leftist ever since.
I considered myself libertarian since I was in high school, in the early 2000's. I hung out with leftist cliques like punks and what not. Everyone assumed I was a fellow lefty because I would say "I dislike the government." Since they weren't openly spewing socialist and commie bs I never felt like I needed to say much more about my beliefs. I had a very live and let live attitude. On the rare occasions I would talk about my views on gun control or mention I'm going to the range I'd get some odd looks but no one really said anything. It was a very different time.
Sometime during Obama's presidency things changed. People would react oddly at the things I had always said offhand. It became apparent I was not going along with the party line and I was an outsider. Saying I did not like the government suddenly became racist. "You don't like Obama because he is black?!" was the usual response.
So I did the typical Libertarian thing and just stopped talking. I should have known better. I didn't want to make waves and thought "live and let live, this will blow over." Then the whole gamergate thing.
I was pretty up to their noise by then. Only a few people actually mentioned it to me but seeing the response by media made me certain that this was a war. And then I'm reading Rules for Radicals and The Gulag Archipelago
It only got worse. I'm still a libertarian but I really don't like the way the national party went. I don't want to give TheImp ammo but things went bad after Jess Mears got on. She used to host national party calls, like actual party calls, with some great guests, but stopped that when she moved up north.
Before GG, I was already a classic liberal. Time slowly reveals that I've always felt the way I do now, but was more willing to bend my beliefs if I could be persuaded with the right circumstances. Those circumstances rarely exist anymore.
Same. Considered myself lefty-lib, pro-feminism until GG, then realised feminism != equal rights; they want more and don't give a shit about men's rights. Wasn't until 2016-18 when I dropped the lefty part (still consider myself classic liberal).
I was part of the crowd facepalming at the "dumb yanks" electing a TV talk-show host, but the hate-boner the media had for Trump got me questioning more than believing. Ate crow- he's not the GOAT, but he's a damn sight better than any in living memory, as far as I know (admittedly, a low bar). Didn't have much faith in media after GG, but lost my last modicum of respect for the profession.
Fast forward to current day and I have 0 trust or faith in any of the government institutions. They, the media and the left are full mask-off 24/7 and I can never go back to giving them the benefit of the doubt or assuming good faith. They want us dead, raped, our children violated, and they think it's funny. There can be no quarter given, not an inch- aside for the normies, it's us or them.
Started out as your standard young American liberal, then trump won and watching people melt down was hilarious. Kind of followed that path of “lol feminists” till I became serious about my beliefs. I’m really now a hard right Christian nationalist. A pretty small group of us but always willing to work with those who have slightly differing views.
I am, and always have been, a 2000s liberal. I believe everyone has the right to be left alone, and what consenting adults do with their bodies is their business. I believe the government has a duty to be transparent, and that freedom of speech is fundamentalto our society. As a result, I also believe you cannot compel anyone to speak a certain way about people.
This position is considered ultra right wing today. The nu-left is a dogmatic cult, and I am a heretic.
Started life with KIA around August 2014 as a lurker. Around that time I worked as a Paralegal in a civil rights and employment law specialized, litigation focused firm. Used to be a lot more wishy-washy in my beliefs at the start of this mess, but time and bullshit have solidified my positions on many things.
Back in 2013-ish, when I was 18, I started noticing the feminist-tumblr-SJW bullshit but was largely apolitical beforehand. From thereon I became more and more annoyed with the intrusion of feminist and leftist politics being pushed into video games and entertainment.
I've just kinda gone further right from there, especially by MODERN left wing standards.
I was always a centralist liberal until they took gaming. Once that happened I started to notice how deep this all went. Pretty messed up man, I just wanted to play video games.
I used to be naive, fairly far to the left (by standards back then), libertarian and largely uninterested in politics.
Then Gamergate happened. I realized journalism is nothing but propaganda and it just snowballed from there because the left never stopped getting crazier every year and infected everything like cancer.
