Why would you say the officers are in need of correction? They reacted, not perfectly, in the middle of a chaotic situation that never needed to be so. They didn't do this. This was 100% precipitated by Deady McFightsWithCops.
Any potential "accountability" for this ambiguous and hilariously tragic situation can only serve to try to weaken the Feds' ability to try and get a handle on all of this bullshit, and that is a primary desired outcome at this time. You don't go out of your way to wield da law against people acting in the right, only for the benefit of people waging evil and chaos. Any ambiguity in the legal circumstance can and should be viewed with goodness in mind.
If your normie co-workers are cucked, that's normie co-worker cuck business. Don't go making yourself cucked too just to fit in.
Because it's hard to fucking see, you fucking idiot, and because everyone who looks at it says something different. I'm saying "there's a chaotic fight," you are saying "summary execution." We are not the same, because I'm not a chestless leftist Eurofag faggot.
Which you know, but you always jump to the "officers are wrong" conclusion, because you're Reddit Incarnate. Seriously I have no idea what you're even doing here. You're universally despised--moresoeven than when Imp went full retard.
Yes, yes. We're not talking legally. I already said his right in protected. I already said he was within his legal rights. This does not stop him from being in the wrong for arming himself with the intent or possibility of aggressing.
Legality is not a magic shield that makes you right. Exercising your Rights does not make you not a piece of shit, depending on how you're choosing to go about it. The entire concept of Rights, when it comes to the legality, rests on a somewhat fragile assumption of reasonable behavior. If you choose to do retarded things or go out looking to do harm, you are very well within your legal right to do so. You're also a piece of shit and might have to be put down.
WHILE, you fucking fruitbat. This is not some magical toggle-switch that flips on a nanosecond. His gun was in play, and he was still feasibly, demonstrably, observably trying to go for his gun, or their guns. It was still a highly dangerous situation, and in the absence of perfect information, they were still engaged in a fight.
Which you know. But you like to lie.
See? You don't have a non-disingenuous bone in your body. You lie like breathing.
Everything he did there was fighting cops. He was there to fight, he was fighting when they had to tell him to get down and put his hands up, he was fighting when they were attempting to disarm him. Fight fight fight.
It is not a "summary execution" and your attempt to frame it as such clearly demonstrates exactly what kind of chestless lefty Eurofag faggot you are. It was a fight, and he got killed while being disarmed. This kind of shit happens in fracases. Boo fucking hoo.
He was part of the soup, fighting cops, you complete and utter dingus. You know this, you just like to smarmily lie, because you're a chestless lefty faggot who likes to bloviate his Eurofag chestless lefty faggot opinions on United States dealings that he's completely ignorant regarding and are none of his chestless lefty Eurofag faggoty business.
It is protected. Just because it is protected, doesn't make it not a bad idea, and the fact that it is protected doesn't mean you're not a piece of shit for exercising that right in bad faith. It's for self-defense. This doesn't cover aggression. If you're armed for aggression, it's not self-defense.
It's not just "he had a gun." It's also where and when he "had a gun." "Had a gun" is a funny kind of re-framing of "Armed himself before wading into a conflict."
Those are very different things.
This is a leftist retard take on "NPC update."
It is unjustifiable and retarded to go armed to a "peaceful protest" in which officers have been constantly and consistently forced to grapple "protestors" and leap out of the way of "protestors" attempting to "just observe, bro" when they decide they have the right to drive right through people.
Of course (in America) everyone has the Right to bear arms. However carrying into a brawl, a fracas, it is clear what you're up to. And he was. And we know it. You're the "NPC update" trying to say completely stupid things in a way that makes them sound normal.
This is very simple: Don't fight cops. Don't go to where cops are fighting and bring your piece. Your rights are not plot armor, you are not a main character. Don't waltz into places where tense, forceful exchanges are happening, antagonize, and expect the universe to be kind to you.
While the Somali situation may have appeared (to you) to come from largely out of the blue, out there in the wilder world, this situation has been percolating for years. The biggest thing people aren't prepared to accept right now is that it goes way beyond MN, MN just happens to be where the most blatant, uncontrovertible fraud was uncovered. This was always waiting to boil over.
Walz is dancing on a wire and he very well knows it. The moment the Feds can clean up and have access to MN public records (as they absolutely should, and there isn't any legal argument preventing them, only force) he's pulled down. In a world that has largely gone "nothing ever happens," this big man could and should be noisily and brutally cuffed and paraded around.
I sadly have to agree with most of this, but this isn't on my radar: What's with the Suzie Wiles angle? I mean, she's a devil, and I hate what she did to DeSantis, but I'm not aware of any way in which she or her people benefit from this exposure.
Ah, the "I'm not the kind of person who would do that" therefore "I must not have done that," even though you just did that and I watched you do it dance. Too many cases to count.
I don't think that's a very smart assessment. You're saying that the Trump administration wants a big mess. This is right on the heels of what may be the most surgical coup/revolution in history, conducted by the same bunch of people. It is in absolutely no way the fault of the Feds (this time) that they're getting zero support from the local establishment that is supposed to, and historically has, actually do(ne) their jobs and keep things cool and contained so that the Feds can go about their business. The point of failure here is 100% MN politicos. Well, them and the FBI, who should be frogmarching the entire MN upper echelon by now.
Libshits are always going on about how Trump "loves chaos." This has always been an obviously stupid thing to think and say. I hate to break it to you, but that sounds a lot like what you're saying here.
