It's crazy how they fucking love the jackboot. I'm still wierded out by them wanting to fuck Cuomo for literally murdering grandma as a sign of strength.
Like, I'm starting to think that Trump actually could have resolved most of this by acting like a tyrant and declaring an insurrection act. If he had mass arrested people, I actually think a lot of progressives would have just accepted it as him being "presidential" at this point.
Like, I'm starting to think that Trump actually could have resolved most of this by acting like a tyrant and declaring an insurrection act.
Yes, he could have. His enemies were at their most vulnerable when they were burning, looting and murdering. Taking direct action against them then would have forced the Democrats to either make themselves targets by siding with the terrorists or disavow their own brownshirts and leave them to be annihilated.
Upon further reflection, I don't think that's really true. Many of us probably would still be under mass lockdown due to the need to suppress any Trump advocacy. The war would just start from a different direction is all. I'm not sure it could have been avoided.
...You know, it really sucks to be a night owl sometimes. As we know, the covids only come out at night. Why not cater to the minority, and make the lockdown from 8am to 5pm instead?
Support is manufactured through media manipulation and leading questions during polls. Most people consider the government is acting im good faith and won't vocally oppose it while sneaking some human contacts in secret despite the shaming and finger-wagging of zealous pro-lockdown people.
It's not really different than what's going on in most of the US, save a few red states with liberty-minded governors.
You can clearly see the initial effect for a week or two in October before it becomes unsustainable and transmission goes up again.
I supported effective mesures for a few weeks at first when I naively thought cases would be tracked and isolated like in Taiwan, but it became obvious in April the government did not intend to take anything seriously enough to contain the virus.
They do mitigation and fail. The people that respect rules at the expense of their mental health and social life are getting fooled. They can't even make their own staff keep their n95 mask on all day in elderly care facilities ( journalists somehow remembered to do actual journalism at some point and checked how the staff behaved when they thought the cameras weren't rolling ).
What government is doing is imposing increasingly everlasting harsh restrictions on everyone willing to comply to offset their failing at keepimg sick people isolated for a week or two. Because it's totally rational to lock 8.5m people because you didn't like the optics of locking a few hundreds and shut borders when it was time to.
( Who is stupid enough to believe sick people won't break quarantine if you don't enforce it? Our government is. )
It's obvious the proclamed support is disconected from what people actually do ( they increasingly break social distancing and visit ban rules since Octobre lockdown fatigue set in ). Governments seem to think they can abuse lockdowns and expect consistent compliance. That's antithetical to human nature.
We have been in either a lockdown or under restrictions since the second week of March 2020 for a virus with a 99.8% recovery rate. People consciously or subconsciously know the threat level dpnsen't match the response. We never did this insane infringement on basic liberties for the 1918 flu ( 10 times deadlier ) or the previous bad flus with a 0.2% fatality. Yet we keep escalating restrictions for thos virus.
Restaurents, gyms, most "at risk" activities and visiting your own fking family or friends, evem outside, has been illegal again since October. People's morale is collapsing despite all the selective faux uplifting docile compliant "on the street random person asked" on TV.
All non-essential buisness got shut down since Christmass with no guarantee of re-opening ( government said second week of Febuary, but they also said "two weeks" for the Octobre lockdown that never ended ).
Nobody with a brain and understanding of human nature thinks banning people from seeing their family and friends is sustainable. Especially not when the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" deadline is always a lie.
Compliance decreases after a few days or weeks unless you directly threaten people to make them comply.
So now the government is forcing compliance by removing plausible deniability to sneak for some human interraction between 8pm and 5am.
Oh and since totalitarian mesures are totally cool now, the hard lockdown and curfew is applied to administrative regions that don't have enough cases or hospitalized patients to justify a lockdown ( Côte-Nord, Gaspésie, Bas-Saint-Laurent ).
The reasoning? "We are not immune to an EXlosIOn of cases!" A logic that legitimizes an eternal lockdown for everything.
I supported effective mesures for a few weeks at first when I naively thought cases would be tracked and isolated like in Taiwan, but it became obvious in April the government did not intend to take anything seriously enough to contain the virus.
This was me as well, but my approval for it broke before the two weeks were even up, because of the two medical dunces in DC. Specifically, it was when Dr. Birx was giving one of the daily status updates (before the press canceled that because it was helping Trump too much), and then she went down in infamy to me.
I cant even remember WHAT they asked her, just that she gave an answer, then said with a smile on her face and absolutely giddy that "We in the medical community have never had this kind of power before."
Right on the spot, I could feel my mood change as I said "We made a mistake."