I had a very interesting development arc. I supported remaining in the EU at first, but became conflicted and didn't vote in the end. The Trump win redpilled me, but I was a fucking tradcuck. I'd hate myself if I met myself from back in 2017/2018. Theresa May's Coercive Control psychopathy made me an anti-feminist, and from there I just gradually developed a deeper and deeper distrust in our "better halves".
To be fair it should be the case that the overwhelming majority of the population are at liberty to be non-political. We are in the unfortunate situation where our elites hate ordinary people and wish to do us harm, which forces us to care about politics.
Most of my ancestors were subsistence farmers who in 300 years never left the county they originally settled. Did they care about politics? Probably not, and they were better for it.
Most of my ancestors were subsistence farmers who in 300 years never left the county they originally settled. Did they care about politics? Probably not, and they were better for it.
The same here and I absolutely agree. A citizen's role in politics, even when serving as a politician, was meant to be very limited. Or at the most localized. Federal reps convened for a short time then went back to their farms.
I was always pro gun, pro free speech, and anti-immigration. My economic views started out right, went left, then went back right again. I was suckered into tolerating (in a do what you want but leave me out of it kind of way) alphabet degeneracy and abortion with live and let live arguments. That was around the time my economic views went to the left, so I voted Democrat for a long time, and I continued doing so for way longer than I should have. When identity politics took off in 2014 I was reasonably inclined to believe the idea that sacred classes face things like racism and sexism in today's world but I wanted proof. I also realized that even if the claims were true their tactics were a gift to their opponents, and Trump's election confirmed that. It didn't take me long to realize the whole social justice thing is just an anti white male scam that will end in genocide if they get their way. The combination of having to support myself for the first time and being subjected to the Democrat tax increases and gun control measures broke me out of the inertia of voting Democrat.
I was a big Bernie supporter in 2016, became a fan of IDW around the same time (especially Jordan Peterson), was a big Trump supporter in 2020, and now I unironically believe the bad guys won WWII. WWII history as we have been taught is pretty much 100% lies. Trump is Jewish controlled opposition, and Democracy is and always has been a smoke screen for oligarchs - the lie of rule by the people is probably even bigger than the holocaust lie.
I have no idea what you are talking about as I know the drama was that zoe quinn got caught cheating on her boyfriend and lying about her internet drama, and that a bunch of regressive leftist urinalists were caught aggressively defending her which culminated in the infamous "gamers are dead" media blitz where they bashed the gaming community for not complying with intersectionalism, leading to the gamejournopros google group getting exposed.
I've been in the KIA sphere since about 2014, under various user names.
Personally I was hard-left on economics and environmentalism but with a weird libertarian slant towards guns and free speech in high school around 2012.
Around 2014 in college I became disgusted with the left abandoning individual rights and truth and nature. I became more conservative after that point due to my hatred for the policies and bug-man tendencies of the left. My right wing ideas peaked around 2016 and I have settled into a primitivist libertarianism since then.
I think I would have considered myself a "confused liberal". I was raised neo-conservative religious but drifted liberal in college as the contradictions in neo-conservatism became apparent. Around 2009-2010 the contradictions in neo-liberalism started to become apparent, but I still thought they could be salvaged through process and consensus-building.
OTOH in my professional life I was working for a giant multi-national where process and consensus-building was how everything was done, and I was growing frustrated with it having come from a small company primarily dominated by hierarchy, individual decision-making, and relationships between individuals. I used to be able mention a problem to the right person at the bar Friday after work (and vice versa) and it'd be fixed by Monday; not so at the big company.
It wasn't until the past couple years when I finally realized that dichotomy is a pretty good approximation of left-wing and right-wing modes of organization and that my strong preference for the latter probably means I'm right-wing.
Ironically one of the seminal texts in my field, The Mythical Man Month, recommends strong hierarchies and individual decision-making as the best way to organize software teams, and I imagine if it hasn't already it will eventually be deemed to promote "fascism" or "sexism" or some such thing and purged.
