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VerGreeneyes 5 points ago +5 / -0

Like the DOOM multiplayer where they left out the view bob? (at least for the trailer, but I never heard anything good about the multiplayer)

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VerGreeneyes 8 points ago +8 / -0

If the relevant states manage to hold off or overthrow any legal injunctions and get their electors to vote faithfully (which feels like the wrong word to use here), then Trump is fucked.

But there are a multitude of ways for him to pull through:

  • Hand recounts could be significantly different this time due to the vote counting machine shenanigans.
  • If Giuliani is right and not allowing Republicans to watch the counting process is illegal, then getting all or a portion of mail-in votes discarded is entirely possible.
  • Other types of auditing could prove further fraud (though I'm not too positive on their chances of proving fraud now that all the ballots are mixed up) and cause more ballots to be discarded (either directly or through a court-ordered adjustment of the count).
  • Republican state legislators could appoint Republican electors who choose to elect Trump.
  • If the process gets stalled long enough, SCOTUS could punt it to House delegations, with 1 delegate per state (and Republicans have a majority of the states).

So pending any legal victories, right now I give him 50/50 odds (you can count that as Trump +1 in your tally though). If we start getting favorable results like the hand recount in Georgia showing large differences or other legal victories, bump that up to 80%.

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VerGreeneyes 9 points ago +9 / -0

They ran a trailer with a clip of Yuri Bezmenov, so that would point to it not being woke - but I have no idea if they really thought it through or what the other material shows.

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VerGreeneyes 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I didn't consider that possibility for some reason but some Republican-leaning districts are already doing exactly that.

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VerGreeneyes 19 points ago +20 / -1

Better warn Aussie trannies who first started using the word among themselves.

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VerGreeneyes 14 points ago +14 / -0

That would be great, I agree. Though you'd still have to do something about the problem with poll watchers not being allowed to get close, and enforce manual counting.

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VerGreeneyes 30 points ago +30 / -0

Trump's team should really file a case in every state and get them to recount all ballots by hand. These machines (Dominion's are used in 30 states, but there was also a "glitch" with another brand's machines) cannot be trusted, and diminishing Biden's vote count will be important for the "muh popular vote" moral victory.

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VerGreeneyes 4 points ago +4 / -0

Between those two choices? Yes. In general I'd say it's a bit of a toss-up - there are a lot of people out there saying things that are completely unverified and end up legitimately debunked. But I also wouldn't say that tweets without the blue message are any more likely to be true.

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VerGreeneyes 7 points ago +7 / -0

Obviously it would be better to vote for a person you've actually looked into, but why would you risk leaving the president you voted for high and dry with a hostile Congress?

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VerGreeneyes 26 points ago +26 / -0

I like how before the election, everyone agreed that no one was actually enthusiastic about Biden, but the polling gap could be explained by how much people hated Trump.

Yet looking at the actual results, Trump received very slightly more votes than the Republican candidates for the Senate, and Biden somehow received far more votes than some of the Democrat candidates ... but only in the contested states.

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VerGreeneyes 12 points ago +12 / -0

The only way I see any kind of healing after this is if fraud on a massive scale is proved in a court of law and Trump is declared the victor before the deadline is reached and the House has to decide.

At that point I think media might actually report on the court cases simply because they realize that civil war is inevitable if they don't, and that would actually hurt their bottom line.

If the fraud remains unproven, if the courts side with Biden despite whatever proof is available or if either Biden or Trump is declared the victor through a vote in the House, then I think you're entirely fucked. The two sides will never, ever reconcile without first going through armed conflict.

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VerGreeneyes 12 points ago +12 / -0

811,836 ballots cast by 408,268 registered voters, or about 2 ballots per registered voter who turned out. Are there simply 2 ballots, 1 for the presidential election and 1 for something else (e.g. governor, house representative etc.)?

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VerGreeneyes 24 points ago +24 / -0

Most people assume that there must be thousands of highly paid people working on this problem right now. I suspect the answer is more like ten, and I personally know about seven of them.

