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"My response to this is to suspend judgment for six months": Jordan "get the damned vaccine" Peterson on a viewer's discomfort over government WuFlu mandates (youtu.be)
posted 4 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq 4 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq +23 / -0
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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

The question is a "mind question" on whether one should wear masks if you think doing so is participating in a lie:

I feel like being forced to wear masks is a violation of personal rights, but I want to respect the rights of businesses to decide what they require. How do I act? I feel weak. As you say, I feel if I don't stop wearing them I'm participating in a lie, and if I don't stop there's no end.

The question before (which I suspect the questioner was referring to when he says "as you say") was related to pornography, where in his answer he says the following:

I think repeatedly engaging in a behavior that you judge yourself to be morally reprehensible is a form of performative contradiction which is the acting out of a lie, and I suspect you know that or you wouldn't be asking the question.

Basically the same question in two different contexts, yet the "safe" question gets the straightforward answer and the one that might get him kicked off youtube and uninvited from cocktail parties gets the Tim Pool "it's complicated" treatment.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Honestly at this point he met my expectations.

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– ailurus 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Yeah...

This would have been an understandable take in May 2020, maybe June 2020 but no later than that. It's been nearly a year and a half now. 18 months of violated rights, artificially shut down economies, lives put on hold, etc. for virtually no measurable benefit. To say we need to suspend judgement for another 6 months is absurd.

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– Benevolentdictator 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Someone pointed out the other day that Trudeau added something like one trillion dollars to the national debt over COVID without any tangible benefit and without any new infrastructure or assets going forward.

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– Assassin47 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Delta variant is here. We just need six more months to flatten the curve.

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– Homopratensis2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Agree.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

"We stumbled by not too badly" when the police arrested people for going to the beach or holding church services.

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– Kaarous 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

It baffles me that anyone thinks that he's anything other than blatantly fake right. What an absolute fraud.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Has he ever claimed to be on the right or "conservative"? Or does he just believe right-wingers ought to be able to have bank accounts even if they aren't allowed to attend "free speech" conferences.

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– Hoofa 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I think we have a delta variant of TDS - fukken Covid Derrangement Syndrome

It's the exact same desperation for narrative control and cultural hegemony. It's the exact same Liberal virus under a different name. By any normal measure, Jordan Peterson is one of the best establishment Right Wing figures, but he is still a Liberal.

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– Homopratensis2 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

The guy is and always has been highly dubious IMO.

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– Homopratensis2 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Guy is on drugs. A lot of what he says is good. But some is not, IMHO. I certainly do not recommend him to anyone.

I also dislike his style in dialog. Like Ben Shapiro he attempts to win arguments by piling on stuff faster than you can parse it. When you finally do get around you find it is not nearly as strong of an argument as he makes it seem.

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– Benevolentdictator 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He also can't answer a simple question concisely and with brevity without getting lost in a long soliloquy that has very little to do with the question posed.

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– Homopratensis2 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Exactly.

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– novanleon 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Jordan Peterson, for all his insight into human nature and the threat posed by Marxism and controlled speech, is naive when it comes to current-day political issues.

He doesn't understand the degree to which ALL Western institutions have been corrupted. He doesn't understand the very present and immediate threat represented by those currently in power. Despite being the victim of slander and misrepresentation by the media himself, he still trusts much of what they say when it comes to topics he himself isn't intimately familiar with (I believe there was a term for this type of cognitive bias... not sure). Somehow he still cannot believe that Democrats and the Left are so corrupt that they'd stoop to rigging an election on a mass level, or that it's even possible even if they wanted to (showing his ignorance of the American electoral system). Likewise, he can't comprehend the mass manipulation and drive for power motivating the Covid narrative.

It's one thing to be wise and have insight related to psychology and human nature... it's a very different (and very frightening) thing to recognize the true nature of the battlefield that we're currently standing on.

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– novanleon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you! I was wracking by brain and couldn’t remember what it was called. :)

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– Hoofa 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well, he is a rejected figure of the elites. The fact that he's trying to keep the structure intact, or thinks that he should be keeping the system working should be on everyone's minds.

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– subbookkeeper 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I'm not sure where OP got his quote from, he elaborated reasonably well on the question and answered the question to an individual.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

not sure where OP got his quote from

The video. He says "wait six months" twice:

  • First time
  • Second time

Mind you this video is from three weeks ago, not 15 months ago. So what he is really asking is that someone suspend disbelief for almost 2 years.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

He's supposed to be an "expert" in totalitarian governments...

There's blindspots and then there's "expert in the color blue fails to remark upon the sky after seeing it for the first time"

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