First off, I am well aware that media is corrupt and governments are corrupt and so are corporations so they'll all twist things against you. Let me get that out of the way.
So, there are two schools of thought when it comes to movements. One is to take a "fuck the optics, get shit done, they're going to lie about you anyway" approach, and another is "focus on the optics to win over as many independents as possible".
What I'm seeing with the trucker convoy, actually seems more like the latter.
When shitheads like Trudeau try to demonize the Trucker Convoy with far left buzzwords, you can simply ask these mainstream shills "WHERE IS THE PROOF?" because every single incident of it has been addressed. They have these press conferences and make sure a single message is being sent. That's why it's so easy to get information about them because it gets disseminated to us quickly without a media filter. A LOT of independents are being won over, even moderates who never had their skin in the game. Having a right wing media infrastructure also has been a tremendous boom to them.
GG initially started as a consumer revolt, and near the first two months of GG it had a focus on optics. Eventually the "muh optics" crowd ended up clashing with the "fuck the optics" crowd and the movement eventually dissipated, among for many other reasons (is it about GAEMS JOURNALIZM or is it actually about the far left and its march through the institutions? We know the answer, we knew it was going to happen) I remember a lot of optics shit near the first two months, adopting a sea lion, funding various charities, getting TFYC's Afterlife Empire published (turned out to be kind of a meh game), running hall monitor 'harassment patrols' on Twitter, etc.
But those all failed, which pretty much cemented the fuck the optics argument and to never bend the knee.
However, with the trucker convoy there does appear to be an attempt to maintain those optics. Lots of footage of comaraderie, denouncement of any forms of violence, kicking that retard who brought Nazi paraphenelia with him, etc.
Am I comparing apples to oranges here or is there some merit to the "optics" argument?
GG failed because A. Everyone dismissed Metokur wanting to go on the offensive and B. Everyone ignored the gatekeepers and KIA1 allowed leftists in and it went down hill fast. The moment people started pointing out the wider implications and alot of these SJW's ties to the Frankfurt school and people backing Trump, who was the ONLY politician calling out the far left, the movement split and people chimped out. Queeny left because she had illegal family members, Boulder Matt went left, ThunderFoot went full TDS, Kraut did his doxxing server with at least a dozen other Skeptics and GG'ers.
He's never acted like a conservative (never claimed to be one afaik) - but a lot of this is just like, your opinion, man. You can explain Trump's failure to accomplish some of his campaign promises by a lack of political capital, competency, or a lot of things besides "he lied". And he's the only one who explicitly expressed support for gamergate types. You expected us to vote for some other boomer neocon who doesn't even know what that means?
Trump not long after being elected held his weird ass anti video game "violence" meeting complete with the White House releasing that ridicalous montage of GTA and some shooters on YT. That was about it for anything games related, besides his earlier tweets about how such games are "creating monsters". Because one of his beliefs being this is what makes the Cool Shooters and it's such a grave issue in America (when was even the latest one in a school in America that didn't involve the "urban youths", or trannies for that matter? That Cruz dude, the literal El Goblino?).
All that happened after GG ran out of momentum in November though.
Gamergate didn't fail at all. Every outlet we fought against has spiraled downward, some fatally. When's the last time anyone mentioned GamaSutra or Leigh "I AM Games Journalism" Alexander? Kotaku has been sold and resold for less and less each time. VICE has been written down into literal worthlessness. BuzzFeed's IPO was a resounding failure, with their stock sitting at a whopping $4.32 as I write this. We did what we set out to do -- but in typical gamer fashion, we exposed a bigger boss behind all the fuckery. Then, depending on how much you want to give us credit for, SJWs spent four years screeching about how Gamergate nazis took the White House, and now about how they forced the Prime Minister of a G7 country into hiding as he feebly shouts the same "muh racist nazi" playbook that failed eight years ago into a chorus of honks. And something tells me we're not done yet. Don't doubt yourselves, lads.
YEARS later and due to their own wokeness and incompetency. GG at best accelerated their spiral and exposed them earlier than expected, though I think they would of gone full retard after Trump won anyway.
Absolutely not no. Gamergate ran up against an ugly, purple haired Jewish lesbian who mailed death threats to herself, and then Obama sent her to speak to the United Nations.
