Imagine for a moment that the US 'kicked the Russians when they were down'. Meaning, aid the Germans to extend their dominion to the Urals.
Germany controlled Europe from France, through Norway, Switzerland, Greece, and was allied with Italy, Spain, Hungary and Romania. Basically, the entire post World War II 'NATO alliance' sans the UK.
This is formidable power. Now add to that the industrial capacity and agricultural riches that were poorly exploited by communism and collectivizaton. Add to that the power of Japan and how it was (at that moment flailing at) conquering China and planning to take European colonies in Asia.
Just put the hypothetical Nazi victory in Russia vs. the postwar USSR and its satellites on a map. I'm not sure how you think that would have been less of a threat to US hegemony. Add to that: the actually rich and industrialized parts of Europe were controlled by Germany, and they did not have a self-defeating economic system (or at least less of one) to implode.
That is the only explanation for the US and UK's actions. The only role that Nazi politics played was that it was more expansionistic and thus triggered the balancing coalition that ultimately ended it.
That I've encountered it in several WW2 books.
I didn't mean that the average man on the street is likely to know it.
We are a DEMOCRACY, donchakno?
This quote is very well-known, he may be forgiven for using a screenshot.
That is pretty monstrous, though a gaffe in the Kinsey sense of accidentally telling the truth.
"kill as many as possible" seems to be the US regime line in many places, including Ukraine-Russia.
The problem is that no one where I live watches American debates, let alone normies.
They read the lying newspapers and then ask "Trump is in trouble, isn't he?"
Something Trump has been consistently able to do, while Harris has consistently failed to be able to hype herself and every anti-Trump line has already been said.
But he is a CONVICTED FELON!
She's bad at multi-candidate debates and Trump is very good at it.
She might be good at 1-on-1 debates, esp. as a prosecutor. The problem is that everyone likes to lull himself into overconfidence, Trump not being the least of them (though if it's true he's using Tulsi as a debate foil, that is great).
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Just out of curiosity, are you part of that weird pro-Ukraine group?
They all are skewed somewhat to anti-Trump, but if you compare the anti-Trump bias in regular polls - it's no more than a few percentage points. Also, I think there is a bias in who watches debates. I think it's more likely to be anti-Trump.
I'm worried that Trump will lose the debate, because of Harris's prosecutorial background. I know people here think he won every single debate, but in terms of general audiences, polls claim he lost all 5 debates vs. Democrats he participated in.
On the other hand, that does confirm what people say, namely that debates don't matter.
Same people who have always done it: the deep state.
That’s absolutely a huge part of it, more so in the past than today (which has chosen to suppress the memory of past glory in order to fixate obsessively on alleged shame) - the Narrative(s) told about this time are far more widespread than the realities
Both shame and pride can be used to keep the people down. Look at how shame is instrumentalized in Germany and the United States. It's funny, because the German state now demands unquestioning obedience from its subjects based on the fact that the German people with mostly unquestioning obedience followed the Nazis. Obviously, we're very far from trying to learn any useful lessons, rather than trying to manipulate people.
Things like fake talmud quotes or purposefully taking things out of context are poisonous, doubly so because there is so much real crime and corruption to expose.
That is actually not what I meant, but yes, when you presented those quotes from the Talmud I thought "here we go again, it's probably fake as hell". But it turned out you actually had the goods, which was a surprise.
What I mean, in terms of World War 2, is that "Churchill was a psychopath" is not a particularly useful statement. Not just because he was a politician, and if he wasn't less psychopathic than average, he certainly wasn't more so. But it doesn't actually accomplish anything, even you manage to persuade someone of that, which is unlikely.
World War 2 was a colossal failure on the part of the 'allies', both France/England and the USSR. Why on earth would you let them spin that into something positive? There were numerous times at which the Nazis could have been stopped, from the Rhineland takeover to the invasion of Czechoslovakia, with very little bloodshed. If you say the Nazis are bad, and I do grant that, then why would you get any credit for belatedly and at the cost of tens of millions of lives getting rid of them, rather than when it could have been done without much cost?
Incompetence is far more unforgivable than evil. They don't care about their leaders killing a million Iraqis, why should they care about how many Bomber Harris killed? They don't care about Nazi atrocities either. They'd cheer for Nazis if the media told them to, and they do... see Ukraine.
There really is something to be said for “not stooping to their level”.
It's like with the pro-Trump people who thought they could riot because BLM did so. Turns out, BLM can only do so because the ruling class is unanimously on its side. If you do 1/1000 of what they did, they'll come down mercilessly on you: see Jan 6.
They're a one-trick pony. When people were talking about an 'epidemic' and public health emergencies, they started calling racism that. When people were locked down because of government responses to the virus, they started calling for 'climate lockdowns'.
How about a woke lockdown - all wokies have to stay inside their homes or basement or what have you, insofar as they are not too socially stunted to do so already. That would actually solve most issues.
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Is there any reason one should be slower?
They're way behind Europe. I was indoctrinated on 'acid rain' in school.
They are very invested in WW2 being 'the good war', and they in turn vicariously playing the role of 'the good guys' - because it gives them legitimacy. Coincidentally, this is also why even the post-Stalin USSR prohibited Vasily Grossman from publishing his work in which he equated Stalinism with Nazism. The USSR victory in WW2 allowed it to have legitimacy in the eyes of most its people for several decades, and the same is true for the regime in the US and its puppets in Europe.
I do think the way the ultra-right goes about combating this is very counterproductive and wrong.
They're trying to take out Tucker.
The guy was off base on some stuff, but I didn't get the impression at all that he's a nutsi. Far from it.
Sexual emergency?
What did Reagan conserve exactly?
Embarrassing performance by that "rabbi".
He actually tried to claim that Candace (Klandace as he called her) is racist... against blacks.
Obamala?
Obama was a saint compared to this idiot.
Yes, downvote away.
that many of these continental European countries take the idea of being a (theoretically, if not borne out at all in reality) "flat society", with supposed "full equality".
Well yeah, the idea of equality is just used to create inequality on a tremendous scale on other aspects.
Hence being extremely early adopters of gay marriage, and "trans rights" (Belgium seems exceptionally obsessed with the latter, for reasons I do not understand),
It is? Germany, UK and Ireland are the worst in my experience. Italy is the least bad, and Spain and France somewhere in between.
and, in many cases, adopting Soviet-block apartments for all, even at the cost of levelling their historic, "vernacular" architecture (looking at you, Sweden, Norway and Finland)...
That really has nothing to do with 'equality'. It means "we want to pretend like we did something for the people at minimum cost so that there's more for our corrupt cronies".
Which seems to be at least part of the reason they hate England (less so the other "Home Nations") so much - that idea, and everything that comes with it, just doesn't to jive with Brits, despite the efforts of Labour and the Guardianistas, lol.
Are you sure? I look at the UK as the worst of the worst. Even though Germany makes a big deal of prosecuting people for their speech, the sheer magnitude of government terror in the UK is far greater. Thousands are arrested for speech each year.
And not to make it personal, but continental Europe - or even the UK - did not have internment camps for people who came into contact with the virus.
If I had to sum up what the end result of the "flat society". model is, at least in the Nordics, I would say... Beige. Everything just ends up beige.
They do not actually believe in equality, as I think you understand. It's just a convenient excuse, here as elsewhere, for getting what they want.
'Revenge for Pearl Harbor' was just what 'fighting for democracy' is to the current war. It's the, no disrespect, motivation for the stupid people. In both cases, maintaining American hegemony is the motivation for the ruling class, which would have existed with or without Pearl Harbor.