I have always found it a little odd that many on the right who say with their mouths that abortion is murder, do not follow through with the actions that should naturally flow from that.
Suppose you are walking down the street, concealed carry pistol on your hip, and you turn to see a house with a large bay window. And clearly in view in that bay window is someone standing over a young child with a large knife, bringing it down in a stabbing motion with the child clearly in terror and holding its hands up to defend itself. Who among the usual types on the Right would not feel justified charging in with their pistol and either shooting the knife wielding would-be murderer or holding them at gunpoint?
Except that's exactly the situation they say is happening in an abortion clinic every day and we see maybe one person every ten years or so actually do more than talk about it. It's an interesting situation. I don't doubt people's beliefs, not exactly, but it is just strange how seemingly undiscussed, basically everyone agreed at the same time that they're not really gonna follow through with taking this as seriously as one would assume it should be.
She's currently serving at FPC Alderson, a minimum security camp in West Virginia.
I was going to post information on how to send her a care package, but those faggots won't allow her to receive anything except money to buy goyslop from their commissary. She's due for release on 10/15/2027. No word if she has a fundraiser.
It's because they're fundamentally conformist. They don't want to break the law because they respect the idea of having a law, even when it's bad.
If they were legally able to just pay enough money to have it bulldozed, legally, I have no doubt they would.
As for your stabbing example, we actually have to have "good samaritan" laws to protect people from prosecution for defending a child from a murderer because, otherwise, people wouldn't.
I've never even seen an abortion clinic. Presumably they were done at hospitals, but I wouldn't know which doctors did them. Also, it isn't like people were bashing OJ Simpsons door down.
According to national data, black women consistently have the highest abortion rates and ratios, experiencing abortions at rates nearly three to four times higher than White women. PubMed Central (PMC)
You're not lying, but my Catholic friends refuse to see the silver lining on this issue.
I have always been a little confused about the right wings opinion on abortion because right wingers complain a lot about "muh fatherless faggots" and a lot of aborted children probably would have been that if they lived.
You're pulling the usual left-wing deception of "right wingers see something going wrong and mention it...that means they HATE EVERYONE INVOLVED EVEN THE CHILDREN!"
The idea, from what I gather, is that it is better to be alive and have a shitty life than to be murdered. Which when said plainly, does make a good deal of sense. If you presume life is valuable and always preferable to not being alive for its own sake, no matter the quality of the life, being in favor of not killing as many as possible, even if they will end up having awful lives makes sense.
Though there are some curious implications when that sentiment comes from a Christian perspective. If the Bible teaches that God knows us before we are born, which it does, and implies that one's soul exists and is with God before being born, and that babies are innocent and not blemished by sin and damnation until after they reach an age of recognition and choice, the 'age of accountability', which most churches do teach and believe...then a natural consequence of that leads to an uncomfortable place: the baby is actually better off being killed and going immediately to heaven rather than being born on earth and having a normal life in which there is a non-zero chance they do not end up seeking salvation. Automatic bypassing of accountability for sin and going to heaven immediately, or having a life, sinning, being accountable for it, and being damned unless one chooses to accept Christ, which not all will.
Some portion of those who are born and live normal lives will end up not choosing salvation and will be damned, whereas if they were aborted...they skip the whole process and are in heaven with the Father. That doesn't sound bad for the baby to me. Sure, for the mother, it's an egregious and horrifying sinful act that will have to be paid or repented for. But for the baby itself, an automatic 'skip being on this shitty earth and just go straight to heaven' path seems like there are no downsides.
Jeremiah 1:5-“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you”
Galatians 1:15 “But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace…”
Ephesians 1:3-4 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.”
Not everyone believes this means the preexistence of all souls, but a lot do and it's a good point.
This is ends justify the means thinking though. Sure God could have turned the very place where Sodom and Gomorrah would be built into a lake as soon as it was built, thus saving the fate of many people who would end up being born in Sodom and Gomorrah.
If God did this for every scenario, there would be nothing that happened ever.
And because God is infinite, God could have it where a baby who is aborted is put into a simulated reality where they were not aborted and it plays out based on whether they accept Christ, as just a possibility. The fate of babies who die is mysterious, but if God says don't do something, don't do it and trust He has the answer.
