This part is just to desensitize the population. The military taking "sick" people to camps has to be seen as normal before they can start taking "could make us all sick!" people.
It’s also Aboriginals living in remote communities that I had never even heard of before this week…
That makes it EVEN EASIER…
Let me put it to you this way, as a “huwhite”, urban-ish Australian, the people in these communities are as foreign to me as they are to you. It just so happens that we share the same landmass, and arguably country…
Thus, it is INCREDIBLY easy to “other” them, and dehumanize them, as the media is currently doing…
There’s an ABC series called Stateless and another one called Maralinga. Both show fictionalised accounts of things that really happened, out there, in the last 60 years, which are relevant to this…
I would recommend checking them out, if you can. See also Pine Gap and The Code (series one). All ABC (Australia), surprisingly…
I don't speak Australian, so maybe I'm just not picking up on his tone here, but it sounds like he is talking about the results of a retaliatory strike against terrorists in a foreign land rather than removing citizens' livelihoods. No compassion, not even a hint of "We're so sorry but..."
About 18 years ago the city built what appears to be a multi-layer, multi-person gallows, called "Art" off one side of our most prominent bridge. Since it's creation we have heard our elders talk of the abomination akin to foresight, as to where the instigators want to be hung from. Their sentiment seems closer to realization now, then when they spent our taxes to build it. And then fucking told us that we had to call it art. NO, IT"S FUCKING PIPES AT 90* ANGLES FOR $28ml!
It certainly feels like the good ol' days of propping up juntas and dictators because they were anti-communist and we'll just overlook how they treat their own people.
Except, I'm not even convinced Australia would be willing to side with us in a conflict with China.
Except, I'm not even convinced Australia would be willing to side with us in a conflict with China.
They're certainly both on the same page when it comes to building gulags/camps. Doesn't the CCP already have massive control over Australia? I thought they were pretty blatant about it, but I might be getting Australia mixed up with Canada.
We also won’t get them for like, a decade at this point, if they build them new…
By which time the tech will have been superseded, and… Well, uh, you can guess what else MIGHT have happened by then…
So it’s pretty much entirely pointless, really! 🤦🏻♂️
Those people will almost all (in fact almost certainly every single one) be Indigenous, which means…
Here we have a “leftist” leader rounding up the Abos, AGAIN, displacing them from their communities, and using the army to send them to camps. Again!!
This has all happened before (see: Aboriginal “missions” and the Stolen Generations. Just like Canada. Just with different names for it.), and it will all happen again…
I should also add: Gunner is announcing this from Darwin (I presume) which is as far away from where I am as New York is from Cali…
Where this is actually happening is as far away from me as Chicago is from LA, but, importantly, it is also as far away from Darwin as, I dunno, Vegas is from LA..? Maybe even further. The NT is huge, sparsely populated, and governed very paternalistically from its capital.
I hate to say “always has been”, but that…
So… That’s important. I understand what is going on, because I’m Australian, see Australian news and consume Australian media. Politically, though, and physically? There is almost literally nothing I can do about this, apart from to shame and share it online, raise awareness, and fight to prevent this from “spreading” to our states, as it almost certainly will, if the ALP (Gunner’s party. Like our version of the Demonrats, but much, much more “left wing”…) and other vested interests get their way… 😒
In non-North-American distance units, the distance from LA to Vegas is untenably far, like hearing of exotic lands in the far off yonder that you may one day see, one day. The distance from NY to LA, by contrast, is effectively an impossible concept, infinite in range, like saying "The moon", it's just somewhere that will never, ever be reached.
Remember that to the rest of the world, the USA and Canada's states and provinces, individually, are effectively larger than most countries. We're positively massive, and our sense of scale is complete off compared to theirs. What to us is a long-ish daily commute, to them is something they might do once per year. My daily commute at one point was longer than going through two countries in Europe, and I thought nothing of it. I had relatives from Europe come over, who didn't inform me, because where they were visiting was two hours away, and to them that just seemed like an insane, impassible distance to drive over to say hello.