I've been far right since I was a teenager. A bunch of feminist nutjobs at my college were having a made up holiday, something about unwashed vaginas. They ran around asking people to wear their ribbon for solidarity and threw eggs and rocks at as anyone who refused.
That's when I realized that they will never leave you alone, and never intended to. I've been a strident anti leftist ever since.
I considered myself libertarian since I was in high school, in the early 2000's. I hung out with leftist cliques like punks and what not. Everyone assumed I was a fellow lefty because I would say "I dislike the government." Since they weren't openly spewing socialist and commie bs I never felt like I needed to say much more about my beliefs. I had a very live and let live attitude. On the rare occasions I would talk about my views on gun control or mention I'm going to the range I'd get some odd looks but no one really said anything. It was a very different time.
Sometime during Obama's presidency things changed. People would react oddly at the things I had always said offhand. It became apparent I was not going along with the party line and I was an outsider. Saying I did not like the government suddenly became racist. "You don't like Obama because he is black?!" was the usual response.
So I did the typical Libertarian thing and just stopped talking. I should have known better. I didn't want to make waves and thought "live and let live, this will blow over." Then the whole gamergate thing.
I was pretty up to their noise by then. Only a few people actually mentioned it to me but seeing the response by media made me certain that this was a war. And then I'm reading Rules for Radicals and The Gulag Archipelago
It only got worse. I'm still a libertarian but I really don't like the way the national party went. I don't want to give TheImp ammo but things went bad after Jess Mears got on. She used to host national party calls, like actual party calls, with some great guests, but stopped that when she moved up north.
DLDR: Vote local, become ungovernable, dig holes.
Before GG, I was already a classic liberal. Time slowly reveals that I've always felt the way I do now, but was more willing to bend my beliefs if I could be persuaded with the right circumstances. Those circumstances rarely exist anymore.
Same. Considered myself lefty-lib, pro-feminism until GG, then realised feminism != equal rights; they want more and don't give a shit about men's rights. Wasn't until 2016-18 when I dropped the lefty part (still consider myself classic liberal).
I was part of the crowd facepalming at the "dumb yanks" electing a TV talk-show host, but the hate-boner the media had for Trump got me questioning more than believing. Ate crow- he's not the GOAT, but he's a damn sight better than any in living memory, as far as I know (admittedly, a low bar). Didn't have much faith in media after GG, but lost my last modicum of respect for the profession.
Fast forward to current day and I have 0 trust or faith in any of the government institutions. They, the media and the left are full mask-off 24/7 and I can never go back to giving them the benefit of the doubt or assuming good faith. They want us dead, raped, our children violated, and they think it's funny. There can be no quarter given, not an inch- aside for the normies, it's us or them.
This is very similar to me in so many ways.
Zoe Quinn may have surfaced in articles on what we now recognize as regressive leftist game journo rags in 2013, but the drama started in 2014.
Started out as your standard young American liberal, then trump won and watching people melt down was hilarious. Kind of followed that path of “lol feminists” till I became serious about my beliefs. I’m really now a hard right Christian nationalist. A pretty small group of us but always willing to work with those who have slightly differing views.
I think the dissident right is a lot older than that. I think there were men that died before I was born who knew roughly where the west was headed.
That said, I was sort of a neocon when I graduated high school, like a republican from 2010 or so. Drifted right ever since
One of my biggest redpills was reading things from the 1940s and even earlier that amounted to "I didn't leave the left; the left left me".
Not hard to see the patterns. Perhaps hard to allow your mind to see them. I admit I prevented myself from seeing them longer than I should have.
I've been a rightie all my life, maybe more right-libertarian in my teens and early 20's. I'm far less tolerant now.
I am, and always have been, a 2000s liberal. I believe everyone has the right to be left alone, and what consenting adults do with their bodies is their business. I believe the government has a duty to be transparent, and that freedom of speech is fundamentalto our society. As a result, I also believe you cannot compel anyone to speak a certain way about people.
