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Canadians support Mark Carney’s management of the economy, even though he’s presided over the worst first year of growth for a prime minister since at least 1963 (archive.is)
posted 4 days ago by YesMovement 4 days ago by YesMovement +19 / -0
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– SocraticMethod1 14 points 4 days ago +14 / -0

This applies to those who STILL willfully engage with the system, not those either looking for an exit or those looking to maintain a low enough profile that they are hopefully overlooked:

The Canadian people seem to have embraced being 'not American' AS their identity. They boo the American flag during sporting events, go out of their way to support what Trump or those that are MAGA disapprove of or in this instance support a leader just because he's at odds with the Trump administration.

The result? They're losing EVERYTHING. Sporting matches, history, culture, Canada is an example of why you DON'T base your identity on 'not being them'

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– SarcasticRidley 7 points 3 days ago +7 / -0

The Canadian people seem to have embraced being 'not American' AS their identity.

I mean, what else do they have? Maple syrup and Hockey? Tim Hortons? "Free" healthcare?

That's been their whole identity for like at least a century, just being notamerica. Canada as an identity doesn't even really exist anymore, and that becomes more true the more indians invade.

Canada is like the ultimate culmination of the ideology of Hitler being the ultimate evil so therefore whatever is directly opposite of him must be the ultimate good. This ideology overlooks any of the objectively good things that he did like animal welfare laws and decrees that if he did it, therefore it is evil. Now they are shooting themselves in the foot because Hitler didn't shoot himself in the foot. It is absolute insanity.

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– WeedleTLiar 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

I'm currently reading and the Zundle trial in Toronto; this is very accurate.

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

The closest thing Canada has had to an identity in living memory was the Freedom Convoy. We had Albertan truckers, fishermen from out East, Quebequois standing beside Ontarians, First Nations, young families and retirees all standing together to say "Canadians take care of ourselves".

That's why we were attacked so hard by our "government".

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– LGBTQIAIDS 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

They're just copying the Irish (everyone is good but the English) and Catalans (everyone is good but the Spaniards). Consequently, the Irish and Catalans are massive proponents of multi-racialism, because they see 'new Irish' and 'new Catalans' as fellow allies against the English and Spaniards, respectively.

Same thing in the Ukraine (everyone is good but the Russians: anyone who even speaks Russian is evil and is 0% Ukrainian, and Okechukwu and Oluwadamilola are 100% Ukrainian).

For some reason, quite a few peoples of European descent now only have a negative, hateful identity based on being 'not-X'. 'Not-English', 'not-Spanish', 'not-Russian', 'not-American', etc. In practice, that means that they desire a globalization that includes absolutely everybody except that one group, hence places like Dublin, Barcelona, Toronto, Vancouver, etc. being 'everywhere' cities with exceedingly little that is unique about them.

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– 5Cats 13 points 4 days ago +13 / -0

The non-stop barrage of propaganda and lies from almost every Canadian Media outlet takes its toll on IQ, eh?

They'll repeat any pro-Carney lie, no matter how stupid. They'll tell every anti-Conservative story like it was actually true, but it never is.

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– YesMovement [S] 12 points 4 days ago +12 / -0

Saw a news thing recently about Canada being the only G7 country in a recession and this guy they interviewed in a streeter was shocked because he thought we were doing better than the USA.

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– 5Cats 3 points 2 days ago +3 / -0

The Media has been harping on the exact same talking points lately: "Why is Carney unpopular, he's brought the best economic recovery ever!" And hot garbage like that.
There's only Pro-Liberal Media in Canada, paid by taxpayers to spout propaganda. The un-bribed Media have a very small audience.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 3 days ago +6 / -0

It's funny that people will talk about Conservatives as though they're any good. Aren't they all in favor of the same transgenderism as Carney? Same wars he supports? Same mass immigration from India?

And that even though Poilevere is a gem by 'center-right' standards.

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– 5Cats 2 points 2 days ago +2 / -0

For some reason the Federal Conservatives still imagine they can run a "moderate" candidate and somehow the Media won't roast him as a "far-right abortion banner". The Provincial Conservatives are even worse.

They still haven't learned from the USA that actual "right wing" candidates can win, especially on the down-ticket. But the Media is more fair in the USA... and it's 85% biased so that says a lot about Canada today, eh?

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– Hugs 11 points 4 days ago +11 / -0

Not all of us do, YM. Carney is worse than Trudeau.

What this really does is reaffirm that voters vote on emotion and not facts. The nice gentle looking old man who doesn't say anything inflammatory is good, so he must be good at the economy. The general Canadian is a complete turd.

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– WeedleTLiar 5 points 4 days ago +5 / -0

There is a clear bias in these polls towards people who still think there's a point to discussing ideas.

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– bloodguard 5 points 4 days ago +5 / -0

Is Alberta still trying to break away or was that movement infiltrated and destroyed as per usual?

