Very based. I can't benefit personally from this anymore since I got out of that hell, but I'm happy for the cooks still there doing all the work.
Of course, the details matter here. Will this transform the wages of being a cook into the same style that waiters get? How hard will it be for a cook looking for work to discover what his prospective employer's formal stance on tip sharing is? It is entirely up to the employer, right?
I was talking with some nurses just this weekend. "Yeah, I was making more as a server than I was as a nurse." "I made more as a bartender than as a nurse." "Some weekends I would make more than my entire week at the hospital."
Sure, let me cry crocodile tears for the poor wait staff. I'm sure it's not the case for everybody and there is the uncertainty of slow nights, but it if anyone could be tapped in that industry to give a lift to others...
Waiter at a local bar had a masters in a scientific field, made more working at the sports bar. Plus since he worked evenings/nights he could be home with the kids in the day while his wife worked her job.
I've had nasty arguments with people I know that work waitress jobs. They feel entititled to the customer paying the hidden fees of their wages instead of demanding their employer pay it. If they work at a good restaurant tips can bump your pay up significantly so of course they want to keep it all.
The thing waitresses miss in all of this is that they're just a face for the product made by other people. It's the same with sales and commission. They're ignoring the hard work of others to claim they deserve the extra wages because the carried a tray, filled some drinks, and spend their smoke breaks complaining about awful customers.
Unless you work at Dairy Queen or Shithole diner type places, wait staff make bank. Tipping culture is so crazy it’s overboard.
Almost all of my roommates I know who worked at a popular restaurant (something trendy that’s always busy) they were making MORE money than me and worked less hours.
It’s honestly messed up that a waiter often get more than the line cooks/other kitchen staff.
Tips should be pooled. Maybe to which percentage could vary, but everyone should be able to get in on the tips. People tip for the overall experience.
I worked bussing tables when I was 16. We actually got some of their tip money, but the actual waiters and waitresses made damn good money. They'd make more in tips on one weekend night than I made in a week.
One thing I figured out after a little while, on Saturday night they always wanted to go out and party after work. At the end of the night each one of them was expected to "deep clean" their tables. We're talking things like wiping off the seats and every little nook and cranny, refilling condiments, etc. Ten minutes per table of work, tops. I started getting them to pay me $10 per table to do it for them. I was making an extra $100-$200 every Saturday for an extra couple hours of work and they didn't care because they were still leaving with $400 bucks to go blow at the club.
Personally, I'd like to totally get rid of tips. It just seems so much easier when I've been in tip-free countries to not have to screw with it.
Why would you ever tip a waitress? As someone who worked as a busser in highschool and a line cook, waitresses are the greediest cunts alive who do very little work compared to those who don't get tipped and rarely share their tips. Bartenders are the only exception I'd give as they actually have to provide a social service.
Everyone here makes the same minimum wage, afaik (I think they got rid of the "student" exemption a while back, iirc), so there's no need to tip any more.
I've been to VAT tax and no-tip countries, they've got it right. Tips are bullshit all the way around, and working for tips is just as crappy as working for commission.
Because the tips should have always been spread to the back of the house people. Tipping a waitress is the equivalent of giving the person who does the least the most for no reason. Most line cooks make no tips despite having the heaviest work load, and bussers are always fucked because their tips are from greedy ass waitresses who would never tip the 15-20% they expect from each customer. Waitresses can bring in hundreds of dollars in cash on one night, sharing none of it, while their coworkers who did more work made maybe 70-80 dollars that same night. This allows everyone involved in the process to make the money paid for the experience instead of the frontman. It's a step in the right direction, which is to eliminate tips entirely and get rid of 'gratuity' billing.
So basically what everyplace does anyway. Most places have front of the house tip out to back of the house. They're just legalizing what was always the practice.
I wonder how those college educated commies will feel about "sharing" now that they're getting a taste of it.
My younger brother once worked as a pizza cook. I am 100% behind this move.