So what they're saying is that to the beaurocrats, the place they're oppressing is effectively another planet, but to this poster, it's more like hearing of something a country or two over, much more imminent, even if still quite divorced from their life.
Driving LA to Vegas when there is no traffic is just a couple of hours. Not the kind of trip I'd like to make often, but you hear of it being done often enough. Meanwhile to NY, we're talking a couple of days. No one does that unless they're on an adventure, or a cross country truck driver.
Two hours away seems like such a joke. A cousin of mine who lived two hours away was getting married, and wanted help preparing stuff, and also threw a number of pre-wedding and post-wedding parties, in addition to the wedding itself, and I drove back and forth for all of them. Seemed like I went there about 10 times over two months. Wasn't a big deal at all. To have relatives who you don't see often staying only two hours away and not wanting to visit? Wow.
Your perspective makes me feel really sorry for Europeans. At one point I was going to see a medical specialist monthly which was ~4 hours away. I'd leave early in the morning, and come back in the afternoon. I cannot say I enjoyed the travel, but it was better than the alternative. So the European would just stay home, or take a chance with a local quack because there was no one else within their tiny country? Wow, just wow.
To your latter point, I think (and somewhat from experience, in Germany), it’s more that everything in Europe is generally concentrated in a smaller space, specifically because the countries are, for the most part, smaller…
So unless you’re way out in a rural area, say, in a larger country such as Ukraine or Poland (or even a village in Spain, for example), you’re just never that far from those services…
There’s also the cultural difference that fast international trains, slower, regional trains, ferries of all sorts, riverboats and buses everywhere else, are almost completely ubiquitous, even in a relatively poorer country such as Turkey (from experience), as is some form of “universal” healthcare, even in somewhere like Russia, so… The situation you describe simply does not usually happen, simply because it does not need to.
This has been my experience in several euro countries, both EU and non-EU. YMMV.
It's not necessarily being far from services. In the US, the large cities are going to have practically every kind of service you're looking for. However most "experts" are little more than parrots who cannot deal with complex scenarios. If you're having a serious issue, and an expert that is actually better than the rest is one state over, then the travel is worth it.
But if your mindset is to only look at something local, and traveling to another state/country is like going to another planet, then you purposely close yourself off of some better options that may exist.
Ok, fine. Sure. All I can say is that just isn’t how healthcare works, in other places. Sometimes you can choose your specialist, but, in the VAST majority of cases, in the public system, which most people will use, so as to avoid paying thousands of dollars out of pocket, you simply can’t usually do that.
It depends where I live. But say, hypothetically, I live in… Brisbane. I decide, for whatever reason, that I want to see a doctor in Sydney, which is a 10+ hour drive away, because I think they are better. In the public system I can’t do that, because it’s not in my “catchment area”…
Hell, in some states, if you live on the north side of the city, you have to go to the PUBLIC hospital on the north side, not the one on the south side. Because again, catchments. Otherwise the perceived “best” hospitals and doctors will be completely overwhelmed. Again, this only applies to the PUBLIC system. It also applies to PUBLIC schools. Though not universities, of course…
The rest of the world does not operate on the American model. That’s the fundamental “disconnect”, here, I think. What you’re used to, simply isn’t how it works, in the vast majority of the rest of the world, including Australia.
The state I live in is the size of Ireland. Or like, New England, maybe, in the US..?
The Territory, where this is happening, is, by comparison, I think legit larger than Texas. So that’s larger than almost any European country. And this happening on one end of that “territory”, while the man announcing it sits, in the lap of luxury, at the other end.
But it’s so far away from me as to be, as you say “another country”. Like how distant Moscow would seem from say, Paris. Or New York and LA, as I said…
Darwin and these communities are in the same territory, but on either end of it, which is fucking massive… Not sure quite how massive, but probably around the size of Texas. But bigger than California…
I guess that’s what I was going for. “Dallas to Atlanta”, perhaps, if you prefer…
AUS Military trains inhabitants, takes back government and hangs the tyrants after a 3 month long trial. At which point, China pulls most all of its businesses connected to the CCP out of AUS.
