Yeah. Is the first amendment written in the Bible?
I'm not saying the American constitution is incongruent with Christianity, I'm saying it's manmade. And that manmade legal foundation is the core reason the USA is the powerhouse it's become.
Right. I think most of us agree the USA is a relatively successful society.
What I'm saying in response to that is that we can't know if it's Christianity that can ultimately be credited with that success. What differentiates the USA from, e.g. the UK, is its incredibly powerful individual protections in constitutional law. Those are deviations from Christianity.
I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, I was trying to get in front of counterarguments or competing thoughts.
I like your response but I think this is oversimplified. Leftist Dawkins opponents don't operate with a "[freedom] to discover the meaning and purpose of their own lives free from religious constraint or dogma," they operate with deliberate censorship and coercion regimes. There are unnatural pressures in place that dissuade true freedom of discovery and expression and especially the unpopular, traditional rationalist approach you mentioned. That kind of objectivity is white supremacy these days.
What stifles that kind of nonsense are the absolute protections in American constitutional law. 1A, 2A, etc. The foundations of all other "Christian" nations are crumbling under leftist assault because their civil liberties are nowhere near as fortified. They were still Christian nations though, at least at one point.
The arrogance. You sound like a muslim. These holier-than-thou rants always makes you clowns look exactly like your religious enemies.
Also, your claim is that objective morality is only possible as a matter of faith? Objectivity is faith, that's your argument? Pffft.
Let me ask you this -- has everyone and everything who's called themselves Christian been good and not evil? Has every nation founded on Christianity been a success?
The USA is an extreme rarity. I also think it's impossible to tease out whether its success is ultimately due to Christianity or due to its extremely robust constitutional protections over individual liberty. And while the two are related, they are unmistakably distinct.
Also, if adherence to Christianity is the perfect antidote to leftism, why deviate from its commandments at all? Should Christians denounce the incredible power of the American constitution in favour of the lessons in the Bible? If Christianity is the perfect answer, then any deviation from it is anti-God, including virtually all American law. Sticking to those laws is a tacit admission that the Bible doesn't have all the answers.
Devil's advocate, pun intended, but I don't see how that's the core issue. Science is also supposed to be secular, and yet with leftism dominating academia, here we have leftists using "female" to describe a man. Leftist dehumanization campaigns against political opponents allow them to justify not sticking to their alleged principles. The problem is that weak and/or malicious leftists in charge put politics ahead of principles in whatever form those principles take. As a result, they engage us and other dissidents with hypocrisy, a lack of fairness, contempt, and complete insincerity. Religious people can behave that way too -- look at the pope.
+1. Also, this anime will introduce you to one of the best pieces of classical music ever made (Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No. 9 in E Minor, Op. 95: IV. Allegro con fuoco).
The anime requires patience to watch, but it's very rewarding for those who stick with it. I will say though that based on the list of anime that OP liked, this is quite a departure.
I don't think the solution is to abandon this fork and fragment this community further by going elsewhere.
For people serious about the mod situation here, likely the most effective strategy is to demonstrate to the admins that this place has been sufficiently abandoned by existing mods to warrant their intervention and the appointment of new mods.