Not teaching proven false ideologies is separate from freedom of expression. We also no longer teach phrenology at schools, are we stifling free speech in doing so? This idea that we have to kowtow to idiots simply because they claim victimhood is peak academia currently.
It's one thing if a senior high school social studies class is discussing CRT because it's a topic in the news and going over both sides, but "critical race theory" isn't being discussed critically or as a theory.
Friend/enemy. Once you know who your friends and enemies are you make up the arguments so your enemies are in the wrong and you're in the right.
Same reason why "my body, my choice" for abortion but not for mandatory vaccines: it's all sales pitches from used car salesmen trying to get you to buy a jalopy.
We ban pseudoscience and crackpot theories from being taught as fact in schools all the time without it being a freedom of expression issue. We wouldn't allow a Klansman to teach a class on racial hierarchy, so why should we allow a CRT peddler to do the same just because their hierarchy is different?
The problem isn't "Can we ban pseudoscience from being taught in class?", but "Who gets to decide what is pseudoscience?" Generally it's people in the field and this works well. However, critical race theory is different because there's a moral dimension. The result is that critical theorists are incapable of looking at their field objectively and can't be trusted to detect pseudoscience in their field.
Government run schools aren't really a bastion of free speech, no. You'll learn what we tell you to learn. Doesn't mean someone isn't a "genuine proponent" of free speech.
Ideas have to be refuted. I don’t see why so many seem to only care about freedom of expression when they agree with the ideas being silenced. Freedom of expression has to be a principle not a tactic.
The issue is the current climate in the institutions doesn't even allow critical theory to be refuted because these same critical theorists and their ilk make it so that even so much as saying "I'm colorblind" can get you censured at best and completely blackballed out of your profession at worst, and God help you if you draw the ire of social media.
The wokeists have made it so the average person can't even have a chance at refuting them. If some people think banning CRT is the only option left I don't blame them* since it's clear we don't even see "free expression" on campuses and elsewhere anyway.
Nevermind the question of what definition he's using for "free expression." I'd say I'm for "free expression" but I'm sure glad we have laws protecting against, say, fraud by misrepresentation. Would that mean I'm not truly for free expression by his interpretation of the term?
*we have to be really careful here, critical theory and the rest of the bunk ideology extends well past race and I worry the focus on CRT now that it's becoming a mainstream buzzword overshadows the rest of what CRT is but a small part, leaving people to get rid of CRT and thinking "problem's solved!" without noticing they only cut off one head of the woke hydra.
No one is saying we should never mention the words CRT. We are against teachers being required (as if most of them are unwilling) to instruct in a way that adheres to CRT. It's like this retard walked into a conversation and heard two words and decided to interject with his own opinion.
By all means, make it a segment of a course the psychology of cults. Also another course on conspiracy theories and hoaxes, and their role in fomenting genocide.
Critical theory and everything derived from it is completely incompatible with free expression, therefore banning it is not a violation of free expression.
No one is banning people from espousing your crazy racialism, we're stopping you from institutionalizing it into every single establishment structure on Earth, and then governing society by it.
I don't want to ban people from espousing communism.
I do want to stop communists from implementing communism at my bank and "redistributing" my saving's account to "more just and equitable causes to support the proletariat".
Not teaching proven false ideologies is separate from freedom of expression. We also no longer teach phrenology at schools, are we stifling free speech in doing so? This idea that we have to kowtow to idiots simply because they claim victimhood is peak academia currently.
It's one thing if a senior high school social studies class is discussing CRT because it's a topic in the news and going over both sides, but "critical race theory" isn't being discussed critically or as a theory.
The Creationism debate and the "teach the controversy!" side losing has set the precedent that we aren't required to "go over both sides".
I should have read other comments before making my own, I basically copied yours. More double-think from shitlibs, it's all so tiresome.
Friend/enemy. Once you know who your friends and enemies are you make up the arguments so your enemies are in the wrong and you're in the right.
Same reason why "my body, my choice" for abortion but not for mandatory vaccines: it's all sales pitches from used car salesmen trying to get you to buy a jalopy.
The AEI also attacked Ted Cruz for criticizing the army's ridiculous woke ads.
It seems to be nothing more than a front for the weapons manufacturers.
And the makers of oxycontin
We ban pseudoscience and crackpot theories from being taught as fact in schools all the time without it being a freedom of expression issue. We wouldn't allow a Klansman to teach a class on racial hierarchy, so why should we allow a CRT peddler to do the same just because their hierarchy is different?
The problem isn't "Can we ban pseudoscience from being taught in class?", but "Who gets to decide what is pseudoscience?" Generally it's people in the field and this works well. However, critical race theory is different because there's a moral dimension. The result is that critical theorists are incapable of looking at their field objectively and can't be trusted to detect pseudoscience in their field.
He deadass seems to think Ben Shapiro wants to ban Ben Shapiro criticizing critical race theory...
What a moron.
Free Speech Absolutism does not work.
It technically does, if you remove women and faggots from society.
Government run schools aren't really a bastion of free speech, no. You'll learn what we tell you to learn. Doesn't mean someone isn't a "genuine proponent" of free speech.
The issue is the current climate in the institutions doesn't even allow critical theory to be refuted because these same critical theorists and their ilk make it so that even so much as saying "I'm colorblind" can get you censured at best and completely blackballed out of your profession at worst, and God help you if you draw the ire of social media.
The wokeists have made it so the average person can't even have a chance at refuting them. If some people think banning CRT is the only option left I don't blame them* since it's clear we don't even see "free expression" on campuses and elsewhere anyway.
Nevermind the question of what definition he's using for "free expression." I'd say I'm for "free expression" but I'm sure glad we have laws protecting against, say, fraud by misrepresentation. Would that mean I'm not truly for free expression by his interpretation of the term?
*we have to be really careful here, critical theory and the rest of the bunk ideology extends well past race and I worry the focus on CRT now that it's becoming a mainstream buzzword overshadows the rest of what CRT is but a small part, leaving people to get rid of CRT and thinking "problem's solved!" without noticing they only cut off one head of the woke hydra.
No one is saying we should never mention the words CRT. We are against teachers being required (as if most of them are unwilling) to instruct in a way that adheres to CRT. It's like this retard walked into a conversation and heard two words and decided to interject with his own opinion.
By all means, make it a segment of a course the psychology of cults. Also another course on conspiracy theories and hoaxes, and their role in fomenting genocide.
Critical theory and everything derived from it is completely incompatible with free expression, therefore banning it is not a violation of free expression.
No one is banning people from espousing your crazy racialism, we're stopping you from institutionalizing it into every single establishment structure on Earth, and then governing society by it.
I don't want to ban people from espousing communism.
I do want to stop communists from implementing communism at my bank and "redistributing" my saving's account to "more just and equitable causes to support the proletariat".
Know the difference.
I guess we should also be teaching kids to question the Holocaust in public schools then, too.
You don't teach ideological nonsense at publicly funded institutions.
If you disagree with that statement, kindly die.