The same is true of children who were sacrificed to moloch. It's highly likely the children, had they not been sacrificed would have grown up in that culture into pagans who ultimately end up in hell. How does the Bible treat the Moloch sacrifices? Horrible, because ends don't justify means and we're playing God by aborting based on what we assume happens to babies.
Could it be that just as there are levels to closeness to God with angels, with some being the ones that fly around with their eyes covered, flying around God, that in heaven there is far more glory in being in heaven having accepted Jesus than having been aborted. Not that anyone would be sad in heaven, but in heaven some have more than others (wood, hay stubble vs jewels). It may be that the glory of being in heaven because of accepting Jesus is so incredible that it is worth the incredible risk of facing an eternity of hell.
To put it in another way, think of a person who's protected from all things. They live in a safe padded cell. Their risk from murder, and disease and everything is effectively zero. Then you have another person, living out a life, but they risk murder, accidents, dismemberment, etc. Who do we say had a richer life? Not the safe person, but the person who had risk in their life.
If that's true here, it might be true in heaven. It might be that babies in heaven are made ignorant of how much better it would be to be in heaven with that risk afforded to them, and while it's better to be in heaven than in hell, it is better to be in heaven with the risk of hell than in heaven without the risk of hell. This is just a possibility. Things of this nature we just go with trusting Him like when God questioned Job and revealed to Job through the questions how little we can grasp of reality, particularly the supernatural reality.
I have always found it a little odd that many on the right who say with their mouths that abortion is murder, do not follow through with the actions that should naturally flow from that.
Suppose you are walking down the street, concealed carry pistol on your hip, and you turn to see a house with a large bay window. And clearly in view in that bay window is someone standing over a young child with a large knife, bringing it down in a stabbing motion with the child clearly in terror and holding its hands up to defend itself. Who among the usual types on the Right would not feel justified charging in with their pistol and either shooting the knife wielding would-be murderer or holding them at gunpoint?
Except that's exactly the situation they say is happening in an abortion clinic every day and we see maybe one person every ten years or so actually do more than talk about it. It's an interesting situation. I don't doubt people's beliefs, not exactly, but it is just strange how seemingly undiscussed, basically everyone agreed at the same time that they're not really gonna follow through with taking this as seriously as one would assume it should be.
Look up Scott Roeder, shot the piece of shit late term abortionist in church.
She's currently serving at FPC Alderson, a minimum security camp in West Virginia.
I was going to post information on how to send her a care package, but those faggots won't allow her to receive anything except money to buy goyslop from their commissary. She's due for release on 10/15/2027. No word if she has a fundraiser.
It's because they're fundamentally conformist. They don't want to break the law because they respect the idea of having a law, even when it's bad.
If they were legally able to just pay enough money to have it bulldozed, legally, I have no doubt they would.
As for your stabbing example, we actually have to have "good samaritan" laws to protect people from prosecution for defending a child from a murderer because, otherwise, people wouldn't.
I've never even seen an abortion clinic. Presumably they were done at hospitals, but I wouldn't know which doctors did them. Also, it isn't like people were bashing OJ Simpsons door down.
I'm glad they abort their children even though I'm against the practice in principal. 80%+ would be useless mouths and/or commie faggots.
You're not lying, but my Catholic friends refuse to see the silver lining on this issue.
Fuck off.
Not only are you morally bankrupt, you are too stupid to understand statistics. Most of the children aborted are white.
How do you know that? Are you going provide some facts or details or just run your mouth?
Can you provide more information on this? I’d like to read more.
I have always been a little confused about the right wings opinion on abortion because right wingers complain a lot about "muh fatherless faggots" and a lot of aborted children probably would have been that if they lived.
Crocodile tears.
You're pulling the usual left-wing deception of "right wingers see something going wrong and mention it...that means they HATE EVERYONE INVOLVED EVEN THE CHILDREN!"
I view left wingers as being retarded hypocrites too.
""I should be allowed to be a whore who murders her children cuz muh freedumb, but don't you dare deport those illegals!"