This position is considered ultra right wing today. The nu-left is a dogmatic cult, and I am a heretic.
Started life with KIA around August 2014 as a lurker. Around that time I worked as a Paralegal in a civil rights and employment law specialized, litigation focused firm. Used to be a lot more wishy-washy in my beliefs at the start of this mess, but time and bullshit have solidified my positions on many things.
Red pilled in 2011
"Because you'd be in jail" made me a horrid alt right straight white male wrong thinker for life
Back in 2013-ish, when I was 18, I started noticing the feminist-tumblr-SJW bullshit but was largely apolitical beforehand. From thereon I became more and more annoyed with the intrusion of feminist and leftist politics being pushed into video games and entertainment.
I've just kinda gone further right from there, especially by MODERN left wing standards.
I was always a centralist liberal until they took gaming. Once that happened I started to notice how deep this all went. Pretty messed up man, I just wanted to play video games.
I used to be naive, fairly far to the left (by standards back then), libertarian and largely uninterested in politics.
Then Gamergate happened. I realized journalism is nothing but propaganda and it just snowballed from there because the left never stopped getting crazier every year and infected everything like cancer.
I'm here because the left pushed me here.
I was non-political.
I had a very interesting development arc. I supported remaining in the EU at first, but became conflicted and didn't vote in the end. The Trump win redpilled me, but I was a fucking tradcuck. I'd hate myself if I met myself from back in 2017/2018. Theresa May's Coercive Control psychopathy made me an anti-feminist, and from there I just gradually developed a deeper and deeper distrust in our "better halves".
I used to call them worse halves, but that breaks R16. Says something interesting about the normalization of "better halves".
To be fair it should be the case that the overwhelming majority of the population are at liberty to be non-political. We are in the unfortunate situation where our elites hate ordinary people and wish to do us harm, which forces us to care about politics.
Most of my ancestors were subsistence farmers who in 300 years never left the county they originally settled. Did they care about politics? Probably not, and they were better for it.
The same here and I absolutely agree. A citizen's role in politics, even when serving as a politician, was meant to be very limited. Or at the most localized. Federal reps convened for a short time then went back to their farms.
I was always pro gun, pro free speech, and anti-immigration. My economic views started out right, went left, then went back right again. I was suckered into tolerating (in a do what you want but leave me out of it kind of way) alphabet degeneracy and abortion with live and let live arguments. That was around the time my economic views went to the left, so I voted Democrat for a long time, and I continued doing so for way longer than I should have. When identity politics took off in 2014 I was reasonably inclined to believe the idea that sacred classes face things like racism and sexism in today's world but I wanted proof. I also realized that even if the claims were true their tactics were a gift to their opponents, and Trump's election confirmed that. It didn't take me long to realize the whole social justice thing is just an anti white male scam that will end in genocide if they get their way. The combination of having to support myself for the first time and being subjected to the Democrat tax increases and gun control measures broke me out of the inertia of voting Democrat.
i didn't really have any, and now i think anything short of "gun law is what's written in the constitution and nothing further" is tyranny.
I was a big Bernie supporter in 2016, became a fan of IDW around the same time (especially Jordan Peterson), was a big Trump supporter in 2020, and now I unironically believe the bad guys won WWII. WWII history as we have been taught is pretty much 100% lies. Trump is Jewish controlled opposition, and Democracy is and always has been a smoke screen for oligarchs - the lie of rule by the people is probably even bigger than the holocaust lie.
i thought i was a progressive until tia/kia beat that notion out of me
Sorry for deleting this thread everyone.
you should read some history
I have no idea what you are talking about as I know the drama was that zoe quinn got caught cheating on her boyfriend and lying about her internet drama, and that a bunch of regressive leftist urinalists were caught aggressively defending her which culminated in the infamous "gamers are dead" media blitz where they bashed the gaming community for not complying with intersectionalism, leading to the gamejournopros google group getting exposed.
Alex Keaton, datchu?