So I have an Aussie friend when I ask him about all the Covid stuff seems to just stick with "mr neutral" and not wanting to take sides.....
Is this totally legit so I could use it to really stick it to him :P? or is he going to give me some answer about hwo these are not technically really concentration camps.... I guess I am asking just how legit is this... or are we hyping them up as concentration camps?
I couldn't say. All I can point at is videos like that, plus that they went from being new arrival quarantine facilities to general quarantine facilities for native Australians, so by definition, concentration camps.
Second, keep in mind that many German people either didn't know, or were in denial of Jewish concentration camps, sometimes in their own towns. And that Americans celebrated interning Japanese Americans in camps during WWII.
Maybe they shouldn't have rolled over and gone along with the mandatory buyback of semi-automatic rifles back in '96?
Boltactions are still functional, the real issue is the lack of will to use them.
This part is just to desensitize the population. The military taking "sick" people to camps has to be seen as normal before they can start taking "could make us all sick!" people.
it isnt only sick people its 'close contacts' . theyve gone fulll bore stalinism in one quick year.
I swear to God leftists have a raging boner for throwing people into camps
Lenin: Throw them in camps!
Stalin: Throw them in camps!
Hitler: Throw them in camps!
FDR: Throw them in camps!
Mao: Throw them in camps!
Winnie the Xi: Throw them in camps!
It’s also Aboriginals living in remote communities that I had never even heard of before this week…
That makes it EVEN EASIER…
Let me put it to you this way, as a “huwhite”, urban-ish Australian, the people in these communities are as foreign to me as they are to you. It just so happens that we share the same landmass, and arguably country…
Thus, it is INCREDIBLY easy to “other” them, and dehumanize them, as the media is currently doing…
There’s an ABC series called Stateless and another one called Maralinga. Both show fictionalised accounts of things that really happened, out there, in the last 60 years, which are relevant to this…
I would recommend checking them out, if you can. See also Pine Gap and The Code (series one). All ABC (Australia), surprisingly…
That reads like Holocaust with a new name, so they can own land nobody wants.
I don't speak Australian, so maybe I'm just not picking up on his tone here, but it sounds like he is talking about the results of a retaliatory strike against terrorists in a foreign land rather than removing citizens' livelihoods. No compassion, not even a hint of "We're so sorry but..."
See my comment above, to, uhh, try to make sense of that…
It’s deliberate. It’s all VERY deliberate. As is everything else Gunner has said in the last few days or so…
He clearly has a plan here. As does the whole ALP and media cabal, more broadly…
About 18 years ago the city built what appears to be a multi-layer, multi-person gallows, called "Art" off one side of our most prominent bridge. Since it's creation we have heard our elders talk of the abomination akin to foresight, as to where the instigators want to be hung from. Their sentiment seems closer to realization now, then when they spent our taxes to build it. And then fucking told us that we had to call it art. NO, IT"S FUCKING PIPES AT 90* ANGLES FOR $28ml!
Wait, is this Melbourne..??! You mean the red poles thing..?
Na, bro. I'm in the US. Interesting how these retards think alike...
"At least we made a pretty place for them to hang us from"
--You ever see the old computer screen savers where the pipes lace all over the place? Yeah, that!
We should be calling this out for what it is and not giving them nuclear submarines…
It certainly feels like the good ol' days of propping up juntas and dictators because they were anti-communist and we'll just overlook how they treat their own people.
Except, I'm not even convinced Australia would be willing to side with us in a conflict with China.
They're certainly both on the same page when it comes to building gulags/camps. Doesn't the CCP already have massive control over Australia? I thought they were pretty blatant about it, but I might be getting Australia mixed up with Canada.
Yeah, you’re right, it’s Aus…
Also Canada, particularly BC/West Coast…
Also NZ, perhaps equally if not more (blatantly) so!!