Fuck if I know. Whatever this shittery going on in the MN brass is something troubling, with how far it's gotten. Walz especially appears to be taking an "If I'm going down, I'm taking you all with me" approach and horrifyingly enough, that does seem to be working out for him. Motherfucking Farquaad bullshit right there.
You and I both know what should be happening. As to why literally every angle of this thing is borderline FUBAR, damned if I know.
One would hope! I'm not so sure. I think a lot of people caught up in this are in it because they're having a good time, and a dash of martyrdom here and there only increases the fun. It's not real to them until literally their last nanosecond before death, or maybe when they're on the ground with their arms pinioned, or perhaps with a snout full of pepper spray.
Self-preservation as an imperative--or even a priority--is not currently a popular menu item.
LOL okay fella. I'm going to tap out here--this is taking up too much of my internet time, which is getting a little too much as it is. You have fun thinking those things that you think, and I'll be over here.
I am not trying to convince you of anything. I don't really see you as someone who can be reasonably convinced of much of anything. It wasn't up to me to provide "evidence" that he's a dude worth listening to, because that's fucking insane.
I made the comparison because the comparison is there to be made. They're companies, they're organizations, they're outlets, they publish. They share some characteristics. They differ in others.
None of this makes any sense to you, does it? You seem to like to latch onto one simple thing, chalk everything up to just that (whether your observation makes sense at all, which so far to me it doesn't) and call it a day.
The Feds are there to encircle Frey and Walz and their fraud network. The "innocent Americans" are acting as body-shields to stop Frey and Walz from rightly going down.
Fuck everyone putting themselves in the middle, and ratchet up the enforcement. If you're wringing your hands about this, you're a Quisling.
If you don't care then you can frankly fuck off, because I don't know what else the purpose of this conversation could be.
I think the DW is a thing, much like other things. Kind of like CBS, kind of like the Wall Street Journal, much like The Blaze, etc etc. I know where you're going with this, and no, I do not think it's a bunch of shysters chained to oars entirely dedicated to pumping out Zion 24/7.
In college the stupid center mass of students would say things like "US corporations are to blame!" (for this, that, and the other thing). You sound a lot like this to me.
This is a desecration and I want everyone involved with it punished.
Nah it's just your typical Engrish. There used to be loads of this all over the net. It was probably in the top 5 internet chew-toys, right behind funny cat videos. After all, All Your Base, do Belong to Us.
Anyway if it's childish to smirk at a product that is a tight tube stuffed with white cream and called "cream collon," then chalk me up as childish.
Then you're a better mod than most. Good on ya.
You're push-pin "therefore"-ing this to a weird degree. Walsh is published under the DW umbrella. However he's one of the bigger properties, and his content hasn't in any way significantly altered since he started being produced and hosted by DW. I don't have to like anyone else at DW, Shapiro included, to like Walsh. There doesn't seem to be inappropriate editorial standards applied to Walsh, and Walsh even often waddles up to and over the line of what's typically considered "on-message" for Shapiro and/or DW.
This association doesn't mean nothing to me, but it doesn't mean much. And anyway, this is just Walsh, who I only mentioned in passing as an example of another dude who talks about stuff. I don't like YouTube, but it's on their platform that a lot of decent content is still found. Same with any platform. I don't have to like the station overall to like a show on the channel.
This is what I meant several messages ago by saying that I don't care about this picayune bullshit. You were unfair and ignorant about hoe_math--applying standards to him that I find misapplied and weird. You're doing it with Walsh. You might even have a better case with Walsh (though "he's with Shapiro" isn't near good enough), but haven't really made that case either.
So far the common denominator is you. You don't just throw the baby out with the bath-water, you expect me to boycott the company who manufactured the tub. It's impossible to live intelligently and navigate the modern information environment this way.
I don't like where this is going. This person is very contrary, but nothing in these insane screeds reads to me as a deliberate attempt to aggravate or provoke, in the absence of sincerely-held (stupid) beliefs.
It's "trolling" inasmuch as me posting contrary positions on a bread-tuber channel would be. Yes, it's in opposition, and the local culture certainly disagrees with and hates what I'm saying, whether I'm right or not. But it's me, a person, simply expressing opinions, not a "troll," at the end of the day.
What Imp was doing was content-free shitting. TallestSkil, though I haven't seen it in awhile, sometimes indulges in some content-free shitting. I don't see content-free shitting in freedomlogic's posts, just a very damaged person with largely unfounded opinions anathema to the water temperature of this board.
It's not me whose missing anything here. "Public perception" is rank with fucking idiocy. Nothing in the world true or real can change that. At this moment in time, under these circumstances and conditions, with people doing what they're doing, and the press acting as it does, there is absolutely no point in softening to try to appease the fucking idiocy with soft treatment.
I don't think you fully realize what the "reality" we're living in really is. Those aren't good people on the street. The good people are huddled up in their houses and apartments while goddamn apes are allowed to instigate fights on the ground, because men in skyscrapers or in very sturdy public buildings surrounded by security will it so.
If you think that this is a problem of perception, I just don't even know what to tell you. Words aren't spells. Perception is not reality. Violence is real. You're looking at pawns and ignoring everything happening around them that makes things like this. You're crying "unfair!" at the people who are being aggressed against. Yes, we would all very much like for all the bad happenings to stop. If you successfully got the good guys here to stop, that would let the bad guys own the field.
That's the way to a further spiraling hellscape of more violence and despair. That's the point you're missing. Necessary corrective steps--ones you probably agreed with yesterday--are being employed. This is what that looks like. It's not clean or pretty, especially when those with the mops are beset by fucking brownshirts who've been given carte blanche, encouraged even, to hit the street and try and stop them.