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Anyone planning on watching CBC's US election coverage? LOLJK but if you're curious here's a "highlight" from last time (twitter.com)
posted 5 years ago by YesMovement 5 years ago by YesMovement +41 / -0
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– deleted 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0
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– Galean 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

He was also a vegetarian ecologist socialist.

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– YouAreAPirate 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

I also heard he drank water too! Is there no evil this man won’t commit?

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– Voluntaryism 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

And he loved dogs and his balls were amputated (albeit not voluntarily, one of them was shot off or similar in a fight)

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– Knife-TotingRat 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

According to Toland, the whole abnormal balls thing was a rumour that predated the war, and wasn't true, according to examinations; one doctor who was brought in after Hitler's personal doctor, Morrell, was found to be prescribing him stomach pills with strychnine in it, took advantage of the access to see if the rumours were true; apparently not.

As for Morrell, he was either a quack, or an overcautious would-be assassin. The stomach pills themselves were not unusual for the time, but Hitler was openly abusing them, thinking there being no harm in taking more than the prescribed dosaqe.

Source: John Toland, Adolf Hitler.

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– YesMovement [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You know who else smeared their political opponents as being evil? Hitler

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– APDSmith 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Heh, almost feel sorry for the guy in the middle trying to walk it back a little.

Picked the wrong network for moderation there, I think...

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– JuliasEbola00 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Don't feel sorry for David Frum. He's a piece of shit.

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– Gizortnik 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

So, the black lady has a point.

She's wrong about Hitler having the same brand as Trump. Hitler, arguably, had better marketing than Trump ever did. Furthermore, as she said, Hitler had significant support form establishment figures. It was a progressive ideology that suggested a "third way" that could save Germany from the fall of Capitalism (which was just a few years away), that appealed to a return to the socialism that Germans thought they enjoyed, that promised an end to political infighting, and combined the modern progressive ideas on how to run a society while not simply accepting communist revolutionary culture.

Hitler almost played himself as a kind of Modern Socialist for Modern Times that could save Germany from the violence of a Marxist revolution, while still enjoying all the assumed benefits of Socialism. We'd almost think of him as a "Social Democrat" if he actually believed in Democracy. But Democracy was an anti-Socialist structure as far as basically everyone on the Left was concerned at the time.

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– deleted 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0
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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Yes, but he was more overt about destroying the German constitution.

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– Killroyomega 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You're also a bit off.

Hitler didn't play on a return to socialism. The socialism aspects of the party and his campaign were rather minor, in fact. The big issues he forced were economics (socialism as an aspect, but moreso building a state where children weren't whoring themselves on street corners,) German pride, and a return to power.

Both the upper and lower echelons of German power still fondly remembered the days of Prussia and before. They desperately wanted those days of the "noble German" to return. Many of the high-ranking cabinet and SS members Hitler would recruit were born and raised under that system whereby it was a common thing for duels to blood to occur without any armor and real swords.

The Germans prided themselves on their martial prowess and their society was built around a fascination for war. History books today will tell you that they were brutal butchers with no regard for honor or care for human life, but that's not true in the slightest. Germany offered Britain and France incredibly favorable surrender terms many, many times. Neither Hitler nor the German people wanted to stay in a protracted brother war.

As for economics, do remember that it was Hitler PERSONALLY who reinvented the factory system. He knew what he was doing and was responsible for production methods still used today.

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– Gizortnik 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

The socialism aspects of the party and his campaign were rather minor, in fact

Utter lunacy.

Wage controls, price controls, mandatory unionization, nationalization of industries, make-work programs, fiat currency, protectionism, universal healthcare, universal public education, autarky, shrinking markets theory, application of Marxist theory to economics, the rescinding of private property rights.

Hitler wasn't just promoting socialism, he was a socialist. He was die-hard socialist. He radical socialism. National Socialism was the socialization of the race.

but moreso building a state where children weren't whoring themselves on street corners

I can guess why the Alt-Right try to harp on this, but this was not really a thing that the National Socialists were focusing on.

The Germans prided themselves on their martial prowess and their society was built around a fascination for war.

No. This is the thing with most socialists. They destroy their own people's history in order to impart their own. The Prussian Militarist Aristocracy was like this. Germanic peoples were not. Most Germanic people were not Prussian, and most Germanic people were desperately wishing to avoid further wars that utterly ravaged central Europe several times. German immigrants are known the world over for their peacefulness, their trade, their industriousness, and their integrity in trade. Not their combat ability.

Germany offered Britain and France incredibly favorable surrender terms many, many times.

LOL. Favorable terms for their puppet state. How about, "fuck off back to Berlin"?

As for economics, do remember that it was Hitler PERSONALLY who reinvented the factory system. He knew what he was doing and was responsible for production methods still used today.

I doubt that considering the man had never managed a factory in his life, and was a socialist. Which means, by definition, he knows nothing of economics.

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– anonanonUK 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Trump literally H1lter.

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– RoulerBleu 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

... These people lack the intelligence, character and judgement for doing that show.

And of course the diversity-hire jumped immediately from "one" to "Hitler".

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– cccpneveragain 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

The funny thing they forget with their Hitler-ing of everything is it's not a ton different than how Obama sold himself in 2008. If I remember correctly it was a flood of stuff about hope and change. He was also a media darling, actually in a bit more of a Hitler like way because it was only due to politics. Trump was at one time a media darling for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with politics.

I went down this road myself during Obama's reign, albeit without all the dramatic whining as I wasn't a Democrat. Something I've learned from it in the long run--we could very likely draw conclusions about any candidate since the rise of Hitler that make them also Hitler. The fact of the matter was he was elected to power legitimately by getting enough people to vote for him. Part of that is appealing to the voters, which is exactly what all politicians try to do when they are campaigning for votes. They all steal from the Hitler playbook, which Hitler stole from people before him. None of this is new.

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