Propping up authoritarian dictators in too-hot lands that have no value to them is a long-established American passtime! Don't mess with tradition!
They're only nuclear powered, no nuclear weapons. We have a common interest in holding back China.
So how do nuclear powered but not nuclear armed submarines help them do that?
We also won’t get them for like, a decade at this point, if they build them new… By which time the tech will have been superseded, and… Well, uh, you can guess what else MIGHT have happened by then… So it’s pretty much entirely pointless, really! 🤦🏻♂️
Longer range, harder to detect, the usual submarine stuff.
I heard a rumor somewhere that fuel costs money... not sure tho
The Chinese vassal state is coming along nicely.
There’s… A lot to unpack here.
Those people will almost all (in fact almost certainly every single one) be Indigenous, which means…
Here we have a “leftist” leader rounding up the Abos, AGAIN, displacing them from their communities, and using the army to send them to camps. Again!!
This has all happened before (see: Aboriginal “missions” and the Stolen Generations. Just like Canada. Just with different names for it.), and it will all happen again…
I should also add: Gunner is announcing this from Darwin (I presume) which is as far away from where I am as New York is from Cali…
Where this is actually happening is as far away from me as Chicago is from LA, but, importantly, it is also as far away from Darwin as, I dunno, Vegas is from LA..? Maybe even further. The NT is huge, sparsely populated, and governed very paternalistically from its capital.
I hate to say “always has been”, but that…
So… That’s important. I understand what is going on, because I’m Australian, see Australian news and consume Australian media. Politically, though, and physically? There is almost literally nothing I can do about this, apart from to shame and share it online, raise awareness, and fight to prevent this from “spreading” to our states, as it almost certainly will, if the ALP (Gunner’s party. Like our version of the Demonrats, but much, much more “left wing”…) and other vested interests get their way… 😒
Having a hard time following your distance comparisons.
When we talk on the scale of NY and Cali, LA and Vegas are right next to each other.
In non-North-American distance units, the distance from LA to Vegas is untenably far, like hearing of exotic lands in the far off yonder that you may one day see, one day. The distance from NY to LA, by contrast, is effectively an impossible concept, infinite in range, like saying "The moon", it's just somewhere that will never, ever be reached.
Remember that to the rest of the world, the USA and Canada's states and provinces, individually, are effectively larger than most countries. We're positively massive, and our sense of scale is complete off compared to theirs. What to us is a long-ish daily commute, to them is something they might do once per year. My daily commute at one point was longer than going through two countries in Europe, and I thought nothing of it. I had relatives from Europe come over, who didn't inform me, because where they were visiting was two hours away, and to them that just seemed like an insane, impassible distance to drive over to say hello.
So what they're saying is that to the beaurocrats, the place they're oppressing is effectively another planet, but to this poster, it's more like hearing of something a country or two over, much more imminent, even if still quite divorced from their life.
Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it.
Driving LA to Vegas when there is no traffic is just a couple of hours. Not the kind of trip I'd like to make often, but you hear of it being done often enough. Meanwhile to NY, we're talking a couple of days. No one does that unless they're on an adventure, or a cross country truck driver.
Two hours away seems like such a joke. A cousin of mine who lived two hours away was getting married, and wanted help preparing stuff, and also threw a number of pre-wedding and post-wedding parties, in addition to the wedding itself, and I drove back and forth for all of them. Seemed like I went there about 10 times over two months. Wasn't a big deal at all. To have relatives who you don't see often staying only two hours away and not wanting to visit? Wow.
Your perspective makes me feel really sorry for Europeans. At one point I was going to see a medical specialist monthly which was ~4 hours away. I'd leave early in the morning, and come back in the afternoon. I cannot say I enjoyed the travel, but it was better than the alternative. So the European would just stay home, or take a chance with a local quack because there was no one else within their tiny country? Wow, just wow.