I hope he's wrong about this - at least, I hope that Trump's lawyers do have thousands of people working on this kind of in-depth analysis for every relevant state.

If Trump's lawyers fail to make this case in court - putting biased judges and juries aside for a moment - then losing (or winning by a vote in the House) will be at least partially his own fault. There's so much to go on here, they should have a very strong case for recounts, audits and possibly more.

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VerGreeneyes 19 points ago +19 / -0

Snazzy page. On the issue of dead people voting, it should include a note that while the vote in the primary example wasn't counted (because the system - when operated properly - does check that the person isn't known to be dead), these ballots were still filled in and submitted by someone - and we don't know how many slipped through the cracks.

Edit: Also, maybe a section about the massive turnout in certain districts would be nice. The mean turnout for registered voters in past elections is ~66%, but in this election these districts got numbers like 95%, way more than can be explained by the increased turnout nationally.

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VerGreeneyes 4 points ago +6 / -2

In the interest of fairness, I read that politifact article about the 130k ballots for Biden and it does look like a proper debunking:

"The correction appears to be reflected in tweets Decision Desk HQ sent as the results trickled in from Michigan on Nov. 4. In one tweet posted at 5:04 a.m. EST, the service reported 2,130,695 votes for Biden and 2,200,902 votes for Trump. In another tweet at 5:43 a.m. EST, the service reduced the vote count for Biden, putting him at 2,019,899 votes to Trump’s 2,217,540."

So Biden gained 130k votes back after losing them earlier due to a data entry error.

Of course, that doesn't explain away any of the other irregularities, like Biden's vote totals not obeying Benford's law or that "glitch" in the vote counting machines.

The claim about dead people voting also wasn't debunked - yes, that vote wasn't counted, but clearly someone still submitted a ballot on behalf of a dead man. Who knows how many other cases weren't caught, e.g. for people who died recently or people who are alive but weren't intending to vote.

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VerGreeneyes 18 points ago +18 / -0

Heh, 5 standard deviations is the standard used by physicists to conclude the existence of new particles like the Higgs boson. The chance of a deviation like that happening by random chance is 1 in 3.5 million. Taken together with all the other circumstantial evidence, I think it's more than enough to draw strong conclusions.

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VerGreeneyes 26 points ago +26 / -0

This is a big deal IMO, violations of Benford's law have been used as proof of tax fraud in the past. This alone is enough to prove that the results were fucked with.

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VerGreeneyes 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah that's what I figured. I think there was some rumor floating around about watermarks but I'm guessing that's wishful thinking at best. The only partial solution I can think of (and I don't know if it applies to PA) is to look at the batches where they reported 100% Biden votes and discard those.

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VerGreeneyes 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah they would have to actually perform an audit and find clearly invalid ballots to then discard. I assume they were taken out of their envelopes to be counted so it's not like you can look at those anymore, the bad ballots are mixed in with the good ones at this point.

Which might mean that the best thing that Trump can do is run out the clock and force a SCOTUS decision that house delegates need to decide. Personally I'm hoping that judges look at those 100% Biden vote tally jumps in states like Michigan and Wisconsin and just declare that whole batch invalid though - it's clearly impossible unless you also find 100% Trump vote tally jumps (which would imply that they're reporting them separately), and I don't think we saw any of those.

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VerGreeneyes 22 points ago +22 / -0

If it's possible to discover fraud by auditing these votes, audit them. Otherwise, look at the trends and simply discard them. Some of the states in which Trump was ahead were trending toward Biden, but a lot of the states that are now being called for Biden would never have swung in his favor without all the mysterious vote drops.

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VerGreeneyes 7 points ago +7 / -0

Communism: Finds a new out-group whenever they finish killing off the last one.

Nazis might have done the same thing mind you, but they weren't in power for very long.

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VerGreeneyes 33 points ago +33 / -0

If you're feeling disenfranchised because the French aren't supportive of terrorists who share your religion, then maybe it's time to leave. If you're starting to feel that your religion is just fundamentally incompatible with French society, maybe it's time to leave.

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