The idea, from what I gather, is that it is better to be alive and have a shitty life than to be murdered. Which when said plainly, does make a good deal of sense. If you presume life is valuable and always preferable to not being alive for its own sake, no matter the quality of the life, being in favor of not killing as many as possible, even if they will end up having awful lives makes sense.
Though there are some curious implications when that sentiment comes from a Christian perspective. If the Bible teaches that God knows us before we are born, which it does, and implies that one's soul exists and is with God before being born, and that babies are innocent and not blemished by sin and damnation until after they reach an age of recognition and choice, the 'age of accountability', which most churches do teach and believe...then a natural consequence of that leads to an uncomfortable place: the baby is actually better off being killed and going immediately to heaven rather than being born on earth and having a normal life in which there is a non-zero chance they do not end up seeking salvation. Automatic bypassing of accountability for sin and going to heaven immediately, or having a life, sinning, being accountable for it, and being damned unless one chooses to accept Christ, which not all will.
Some portion of those who are born and live normal lives will end up not choosing salvation and will be damned, whereas if they were aborted...they skip the whole process and are in heaven with the Father. That doesn't sound bad for the baby to me. Sure, for the mother, it's an egregious and horrifying sinful act that will have to be paid or repented for. But for the baby itself, an automatic 'skip being on this shitty earth and just go straight to heaven' path seems like there are no downsides.
The idea is that it shouldn't be legal to murder innocent people.
Preexistence of the soul is not taught by any Christian denomination that I am aware of
Jeremiah 1:5-“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you”
Galatians 1:15 “But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace…”
Ephesians 1:3-4 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.”
Not everyone believes this means the preexistence of all souls, but a lot do and it's a good point.
Larping nigga
Where do you get this idea? Man is born with original sin and can only be redeemed through faith in Jesus Christ.
This is ends justify the means thinking though. Sure God could have turned the very place where Sodom and Gomorrah would be built into a lake as soon as it was built, thus saving the fate of many people who would end up being born in Sodom and Gomorrah.
If God did this for every scenario, there would be nothing that happened ever.
And because God is infinite, God could have it where a baby who is aborted is put into a simulated reality where they were not aborted and it plays out based on whether they accept Christ, as just a possibility. The fate of babies who die is mysterious, but if God says don't do something, don't do it and trust He has the answer.
The same is true of children who were sacrificed to moloch. It's highly likely the children, had they not been sacrificed would have grown up in that culture into pagans who ultimately end up in hell. How does the Bible treat the Moloch sacrifices? Horrible, because ends don't justify means and we're playing God by aborting based on what we assume happens to babies.
Could it be that just as there are levels to closeness to God with angels, with some being the ones that fly around with their eyes covered, flying around God, that in heaven there is far more glory in being in heaven having accepted Jesus than having been aborted. Not that anyone would be sad in heaven, but in heaven some have more than others (wood, hay stubble vs jewels). It may be that the glory of being in heaven because of accepting Jesus is so incredible that it is worth the incredible risk of facing an eternity of hell.
To put it in another way, think of a person who's protected from all things. They live in a safe padded cell. Their risk from murder, and disease and everything is effectively zero. Then you have another person, living out a life, but they risk murder, accidents, dismemberment, etc. Who do we say had a richer life? Not the safe person, but the person who had risk in their life.
If that's true here, it might be true in heaven. It might be that babies in heaven are made ignorant of how much better it would be to be in heaven with that risk afforded to them, and while it's better to be in heaven than in hell, it is better to be in heaven with the risk of hell than in heaven without the risk of hell. This is just a possibility. Things of this nature we just go with trusting Him like when God questioned Job and revealed to Job through the questions how little we can grasp of reality, particularly the supernatural reality.
Yeah but I have seen right wingers hate niggers, faggots, trannies, and "muh fatherless" people in general.
The majority of abortions would have become that.
I have seen some right wingers even hate "muh fatherless" people even if they grow up to be right wing.
It seems weird to me to cry for an unborn child if it is murdered but hate it if it lives.
If someone murders a thief then it is still murder. Right wings generally think life and families are both important.