Universe got muddied down for almost the majority of the series, trying to be too much like BSG.
Somewhere towards the end-ish I think of its run? Not sure actually when, but at some point the show actually managed to pitch a really fascinating core premise: That the Discovery's real core mission was to try to investigate what the Ancients had discovered was some kind of pattern embedded into the universe's background radiation, that seemed to be of intelligent design.
Yeah, I think it's fair to say that the biggest "shame" of Universe was that right when it was starting to get some feet and figure out what the fans and audience actually might want, it was canned.
Which is a double edged sword. It absolutely deserved to be canned. It failed to be a good show. But right at the end you could see glimpses of potential that if they stuck with it, maybe they'd have worked out.
That said, I still found it baffling that they killed off all of the Lucien Alliance members, effectively undoing the whole arc of having them on the ship anyway.
I also remember thinking how odd it was that they used the Lucien Alliance as a major plot element there, I guess because I was never really a big fan of them from Stargate SG1. Not that their premise in SG1 was bad, it made sense, but for me, something about their execution was just a bit "meh" from the get-go.
Sort of a side-note, but I have to ask if I'm the only one who thought the young "wiz genius" character in Universe looked a lot like a younger and fatter version of the actor who played Chakotay in Star Trek Voyager?
The Lucien Alliance was definitely poorly handled. I guess the reason they were used was because the goa'uld were pretty much defeated and the replicators make a formidable threat, but not necessarily a nemesis or rival since they lack personality. I think the idea to use them was fine, it was just the execution.
And on that side note, I never really watched Star Trek all that much, and never touched Voyager, but I can see how they look alike. Personally, I didn't hate Eli as a counterpart to Rush. I get that Eli was definitely the audience insert we're meant to align or identify with, but even then, I think he was mostly fine once they moved past the whole swooning for Chloe crap. Just sucks how much time was dedicated to the drama.
Yeah, I didn't mind Eli that much. I just couldn't shake that look-alike connection once I made it, kind of left an aftertaste of amusement whenever I saw him on screen. Certainly a far more interesting character than Wesley Crusher ever was.
And the whole thing between Eli and Chloe reminded me of the SG1 clip-show episode where they jokingly portrayed a version of SG1 if it was a teenage drama.
Universe got muddied down for almost the majority of the series, trying to be too much like BSG.
Somewhere towards the end-ish I think of its run? Not sure actually when, but at some point the show actually managed to pitch a really fascinating core premise: That the Discovery's real core mission was to try to investigate what the Ancients had discovered was some kind of pattern embedded into the universe's background radiation, that seemed to be of intelligent design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmr80Bf0zg
That's the kind of hook that should've been in the show nearly from the start.
Yeah, I think it's fair to say that the biggest "shame" of Universe was that right when it was starting to get some feet and figure out what the fans and audience actually might want, it was canned.
Which is a double edged sword. It absolutely deserved to be canned. It failed to be a good show. But right at the end you could see glimpses of potential that if they stuck with it, maybe they'd have worked out.
That said, I still found it baffling that they killed off all of the Lucien Alliance members, effectively undoing the whole arc of having them on the ship anyway.
I also remember thinking how odd it was that they used the Lucien Alliance as a major plot element there, I guess because I was never really a big fan of them from Stargate SG1. Not that their premise in SG1 was bad, it made sense, but for me, something about their execution was just a bit "meh" from the get-go.
Sort of a side-note, but I have to ask if I'm the only one who thought the young "wiz genius" character in Universe looked a lot like a younger and fatter version of the actor who played Chakotay in Star Trek Voyager?
The Lucien Alliance was definitely poorly handled. I guess the reason they were used was because the goa'uld were pretty much defeated and the replicators make a formidable threat, but not necessarily a nemesis or rival since they lack personality. I think the idea to use them was fine, it was just the execution.
And on that side note, I never really watched Star Trek all that much, and never touched Voyager, but I can see how they look alike. Personally, I didn't hate Eli as a counterpart to Rush. I get that Eli was definitely the audience insert we're meant to align or identify with, but even then, I think he was mostly fine once they moved past the whole swooning for Chloe crap. Just sucks how much time was dedicated to the drama.
Yeah, I didn't mind Eli that much. I just couldn't shake that look-alike connection once I made it, kind of left an aftertaste of amusement whenever I saw him on screen. Certainly a far more interesting character than Wesley Crusher ever was.
And the whole thing between Eli and Chloe reminded me of the SG1 clip-show episode where they jokingly portrayed a version of SG1 if it was a teenage drama.