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posted 5 years ago by Smith1980 5 years ago by Smith1980 +17 / -0

So I guess it’s president Biden. Does anyone think Trump can win in court?

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– onetruephilosoraptor 33 points 5 years ago +33 / -0

If.Trump loses, it will be President Harris.

Trump will definitely fight this out to the bitter end. Will he win? I am not so sure at this moment.

All I know is that America has reached a point of no return. Half of the country will not trust the integrity of the election process regardless who wins in the end.

What I dread the most is the implementation of the COVID great reset plan proposed by the World Economic Forum.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/joe-biden-ties-great-reset

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– deleted 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0
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– xleb2 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

it will be President Harris.

The most frightening possible outcome, my god.

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– w-duranty6489 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

All the criminals go free, while FBI wiretaps everyone's phone looking for hitler.

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– M1919A2 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

And she'll assume office at the point to where she can be in for 10 years...

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– Yoshismasher22 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

No. America loses, and so does the rest of the world.

Say goodbye to any anything without progressive politics or Chinese influence, as it’s now definitely lost.

Wish I could be more positive, but the only thing to really do is cope now.

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– w-duranty6489 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Complete transformation into a communist clown world.

https://archive.vn/NPOBk thefederalist

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https://archive.vn/Dj6iJ Shizu @BepDelta

The No Game No Life light novels were considered child sexual exploitation in Australia and got banned, but cuties was approved and got a 15+ rating......

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CUTIES (2020) confirmed as MA15+ (Strong themes) by the Classification Review Board. On the 13th, Wendy Francis from the Australian Christian Lobby reported she had a meeting with Paul Fletcher MP and it was he who encouraged them to apply for a review.

https://archive.vn/JIOpb blog.jlist.com 15 Oct 2020 10:32:36 UTC

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Government Official Who Faced Backlash For Having “Anime Figurines” In Office Replaces Them With Life-Sized Donald Trump Cutout March 13, 2020 by NyanNet

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– CZcowboy 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Engraving the quote from Skynut “Born into a world without Anime. Where the sun doesn’t shine, there’s no sanity” into a handgun slide seems more appealing by the day

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– Piroko 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Nothing much, really.

Here's the score. Biden wins the presidency. He'll be replaced by Harris pretty quickly. Seems grim, right?

Wrong. See, the Dems don't have the Senate. No Senate, no court packing. Redistricting happens in 2021, so 2022 is a new set of House races. The 2022 Senate class isn't great, the GOP will be defending more with no good prospects for pickups until 2024. But, Dems will probably lose the house, so again, no court packing.

In 2024, President Harris will have failed to expand the court, will be unpopular with the far left, probably unpopular with the moderates, and be easily replaced by a younger Republican, maybe Don Jr.

In the meantime, the court will be chugging along doing its own thing like it typically does.

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– Lurker404 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

What does the senate look like after this election? As long as the Reps hold that they can at least block legislation (but not executive orders). That is if they stick together, which they often don't, unlike Dems.

Reps are on borrowed time. Every area Dems win, they control the elections. They control the elections, they control how many ballots turn up behind closed doors after the people have voted. Reps are going to lose one city at a time to Dems and never get them back. And who's going to donate time or money to Rep campaigns when they just sit idly by while their vote gets stolen?

Plus, the left is now going to rev up the propaganda, censorship and discrimination even more.

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– Piroko 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Reps are on borrowed time.

So are the democrats.

You don't seem to understand. The democratic party is not the party of its base.

For about 30 years, beginning with Bush Sr, the republican party was moving away from its base, at the direction of neoconservative morons. Those people are gone now. One way or another the right now at least understands that they were listening to the wrong people and saying the wrong things.

This same cycle began in earnest for the democrats with Obama. Obama was not a far leftist. I understand that some on the right see him that way but he wasn't a far leftist.

Bernie Sanders is to the democrats, what Pat Buchanan was to the republicans.

Biden will probably win, and Harris will probably get some time in office because Biden isn't mentally fit for the job.

But Harris won't be what the far left wants her to be. She won't because she's a political opportunist who merely talked like a zealot. Inside, there's just self interest.

There is a reckoning coming for the democratic party; they cannot hold it off forever, sooner or later there will be a consequence for trying to create a coalition between moderate liberals and radical progressives. High taxes drive moderates to go conservative faster than anything else in politics, because in the end it really is all about money, and the progressives want a lot of it.

Now, as for the internet...

Anyone who was thinking that a solution to the problems of the internet would come from the state, is a moron.

