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posted 5 years ago by okay 5 years ago by okay +76 / -0
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– Ahaus667 51 points 5 years ago +51 / -0

We cant show women as weak because it's too realistic

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– joydivisionucunt 40 points 5 years ago +40 / -0

The worst part is that she's weak at the beginning and then works hard to get better, literally everyone is clumsy and unskilled when they first do something, but apparently "telling" girls they're not going to be experts at something but they can be if they work hard is forbidden.

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– TentElephant 34 points 5 years ago +34 / -0

She doesn't become better by herself either. A bunch of peasants developed into a cohesive military unit under a talented officer.

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– joydivisionucunt 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

Yeah, but she doesn't stay clumsy, although the fact that she was helped by a male officer would make feminists go "REEE you think women can only become better under male supervision" because God forbid we show men and women (dressed as men in this case, but still) working alongside eachother.

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– ZackRoyer 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

OG Mulan is a movie that the entire political spectrum can enjoy.

A girl who fights gender roles and has to work even harder because she wants to protect her nation from a foreign invasion and she inspires her fellow soldiers and even commander to do so. Also funny dragon and good music.

Yet new movie manages to fuck EVERYTHING UP, INCLUDING GETTING RID OF THE FUNNY DRAGON AND GOOD MUSIC.

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– RoulerBleu 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

because she wants to protect her nation from a foreign invasion

We can't have that now. Self-preservation of your people as a cohesive nation is xenophobia.

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– joydivisionucunt 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

They did it for the Chinese audience, but why do they think Chinese audiences will go and watch Disney's attempts to pander to them with Chinese culture when they could easily watch Chinese films written by people who actually know the culture? They surely don't expect Disney to make an historically accurate film...

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– Neilcuckman666 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

nah, who wants to watch a girly movie, give me a real action hero like arnie or clint.

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– reidj 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I don't know why Disney bothers, especially with Disney+. Why should I watch a pale imitation of your animated movie when I can watch the original with exactly as much effort?

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– almond_activator 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You've stumbled upon the real reason for eternal copyright terms. They don't want to compete with things produced in the path by real artists and real effort. It jeopardizes their ability to push schlock on schedule.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0

Even in the original, it's not like any of the male recruits are any better.

Even if they're stronger they're just as unskilled as she is. None of them know how to fight or survive beyond friendly civilization. Full Metal Jacket style "Here, you are all equally worthless."

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– Glagaire 36 points 5 years ago +36 / -0

The also removed her love interest because they thought having a commanding officer serve the role was too Harvey Weinstein for current year. This despite the fact that in the original Mulan was the one who first has the hots for him and nothing happens between them until the end of the movie when she invites him to her house for 'dinner'. In other words they neuter an actual female taking control of the romantic angle of the story.

The left is a perpetual "It hurt itself in its confusion" meme generator.

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– deleted 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0
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– Glagaire 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

It's not simply that they can't be friends, they can't understand the basic idea of 'brotherhood' or even that guys will often consider another dude to be awesome because either they're a badass, a thoroughly decent human being, have a kickass work ethic, are effortlessly cool, balance their sensitive and tough sides, or are consistently awesome to their family or girlfriend, etc, etc. For them everything has to have a suppressed sexual element because thats all they can understand. They think of everything in terms of sex, money, and status and nothing deeper exists beyond that (Tumblrina types, most women are better, and some far better).

They spend so much of their time critiquing men and masculinity but then display a complete lack of awareness of what it actually involves.

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– Adamrises 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Two bros being bros are more "gay" to an outsider than most gay relationships.

Many guys I know are more openly affectionate, both physically and verbally, with their boys than their women and that's just how many of them roll.

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

He didn't like "him" romantically. To my unwoke mind it seemed to me to show character development for the boss guy when at first he was calling them all shit and useless, but then when they work better he is proud of them, because he is not a shit person and he WANTS them to survive and do great.

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– ZackRoyer 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Yeah but all relationships in media must be sexual except straight ones.

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– Kienan 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

Hey, I'm going to exercise my free speech on this platform...

This shit is retarded.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

How absolutely dare you

NOT! I DON'T GIVE A SHIT

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– jubyeonin 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

Real womyn can do that, bigot. That looks freaking hilarious. Back in the day, the audience would be howling.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

I'm kind of amused that they couldn't even get her to jump off that little roof at the end without cgi and cuts.

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– jubyeonin 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

She was only honoring Jet Li.

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– ZackRoyer 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

"Jet Li was actually a black woman" - The left in 5 years, probably.

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– deleted 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0
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– deleted 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0
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– Decrixxx 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

underrated comment

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– Steampunk_Moustache 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Reminds me of the scene in 9 (2009) where 7 is introduced with a similar display of outlandish, flashy hyper-acrobatic hyper-capability.

Even 11 years ago I rolled my eyes at it, because I knew as soon as I saw it that this character was going to be a woman.

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– RoulerBleu 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

The Feminists in entertainment have been "subverting our expectations of gender roles" for so many decades already they don't seem to understand how boring and predictable it became.

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– Serioush 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Mu-ry-sue.

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– ZackRoyer 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I can almost hear it:

"I'm the avatar deal with it!"

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– RoulerBleu 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

"Wimminz are so badass, as Avatar, they can use 3 elements without any training, as a child, barely old enough to walk steadily. Checkmate misoginists."

That show had everything to be a 10/10. They had to drag it down several points with SJW shit and a few very, very retarded plot twists.

Like when the Airbenders got captured. "I saw them get away!" she said. Yes. Everyone saw it, because they did.

There was no in-universe-realistic way to capture a master Airbender and his very skilled children, on their flying ride, as they were on the world's most important mission above all else : not get caught for any reason whatsoever, otherwise Airbending will stop existing.

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– cottagesamuel 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

This is some anime-level of bullshit.

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– deleted 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0
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– Adamrises 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I could almost believe the first half, with a neat save over an accident.

But the unflinching eye contact and flourish after the land makes it look 100% intentional (at ends with the shot of the breaking tiles) AND straight out of a parody Kung Fu movie.

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– FMantothemax 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Cuz you know what was missing from the story about self confidence and coming of age in the face of very real hardship? Floaty wire-fighting Wuxia bullshit, that's what.

It's like they looked at the concept for this movie thought "just doing the story straight out should be enough for it to be popular in China, but just in case, how can we pander even more?"

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– RoulerBleu 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Lol, they turned it into pure shit that even a Feminist should be able to see as too heavy-handed.

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– PrecisionStrike 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Except they won't because they always double down. They've had the ability to question their own side beaten out of them.

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– AbleistSL 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

unrealistic levels of natural talent

Yeah, movie is fucked I'm afraid, though the early warning sign was splitting the commander into two characters cause "#metoo".

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– Roikka 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I guess I'm gonna get flak for this, but that's not the problem. It's fine to start your story with an already competent hero. But they still need opposition, adversity, compelling qualities and drama. Things that seems to have been excised with the westernized elements of the animated film.

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