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MARTIAL LAW: Quebec now under police rule. From 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. no-one is allowed onto the streets. Police cars are driving through neighborhoods, sirens blaring, scanning for dissidents to arrest. $6,000 fines (twitter.com)
posted 5 years ago by YesMovement 5 years ago by YesMovement +64 / -0
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– TentElephant 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Is this because Quebec is more likely to reject the tyranny or because they love the tyranny?

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– RoulerBleu 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

Support is manufactured through media manipulation and leading questions during polls. Most people consider the government is acting im good faith and won't vocally oppose it while sneaking some human contacts in secret despite the shaming and finger-wagging of zealous pro-lockdown people.

It's not really different than what's going on in most of the US, save a few red states with liberty-minded governors.

You can clearly see the initial effect for a week or two in October before it becomes unsustainable and transmission goes up again.

I supported effective mesures for a few weeks at first when I naively thought cases would be tracked and isolated like in Taiwan, but it became obvious in April the government did not intend to take anything seriously enough to contain the virus.

They do mitigation and fail. The people that respect rules at the expense of their mental health and social life are getting fooled. They can't even make their own staff keep their n95 mask on all day in elderly care facilities ( journalists somehow remembered to do actual journalism at some point and checked how the staff behaved when they thought the cameras weren't rolling ).

What government is doing is imposing increasingly everlasting harsh restrictions on everyone willing to comply to offset their failing at keepimg sick people isolated for a week or two. Because it's totally rational to lock 8.5m people because you didn't like the optics of locking a few hundreds and shut borders when it was time to.

( Who is stupid enough to believe sick people won't break quarantine if you don't enforce it? Our government is. )

It's obvious the proclamed support is disconected from what people actually do ( they increasingly break social distancing and visit ban rules since Octobre lockdown fatigue set in ). Governments seem to think they can abuse lockdowns and expect consistent compliance. That's antithetical to human nature.

We have been in either a lockdown or under restrictions since the second week of March 2020 for a virus with a 99.8% recovery rate. People consciously or subconsciously know the threat level dpnsen't match the response. We never did this insane infringement on basic liberties for the 1918 flu ( 10 times deadlier ) or the previous bad flus with a 0.2% fatality. Yet we keep escalating restrictions for thos virus.

Restaurents, gyms, most "at risk" activities and visiting your own fking family or friends, evem outside, has been illegal again since October. People's morale is collapsing despite all the selective faux uplifting docile compliant "on the street random person asked" on TV.

All non-essential buisness got shut down since Christmass with no guarantee of re-opening ( government said second week of Febuary, but they also said "two weeks" for the Octobre lockdown that never ended ).

Nobody with a brain and understanding of human nature thinks banning people from seeing their family and friends is sustainable. Especially not when the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" deadline is always a lie.

Compliance decreases after a few days or weeks unless you directly threaten people to make them comply.

So now the government is forcing compliance by removing plausible deniability to sneak for some human interraction between 8pm and 5am.

Oh and since totalitarian mesures are totally cool now, the hard lockdown and curfew is applied to administrative regions that don't have enough cases or hospitalized patients to justify a lockdown ( Côte-Nord, Gaspésie, Bas-Saint-Laurent ).

The reasoning? "We are not immune to an EXlosIOn of cases!" A logic that legitimizes an eternal lockdown for everything.

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– Gizortnik 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Most people consider the government is acting im good faith

Mechanic's voice: "Well, there's you're problem!"

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– TheModernDaVinci 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

I supported effective mesures for a few weeks at first when I naively thought cases would be tracked and isolated like in Taiwan, but it became obvious in April the government did not intend to take anything seriously enough to contain the virus.

This was me as well, but my approval for it broke before the two weeks were even up, because of the two medical dunces in DC. Specifically, it was when Dr. Birx was giving one of the daily status updates (before the press canceled that because it was helping Trump too much), and then she went down in infamy to me.

I cant even remember WHAT they asked her, just that she gave an answer, then said with a smile on her face and absolutely giddy that "We in the medical community have never had this kind of power before."

Right on the spot, I could feel my mood change as I said "We made a mistake."

I suppose the only GOOD thing about all of this is that while my state has a Dem governor, the rest of the government are Republicans, so while she rages over it, she is largely toothless in her response and can get away with only the bare minimum of restrictions.

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– APDSmith 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

We have been in either a lockdown or under restrictions since the second week of March 2020 for a virus with a 99.8% recovery rate. People consciously or subconsciously know the threat level dpnsen't match the response. We never did this insane infringement on basic liberties for the 1918 flu ( 10 times deadlier ) or the previous bad flus with a 0.2% fatality. Yet we keep escalating restrictions for thos virus.

This is, I think, the biggest thing that undermines this. People can see it's not some Black Death leaving people dead in the streets, so they know the response doesn't square with the threat.

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