The internet's solutions will always be emergent, organic solutions. We've done a lot, but we haven't gone far enough. SubscribeStar is a start, Parler is a start. DotWin is a start. But we have to go to the next level, creating new competing CDNs and cloud hosting systems.

The internet remains ancapistan in literally all ways, including the ways that lead to monopolies.

Lastly, how do the republicans recover?

They need to concede that they lost the culture war on abortion. Trump turned them around on gay marriage, and that was a start, but ultimately the GOP does need to come to terms with the fact that they lost that war and cannot keep fighting it because it's a fight they can only ever manage to stalemate. It will sort itself out biologically.

As a party, they need to focus on a uniting message of nationalism, military non-interventionism, liberty, private gun ownership, and low taxes. And they need to shut down the occasional loon that bangs on about social security. Trump was right that entitlement programs are, broadly speaking, very popular with old people.

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– w-duranty6489 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

moderate liberals

They don't exist.

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– Piroko 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Well, no see that's where you're wrong.

Moderate liberals are people like, frankly, my parents.

I had a discussion with them pointing out all the radically progressive things Harris said, and their response was quite literally that they are confident that she's lying to the progressives, and that in the end she'll be another neolib corporate dem.

Which is exactly what they want because they don't trust the GOP to not touch medicare and social security.

This is mainstream boomer thinking.

And the thing is, I can't even say they're wrong.

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– w-duranty6489 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Harris will cuck out for progressives just like the "moderate liberals" aka useful idiots.

When your house burns and you get a bullet for no reason like Aaron Danielson and Lee Keltner, useful idiots like Harris and the all the "moderate liberals" pretend it's normal.

These are not "moderate liberals", they are spineless trash with no principles.

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– Piroko 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

But she won't deliver any policy wins.

I live in Iowa. You're not going to persuade me on doomspeak about burning cities, because I live in a state that's done it's part.

We haven't had a single day of rioting since the derecho.

Why?

Because 2/3rds of the whole goddamn state learned what it's like to live without power for three days and had a realization that life isn't so bad. I don't think it's any coincidence that the bluest cities in the country are some of the safest places in the world (crime notwithstanding).

You complain about boog shit? I say let them burn the cities and watch what it does to the suburb vote.

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– w-duranty6489 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

But she won't deliver any policy wins.

A policy of anarcho-tyrrany.

You complain about boog shit? I say let them burn the cities and watch what it does to the suburb vote.

All the burned blue cities voted for Biden.

I live in Iowa. You're not going to persuade me on doomspeak about burning cities, because I live in a state that's done it's part.

We haven't had a single day of rioting since the derecho.

Tell me where the Aryan Nation was located. I wonder why BLM never went there.

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– Voluntaryism 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Radical (classical) liberal checking in

All I want for christmas is Trump taking the throne.

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– Lurker404 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

If this election has shown one thing it's that mainstream control is all that matters.

The voters are never going to get a realistic view of the Democratic party. The various news sites are just going to tell their audiences what they want to hear, all repackaged for everyone from moderates to extremists. All the while telling everyone that the alternative are child-eating monsters, neatly presented in Wikipedia articles that only allow said news sites as sources.

The Dems control everything from education, to entertainment, to the news, to the Internet, to science.

Parler and the like are irrelevant in the scheme of things. The second they get too big they'll get deplatformed by hosters, payment processors and credit card companies. See Gab or Bitchute for example.

If you don't exist on the mainstream sites like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube or Reddit you might as well not exist at all. Take a look at T_D for example: while they were on Reddit they got attention from people like Trump himself, Fitton and a couple other big names. That went away with .win.

Monopolies have been established and won't be broken any time soon. Newcomers are either not politically correct enough and get destroyed or they get bought out by the big ones.

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– Piroko 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The second they get too big they'll get deplatformed by hosters, payment processors and credit card companies.

As I said: "we have to go to the next level, creating new competing CDNs and cloud hosting systems"

get destroyed or they get bought out

Yes, and?

As I said: "The internet remains ancapistan in literally all ways, including the ways that lead to monopolies."

You stand there, confused about why those sites failed.

I'll tell you why they failed in simple terms:

You trusted in bad products and bad people, and because you're impatient, you try to build too big of a tent up front which lumps you in with people you shouldn't associate with. You do this because you aren't willing to commit the lifetime of pain and work needed to do it right.

If you want a blueprint, I can give you a blueprint.

My consulting fee is $300k. Up front.