To your latter point, I think (and somewhat from experience, in Germany), it’s more that everything in Europe is generally concentrated in a smaller space, specifically because the countries are, for the most part, smaller…
So unless you’re way out in a rural area, say, in a larger country such as Ukraine or Poland (or even a village in Spain, for example), you’re just never that far from those services…
There’s also the cultural difference that fast international trains, slower, regional trains, ferries of all sorts, riverboats and buses everywhere else, are almost completely ubiquitous, even in a relatively poorer country such as Turkey (from experience), as is some form of “universal” healthcare, even in somewhere like Russia, so… The situation you describe simply does not usually happen, simply because it does not need to.
This has been my experience in several euro countries, both EU and non-EU. YMMV.
It's not necessarily being far from services. In the US, the large cities are going to have practically every kind of service you're looking for. However most "experts" are little more than parrots who cannot deal with complex scenarios. If you're having a serious issue, and an expert that is actually better than the rest is one state over, then the travel is worth it.
But if your mindset is to only look at something local, and traveling to another state/country is like going to another planet, then you purposely close yourself off of some better options that may exist.
Ok, fine. Sure. All I can say is that just isn’t how healthcare works, in other places. Sometimes you can choose your specialist, but, in the VAST majority of cases, in the public system, which most people will use, so as to avoid paying thousands of dollars out of pocket, you simply can’t usually do that.
It depends where I live. But say, hypothetically, I live in… Brisbane. I decide, for whatever reason, that I want to see a doctor in Sydney, which is a 10+ hour drive away, because I think they are better. In the public system I can’t do that, because it’s not in my “catchment area”…
Hell, in some states, if you live on the north side of the city, you have to go to the PUBLIC hospital on the north side, not the one on the south side. Because again, catchments. Otherwise the perceived “best” hospitals and doctors will be completely overwhelmed. Again, this only applies to the PUBLIC system. It also applies to PUBLIC schools. Though not universities, of course…
The rest of the world does not operate on the American model. That’s the fundamental “disconnect”, here, I think. What you’re used to, simply isn’t how it works, in the vast majority of the rest of the world, including Australia.
Yeah that’s… Sort of what I meant.
The state I live in is the size of Ireland. Or like, New England, maybe, in the US..?
The Territory, where this is happening, is, by comparison, I think legit larger than Texas. So that’s larger than almost any European country. And this happening on one end of that “territory”, while the man announcing it sits, in the lap of luxury, at the other end.
But it’s so far away from me as to be, as you say “another country”. Like how distant Moscow would seem from say, Paris. Or New York and LA, as I said…
That was what I was going for…
Darwin and these communities are in the same territory, but on either end of it, which is fucking massive… Not sure quite how massive, but probably around the size of Texas. But bigger than California…
I guess that’s what I was going for. “Dallas to Atlanta”, perhaps, if you prefer…
Of course it wasn't a 'conspiracy theory'.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-09/mining-camp-designers-plan-covid-19-quarantine-hub-in-wa/100119364
They were openly discussing their construction over six months ago! Covid concentration camps were ALWAYS the plan.
A twist:
AUS Military trains inhabitants, takes back government and hangs the tyrants after a 3 month long trial. At which point, China pulls most all of its businesses connected to the CCP out of AUS.
If the vaccines worked, the fear would stop and the new world order might be slowed down.
They don't want that.
So I have an Aussie friend when I ask him about all the Covid stuff seems to just stick with "mr neutral" and not wanting to take sides.....
Is this totally legit so I could use it to really stick it to him :P? or is he going to give me some answer about hwo these are not technically really concentration camps.... I guess I am asking just how legit is this... or are we hyping them up as concentration camps?
I couldn't say. All I can point at is videos like that, plus that they went from being new arrival quarantine facilities to general quarantine facilities for native Australians, so by definition, concentration camps.
Second, keep in mind that many German people either didn't know, or were in denial of Jewish concentration camps, sometimes in their own towns. And that Americans celebrated interning Japanese Americans in camps during WWII.