I suppose the only GOOD thing about all of this is that while my state has a Dem governor, the rest of the government are Republicans, so while she rages over it, she is largely toothless in her response and can get away with only the bare minimum of restrictions.
We have been in either a lockdown or under restrictions since the second week of March 2020 for a virus with a 99.8% recovery rate. People consciously or subconsciously know the threat level dpnsen't match the response. We never did this insane infringement on basic liberties for the 1918 flu ( 10 times deadlier ) or the previous bad flus with a 0.2% fatality. Yet we keep escalating restrictions for thos virus.
This is, I think, the biggest thing that undermines this. People can see it's not some Black Death leaving people dead in the streets, so they know the response doesn't square with the threat.
I keep trying to explain this to people but they don't understand. They genuinely believe that it'll stop "once the virus is under control". It's extremely frustrating.
While I was walking my dogs, I witnessed the #Montreal #police pull over a car for the crime of being out past the 8 p.m. curfew. The police tried to obstruct my ability to film them by flashing their flash lights into my phones camera.
We've had 8 to 5 curfews in Germany since the middle of December and they'll last at least until the end of January, although they'll probably extend the lockdoan again. At least the police aren't going full retard like that in my city.
although they'll probably extend the lockdoan again
That's how it's been in BC. Late-November "2 week" restrictions are put in place, mid-December extended by one month, then a few days ago they're extended by a month again.
Yea they've been tightening the screws since early November here. Whenever they extend it they add more restrictions.
First a soft lockdown, then a hard lockdown, then limits on what people can do at home, prohibition on fireworks and curfews.
The latest new rule is that if you live in an area with a high rate of infections you're not allowed to go further than 15km from your home. Although there's at least some hesitation from state governors and a police union said they couldn't possibly enforce that.
When this whole thing was still starting, I half jokingly said all these restrictions reminded me of a character from the Red Lantern comics. He was from a species where physical contact was forbidden, to the extent that his species lived in individual pods and always wore full pressure suits when they went outside. He was arrested and expelled from his society because he was caught arranging a meeting with another person in real life. I think there was even something about being supposed to wear a mask/the suit even when video calling someone.
It's starting to seem far too likely to think of it as even partially a joke anymore, though.
Progressives are jizzing themselves. Pelosi probably has CCTV footage playing on the big screen for her home theater with saddle delux vibrator seats.
It's crazy how they fucking love the jackboot. I'm still wierded out by them wanting to fuck Cuomo for literally murdering grandma as a sign of strength.
Like, I'm starting to think that Trump actually could have resolved most of this by acting like a tyrant and declaring an insurrection act. If he had mass arrested people, I actually think a lot of progressives would have just accepted it as him being "presidential" at this point.
Yes, he could have. His enemies were at their most vulnerable when they were burning, looting and murdering. Taking direct action against them then would have forced the Democrats to either make themselves targets by siding with the terrorists or disavow their own brownshirts and leave them to be annihilated.
Do you recall how all of a sudden he was being Presidential when they thought he'd go all-in versus Syria?
Pretty clear illustration, even back then, that they don't care which side is in, just so long as it does what it's told...
"Those big beautiful bombs"
Which network head was the one who used the word "beautiful" three times in a sentence describe that night?
Correct.
We would ironically be MORE FREE THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW under "tyranny and martial law" set by him to sort out the treason.
Upon further reflection, I don't think that's really true. Many of us probably would still be under mass lockdown due to the need to suppress any Trump advocacy. The war would just start from a different direction is all. I'm not sure it could have been avoided.
I curse you and your family and your pets for putting that horrific image into my head.
...You know, it really sucks to be a night owl sometimes. As we know, the covids only come out at night. Why not cater to the minority, and make the lockdown from 8am to 5pm instead?
I believe there's intent to bring something similar to Ontario as well
Is this because Quebec is more likely to reject the tyranny or because they love the tyranny?
Support is manufactured through media manipulation and leading questions during polls. Most people consider the government is acting im good faith and won't vocally oppose it while sneaking some human contacts in secret despite the shaming and finger-wagging of zealous pro-lockdown people.
It's not really different than what's going on in most of the US, save a few red states with liberty-minded governors.
You can clearly see the initial effect for a week or two in October before it becomes unsustainable and transmission goes up again.
I supported effective mesures for a few weeks at first when I naively thought cases would be tracked and isolated like in Taiwan, but it became obvious in April the government did not intend to take anything seriously enough to contain the virus.
They do mitigation and fail. The people that respect rules at the expense of their mental health and social life are getting fooled. They can't even make their own staff keep their n95 mask on all day in elderly care facilities ( journalists somehow remembered to do actual journalism at some point and checked how the staff behaved when they thought the cameras weren't rolling ).