Very based. I can't benefit personally from this anymore since I got out of that hell, but I'm happy for the cooks still there doing all the work.
Of course, the details matter here. Will this transform the wages of being a cook into the same style that waiters get? How hard will it be for a cook looking for work to discover what his prospective employer's formal stance on tip sharing is? It is entirely up to the employer, right?
I was talking with some nurses just this weekend. "Yeah, I was making more as a server than I was as a nurse." "I made more as a bartender than as a nurse." "Some weekends I would make more than my entire week at the hospital."
Sure, let me cry crocodile tears for the poor wait staff. I'm sure it's not the case for everybody and there is the uncertainty of slow nights, but it if anyone could be tapped in that industry to give a lift to others...
Waiter at a local bar had a masters in a scientific field, made more working at the sports bar. Plus since he worked evenings/nights he could be home with the kids in the day while his wife worked her job.
I've had nasty arguments with people I know that work waitress jobs. They feel entititled to the customer paying the hidden fees of their wages instead of demanding their employer pay it. If they work at a good restaurant tips can bump your pay up significantly so of course they want to keep it all.
The thing waitresses miss in all of this is that they're just a face for the product made by other people. It's the same with sales and commission. They're ignoring the hard work of others to claim they deserve the extra wages because the carried a tray, filled some drinks, and spend their smoke breaks complaining about awful customers.
Unless you work at Dairy Queen or Shithole diner type places, wait staff make bank. Tipping culture is so crazy it’s overboard.
Almost all of my roommates I know who worked at a popular restaurant (something trendy that’s always busy) they were making MORE money than me and worked less hours.
It’s honestly messed up that a waiter often get more than the line cooks/other kitchen staff.
Tips should be pooled. Maybe to which percentage could vary, but everyone should be able to get in on the tips. People tip for the overall experience.
I worked bussing tables when I was 16. We actually got some of their tip money, but the actual waiters and waitresses made damn good money. They'd make more in tips on one weekend night than I made in a week.
One thing I figured out after a little while, on Saturday night they always wanted to go out and party after work. At the end of the night each one of them was expected to "deep clean" their tables. We're talking things like wiping off the seats and every little nook and cranny, refilling condiments, etc. Ten minutes per table of work, tops. I started getting them to pay me $10 per table to do it for them. I was making an extra $100-$200 every Saturday for an extra couple hours of work and they didn't care because they were still leaving with $400 bucks to go blow at the club.
Personally, I'd like to totally get rid of tips. It just seems so much easier when I've been in tip-free countries to not have to screw with it.
It always happened ya douche. That’s why you give cash to the waitress/waiter directly so they can pocket the money.
Why would you ever tip a waitress? As someone who worked as a busser in highschool and a line cook, waitresses are the greediest cunts alive who do very little work compared to those who don't get tipped and rarely share their tips. Bartenders are the only exception I'd give as they actually have to provide a social service.
Everyone here makes the same minimum wage, afaik (I think they got rid of the "student" exemption a while back, iirc), so there's no need to tip any more.
I've been to VAT tax and no-tip countries, they've got it right. Tips are bullshit all the way around, and working for tips is just as crappy as working for commission.
Can someone explain this to me and why it's good?
Because the tips should have always been spread to the back of the house people. Tipping a waitress is the equivalent of giving the person who does the least the most for no reason. Most line cooks make no tips despite having the heaviest work load, and bussers are always fucked because their tips are from greedy ass waitresses who would never tip the 15-20% they expect from each customer. Waitresses can bring in hundreds of dollars in cash on one night, sharing none of it, while their coworkers who did more work made maybe 70-80 dollars that same night. This allows everyone involved in the process to make the money paid for the experience instead of the frontman. It's a step in the right direction, which is to eliminate tips entirely and get rid of 'gratuity' billing.
So basically what everyplace does anyway. Most places have front of the house tip out to back of the house. They're just legalizing what was always the practice.
If the business gets its hands on the money, then the old standard of under-reporting tips and pocketing cash is going to go by the wayside quickly.
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