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– Lurker404 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

CDNs and hosting systems need paying customers. You can't have paying customers when Visa, Mastercard and Paypal blacklist you.

https://news.gab.com/2020/06/19/gab-blacklisted-by-visa/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11938320
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/11/14/paypal-blacklists-free-speech-youtube-alternative-bitchute/
https://reclaimthenet.org/zero-hedge-banned-by-paypal/
https://www.epik.com/blog/paypal

We're at a point where "just build your own" means "just build your own banking system".

people you shouldn't associate with

You mean you and me, right? We've already been chased off Reddit and there have been plenty of hit pieces targeting .win. That's the thing: they decide for you who you are allowed to associate with.

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– Piroko 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I told you what my consulting fee is. I have a plan. It isn't free.

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– Smith1980 [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

But at some point you have to address entitlement spending

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– Piroko 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This is why GOP spent thirty years on the rocks since Reagan. Why one guy who put words on a hat and his name on a plane managed to beat 16 of ya.

You're shit terrible at marketing.

You don't out and fucking say you're gonna give people less. You just be real quiet about it and then do it anyway, but more creative-like.

"Will you cut entitlement spending?"

"I don't want to cut entitlement spending (Scott Adams Voice: But I might cut it if I had to.). What I do want to do is bring our forces home."

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– Piroko 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

TBH, if Harris is the president, I think the GOP should run Kim Reynolds (Gov-IA).

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– deleted 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

I've been caught up more US-centric than normal this week and didn't think of that. I'm not sure a Biden-Harris presidency would even bother to notice if China took Taiwan and who else powerful enough to take a stand would? Wow, that would be brutal and is quite depressing.

We will try, I think there's enough evidence in the elections here it goes wrong that there's a huge number of people that are not ok with the progressive vision for America. I hope enough of them are emboldened by this that it matters.

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– w-duranty6489 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Biden-Harris presidency would even bother to notice if China took Taiwan

Harris might be "deeply concerned" and might write a letter.

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– w-duranty6489 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

WW3 right after 2020. What a time to be alive.

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– PlacematMan2 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I think this is doomer talk, no offense.

If China was going to do something they'd have done it back when the world was reeling from COVID and they had already "solved" it.

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– w-duranty6489 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Voter fraud, corrupt Dem DAs like Portland's Mike Schmidt, Soros prosecutors, you decide.

https://archive.vn/oNyqQ thefederalist

Why Aren’t We Allowed To Talk About George Soros’s Plan To Remake America?

Since 2015, George Soros has pumped tens of millions of dollars into local races in Texas, Colorado, California, Oregon, Washington, Florida, and New York, as well as swing states. By Robby Starbuck SEPTEMBER 19, 2020

Buying Prosecutors Who Are Soft on Crime

Since 2015, Soros has pumped tens of millions of dollars into local races in Texas, Colorado, California, Oregon, Washington, Florida, and New York, as well as swing states such as Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Arizona. In 2016, Soros spent $2,000,000 on a single sheriff race in Maricopa County, Arizona, helping the leftist candidate, Paul Penzone, win.

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– cccpneveragain 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

I think the only way he wins in court is with a really, really smoking gun that I don't think he has. It's really a scenario I never considered happening with a Biden victory but not gaining the Senate and losing ground in the House. Trump is a fighter though, so while I'm pessimistic I'm not ready to throw in the towel.

There's a few certainties I think--censorship is now even more mainstream. Free speech is going to be tough. They will start going after the Internet much more aggressively. This control of speech worked out very well for them and it's something they will be much more empowered to do without a President in the way. Suddenly no one in public eye is even saying the news is fake, but it's fair and unbiased. Hate-speech places like this will be attacked viciously. They won't manage to kill it, but force it more underground and thereby making it more removed from the average person.

US policy-wise, meaning things they need legislation on I don't think will be super successful. This meaning things they won't get away with just decreeing--some healthcare things, court-packing, etc. At least not now. The focus will be on controlling the narrative to get more control of the congress in 2022.

I do hope if they push some things that some states stand up and tell them to fuck off. We need to make sure if we're in conservative states that they feel empowered to be defiant. This is probably wishful thinking on my part.

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– deleted 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0
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– SuburbanYute 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

its not over yet

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– PlacematMan2 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Don't forget Republicans picked up a lot of House seats, I think their majority is literally one or two seats by now in the House. Republican need to ride that momentum in 2022 and sweep the House and hold the Senate. And we have the courts.

By Biden's own admission he couldn't do anything as Vice President because there was a Republican Congress (final debate look it up)

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– roseate 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Are all these people willing to accept Biden as president? Just roll over and take it? Conservatives are pathetic weak willed people which is why they always lose.

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– ReverendZero 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

President Harris.

No, he won't win in court.

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