What government is doing is imposing increasingly everlasting harsh restrictions on everyone willing to comply to offset their failing at keepimg sick people isolated for a week or two. Because it's totally rational to lock 8.5m people because you didn't like the optics of locking a few hundreds and shut borders when it was time to.
( Who is stupid enough to believe sick people won't break quarantine if you don't enforce it? Our government is. )
It's obvious the proclamed support is disconected from what people actually do ( they increasingly break social distancing and visit ban rules since Octobre lockdown fatigue set in ). Governments seem to think they can abuse lockdowns and expect consistent compliance. That's antithetical to human nature.
We have been in either a lockdown or under restrictions since the second week of March 2020 for a virus with a 99.8% recovery rate. People consciously or subconsciously know the threat level dpnsen't match the response. We never did this insane infringement on basic liberties for the 1918 flu ( 10 times deadlier ) or the previous bad flus with a 0.2% fatality. Yet we keep escalating restrictions for thos virus.
Restaurents, gyms, most "at risk" activities and visiting your own fking family or friends, evem outside, has been illegal again since October. People's morale is collapsing despite all the selective faux uplifting docile compliant "on the street random person asked" on TV.
All non-essential buisness got shut down since Christmass with no guarantee of re-opening ( government said second week of Febuary, but they also said "two weeks" for the Octobre lockdown that never ended ).
Nobody with a brain and understanding of human nature thinks banning people from seeing their family and friends is sustainable. Especially not when the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" deadline is always a lie.
Compliance decreases after a few days or weeks unless you directly threaten people to make them comply.
So now the government is forcing compliance by removing plausible deniability to sneak for some human interraction between 8pm and 5am.
Oh and since totalitarian mesures are totally cool now, the hard lockdown and curfew is applied to administrative regions that don't have enough cases or hospitalized patients to justify a lockdown ( Côte-Nord, Gaspésie, Bas-Saint-Laurent ).
The reasoning? "We are not immune to an EXlosIOn of cases!" A logic that legitimizes an eternal lockdown for everything.
Mechanic's voice: "Well, there's you're problem!"
This was me as well, but my approval for it broke before the two weeks were even up, because of the two medical dunces in DC. Specifically, it was when Dr. Birx was giving one of the daily status updates (before the press canceled that because it was helping Trump too much), and then she went down in infamy to me.
I cant even remember WHAT they asked her, just that she gave an answer, then said with a smile on her face and absolutely giddy that "We in the medical community have never had this kind of power before."
Right on the spot, I could feel my mood change as I said "We made a mistake."
I suppose the only GOOD thing about all of this is that while my state has a Dem governor, the rest of the government are Republicans, so while she rages over it, she is largely toothless in her response and can get away with only the bare minimum of restrictions.
This is, I think, the biggest thing that undermines this. People can see it's not some Black Death leaving people dead in the streets, so they know the response doesn't square with the threat.
This shit will never end until [fedpost].
I keep trying to explain this to people but they don't understand. They genuinely believe that it'll stop "once the virus is under control". It's extremely frustrating.
https://twitter.com/grenouf/status/1348074930747936768
The tyranny is becoming so cliche that they have resorted to black helicopters spying on people in the middle of the night.
https://twitter.com/TheMarieOakes/status/1348103030831505410
This is fucking crazy. They're treating this like an air-raid or a hurricane.
We've had 8 to 5 curfews in Germany since the middle of December and they'll last at least until the end of January, although they'll probably extend the lockdoan again. At least the police aren't going full retard like that in my city.
That's how it's been in BC. Late-November "2 week" restrictions are put in place, mid-December extended by one month, then a few days ago they're extended by a month again.
Yea they've been tightening the screws since early November here. Whenever they extend it they add more restrictions.
First a soft lockdown, then a hard lockdown, then limits on what people can do at home, prohibition on fireworks and curfews.
The latest new rule is that if you live in an area with a high rate of infections you're not allowed to go further than 15km from your home. Although there's at least some hesitation from state governors and a police union said they couldn't possibly enforce that.
When this whole thing was still starting, I half jokingly said all these restrictions reminded me of a character from the Red Lantern comics. He was from a species where physical contact was forbidden, to the extent that his species lived in individual pods and always wore full pressure suits when they went outside. He was arrested and expelled from his society because he was caught arranging a meeting with another person in real life. I think there was even something about being supposed to wear a mask/the suit even when video calling someone.
It's starting to seem far too likely to think of it as even partially a joke anymore, though.