Literally every single part of the proverbial they was arrayed against the idea of gamergate.
Armenian (and of a nationalist sort).
("Trust a snake before a Jew and a Jew before a Greek, but don't trust an Armenian." — George Orwell)
If I become God-Emperor of the West, the entrance to my throne room will be the GamerGate.
I just wanted to play video games man.
Look what they made us do. Now we're fighting for Western civilization at this point. I know I'm overstating it, but GG was the start of my journey from being a disgruntled leftist to right wing populist and my hate against globalists and mainstream media.
And funny thing? I still think I've pretty much stayed in the MIDDLE. But these fucking leftists have gone so far off the deep end I look like a far right wing guy to them.
I'm the same. I'm slightly more to the right in things like immigration and religion then I was 6 years ago but other then that I have remained the same.
#metoo, man. I feel you.
Wrong.
Optics means that the Freedom Convoy has and will continue to achieve absolutely nothing of note.
Eventually they'll be given some minor leeway on the vaccine shit and the leaders will all yell at once, "WE DID IT! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! GO HOME PEACEFULLY!" having gained no ground and having created no infrastructure for future change.
Nobody is calling for Trudeau to resign, nor Doug Ford nor anyone else.
Fuck all will be gained but idiots like you will conflate positive media impressions with actionable gains.
Optics can go burn.
Guess what?
He's going to get away with it.
Congrats. 😊
Optics never work unless you are already in power.
Peaceful Protests never work (unless the regime stands behind them)
Thats the thing, theyll call us Nazis no matter what.
You hit the nail on the head. Optics work if those in power allow it to work. From my pov GG did not fail. At least not completely, they are still trying to smear us years after so is clear that the existence of GG is a problem for them.
Peaceful Protests don't even exist.
It's a fake term for imaginary bullshit that the overlords really want you to believe in.
They have a lot of big fuckin trucks. We are a bunch of nerds typing away while working on our TV tans.
The capability differential between the groups means one can't be ignored.
I wish. I think I'm starting to become whiter, not a good carrier move.
New business solution, computer screens that can give you a tan, "invest in your future", "claim your affirmative action today" , "grow your market value while playing games" - good slogans?
edit: "use our screens and feel better represented in medieval themed movies and games"
Of course optics matter, but it's irrelevant because any non leftist movement fails because it doesn't have what it takes to build things that make movements work.
Asking if optics matter is asking a strategic question before the army is built.
In the current cultural environment, any propagation of information is going to be lies and used against you. That will not change. Therefore the option is to act in a way that the lies about you are so patently absurd they work for you. You know the media will lie about you, so use it to your advantage. Call a march "the 3 person march" so when the media refer to it as that, every single photo will have more then 3 people in it. Now it works for you as highlighting the obvious absurdity of the news.
Look at the responses in the thread, every single one is completely different from the rest, the "movement failed" because it was never a movement to begin with.
Optics or not I'm not sure we're going to see a different outcome with the Canadian protest. Meaning I don't think they are going to win. Maybe they win over some public opinion, but that will go away quickly when things have quieted down.
They did accelerate the timeline on dropping provincial mandates at least.
A month ago, there was not even a hint of rolling back any of this shit.
GG had good optics, but your opponents were two U.S. Secretaries of State and the Queen of England laundering Russian and Chinese money through the Rothschilds and the Bank of Israel to Saudi Arabia's and Qatar's spy networks. You literally had all of the world's spy networks uniting to shut you down. A lot of the "fuck optics" crowd were likely state actors trying to troll you into breaking the law so you could be arrested or going full /pol/ so they could justify tracking you and your online associates.
Whoah man. This sounds like something Seattle4Truth would say, but he's in prison after murdering his dad for calling him the N-word.
Seattle had good sources. It took me a few years to validate the stuff that he was saying in his 3 hour videos, but he was reporting the Epstein story years before anyone else. The British didn't like what they were ordered to do so they left an online trail exposing the whole network to anyone who cared to look into it. Start with Blavatnik School of Government, Coalition for Inclusive Capitalism, Avaaz=Hamas, Branson's B Team is Avaaz, and Russia's partners. And note the date on that last one.