I watched Universe once. I remember almost nothing of the show now, but at the time I was so fascinated by their choice to make the military commander a complete fuckup. I'd be curious, if I watched it again, to see if that was the intent. I'd be willing to bet it was meant to be a "no right answers" kind of thing, but I distinctly remember him screwing up real obvious calls and not cut out for command, like Gorman in Aliens.
Universe got muddied down for almost the majority of the series, trying to be too much like BSG.
Somewhere towards the end-ish I think of its run? Not sure actually when, but at some point the show actually managed to pitch a really fascinating core premise: That the Discovery's real core mission was to try to investigate what the Ancients had discovered was some kind of pattern embedded into the universe's background radiation, that seemed to be of intelligent design.
Yeah, I think it's fair to say that the biggest "shame" of Universe was that right when it was starting to get some feet and figure out what the fans and audience actually might want, it was canned.
Which is a double edged sword. It absolutely deserved to be canned. It failed to be a good show. But right at the end you could see glimpses of potential that if they stuck with it, maybe they'd have worked out.
That said, I still found it baffling that they killed off all of the Lucien Alliance members, effectively undoing the whole arc of having them on the ship anyway.
I also remember thinking how odd it was that they used the Lucien Alliance as a major plot element there, I guess because I was never really a big fan of them from Stargate SG1. Not that their premise in SG1 was bad, it made sense, but for me, something about their execution was just a bit "meh" from the get-go.
Sort of a side-note, but I have to ask if I'm the only one who thought the young "wiz genius" character in Universe looked a lot like a younger and fatter version of the actor who played Chakotay in Star Trek Voyager?
Universe fascinated me as a pastiche of the moment it was made. There was the “documentary style” direction (shaky camera, occasionally out of focus) lifted from the BSG reboot. Episodes often ended with slow pans across characters looking pensive while some slow song played, which is how a lot of drama shows ended. Plots were driven by mystery boxes like LOST or Heroes. Requisite LGBT representation.
These days we’d accuse the show of being generated by AI since it was so much NOT its own thing.
It was very BSG-esque and most of the drama was forced and walking on stilts. Particularly the conflict between that military commander and the mad scientist.
Absolutely fucking this.
I like the Stargate movie.
I like SG-1.
I like Atlantis.
I find Universe mindnumbingly droll for literally being the episode 200 joke about making Stargate 90210 where all the cast are younger and fucking.
I'm never watching Origins.
Unironically how they introduce the main military dude, fucking another character [with massive tits] in a cupboard.
I watched Universe once. I remember almost nothing of the show now, but at the time I was so fascinated by their choice to make the military commander a complete fuckup. I'd be curious, if I watched it again, to see if that was the intent. I'd be willing to bet it was meant to be a "no right answers" kind of thing, but I distinctly remember him screwing up real obvious calls and not cut out for command, like Gorman in Aliens.
Universe got muddied down for almost the majority of the series, trying to be too much like BSG.
Somewhere towards the end-ish I think of its run? Not sure actually when, but at some point the show actually managed to pitch a really fascinating core premise: That the Discovery's real core mission was to try to investigate what the Ancients had discovered was some kind of pattern embedded into the universe's background radiation, that seemed to be of intelligent design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmr80Bf0zg
That's the kind of hook that should've been in the show nearly from the start.
Yeah, I think it's fair to say that the biggest "shame" of Universe was that right when it was starting to get some feet and figure out what the fans and audience actually might want, it was canned.
Which is a double edged sword. It absolutely deserved to be canned. It failed to be a good show. But right at the end you could see glimpses of potential that if they stuck with it, maybe they'd have worked out.
That said, I still found it baffling that they killed off all of the Lucien Alliance members, effectively undoing the whole arc of having them on the ship anyway.
I also remember thinking how odd it was that they used the Lucien Alliance as a major plot element there, I guess because I was never really a big fan of them from Stargate SG1. Not that their premise in SG1 was bad, it made sense, but for me, something about their execution was just a bit "meh" from the get-go.
Sort of a side-note, but I have to ask if I'm the only one who thought the young "wiz genius" character in Universe looked a lot like a younger and fatter version of the actor who played Chakotay in Star Trek Voyager?
Universe fascinated me as a pastiche of the moment it was made. There was the “documentary style” direction (shaky camera, occasionally out of focus) lifted from the BSG reboot. Episodes often ended with slow pans across characters looking pensive while some slow song played, which is how a lot of drama shows ended. Plots were driven by mystery boxes like LOST or Heroes. Requisite LGBT representation. These days we’d accuse the show of being generated by AI since it was so much NOT its own thing.
It was very BSG-esque and most of the drama was forced and walking on stilts. Particularly the conflict between that military commander and the mad scientist.
Origins was actually pretty boring and awful.