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– Canuckistani_Refugee 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

The government and leftist apparatus is throwing every possible roadblock they can at them to shut down a peaceful resolution. I don't think Albertans are willing to defend their push for independence with force, so ultimately it's just not going to happen even if they manage to jump through every single hoop that keeps being added to stop them.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

Still in the "grinding down" process, but the amount of roadblocks they've put in means its effectively never gonna happen. Oh you need whatever % of the vote, oh, sure, you got that, but you ALSO need a certain % turnout. Oh, well, we don't know if the vote is secure, please prove your system to be more resilient than Canada's itself. Ah, but you see, that was the vote... for having a vote, not the real vote.

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– undecidedmask2 4 points 4 days ago +4 / -0

He’s anti trump which is good enough for the conservative and liberal boomers that run stuff.

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

Ugh, this is depressingly accurate.

I tried to strike up several conversations with people I talk to regarding politics the week after C-9 (No Hurty Words on the Internet) passed and all of them wanted to talk about Trump and the stupid reflecting pond.

It was a funny meme for about five minutes, grow the fuck up.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

It doesn't matter.

Only old people vote in Canada and they'll vote for whomever a) increase home value b) protect their pensions.

Let me give you an example

We have something called RRQ in Quebec. You basically pay 10% of your salary + employer pays another 10%.

So if you earn 100k a year, congrats, you now earn 90k, and employer pays 110k, plus DOZENS of stupid programs.

The money is not earmarked to you. It's put in a giant pot and the RRQ managers were caught stealing/mismanaging the money. I'm talking about $1,000+ bottles of wine by the dozen, expensive trips, etc.

But I digress.

In exchange for basically 18% of your salary (remember employer has to pay part of it), you are told you will get up to 70% of your salary per year, once retired.

But if you retire too early, you lose other funds/income. So you can only really retire after 40 years of work. Okay.

The problem is in a pot. You have no idea how well their investments will work out. You have no idea if there will still be money left in 40 years when you retire. Or even if there will be enough newcomers to pay for YOUR retirement at this point (remember it's a pay as you go, money in minus minus out, etc). Or even if there will be a crash wiping out the RRQ completely.

Old people only had to pay 5%+5%. Now it's 10%+10% and the rate increases every year. Just a bit, but it does increase. Also, when the regime was created, some people only had to work 5-10 years to get a full retirement. Yup, invest in that regime 5-10 years and get 70% of your salary for 20, 25, 30+ years.

And you only had to pay 5%.

But young people today? You'll be paying 40 years to MAYBE receive a pension. MAYBE

Put that same 20% in an index fund and you would earn WAY more than the RRQ ever pays (elon musk was right when he said it with social security in the US) AND still have money to give to your heirs. AND the money is yours and yours alone.

So it's all a giant scam, but if you are already retired and receiving a pension? You obviously want the scam to continue. You will vote for whomever protects your little scam, period.

Enter Carney...

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– HallucinatoryBeing 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

Considering how fake and gay economic stats usually are (especially muh GDP), the leafs must be doing awful if they can't even cook the numbers.

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– LGBTQIAIDS 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

I find it interesting that Carney seems to be failing even on the one thing he was expected by the masses to succeed at because of his banking background: muh economy. I remember looking at his website before he became Prime Minister: the list of things he was campaigning on was purely economic (housing, etc.), excepting climate change, which was bolted on at the very bottom probably to appease certain types of Green Leftists.

In part, he ended up being praised by the Left precisely because he was an economist, and they laughably dumped all of their anti-capitalism to rally around him because, well, surely an economist would be better than Trump, who, after all, is not an economist.

Turns out that to simply elect a deeply capitalistic 'anti-Trump' out of Trump Derangement Syndrome was - big surprise - a poor idea. Yes, Trump did communicate an unusual expansionism at the time (we'll regain the Panama Canal, we'll get Greenland, etc.), but that has predictably totally died off while Canadians are stuck with the consequences of their irrational fears of what are ultimately Trump's unrealizable pipe dreams. (Not that the Conservatives were any better, since, for instance, a lesbian Jewess would have became Deputy Prime Minister.)

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– WeedleTLiar 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

The instant I realised all the Lefty "socialists" were going to elect and arch-banker capitalist was when I realised there was no point in even trying to make Canada into a country.

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– KyleIsThisTall 1 point 1 day ago +1 / -0

Lol, no thgey don't. This is all lying propaganda. Only the most brainwashed gullible easily manipulated virtue signalers do, and they don't do it because they understand what policies actually work.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

The good thing about 'democracy' is that oligarchs can just install a new puppet and fool the people for several more years. Compare that with if you have to put up for Saddam as long as he's alive! Terrible! People might figure out that things getting worse is being caused by the people in charge.

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– CaptainTrouble 1 point 4 days ago +1 / -0

The thing that sickens me the most is when I'm around normies and I have to bite my tongue because saying something even close to the truth leads to shock and awe among the normies then everyone tells your employer and you're fucked.

The shear lack of ability for the average Canadian to think is so low, it's unbearable.

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