It seems like everything is happening at once with these fools.
Johnny Somali: Jailed.
Sneako: Attacked.
Clavicular: Overdosed.
Sneako was just attacked by some other random brown person on stream. However, he appears to be fine.
Clavicular just overdosed in a restaurant on what people are claiming was GHB. Looked serious: seizures, drifting in and out of consciousness. He is now hospitalized, his 'friends' claim that he is fine.
Nevertheless, the fact that these and other fools (e.g. the pro-child porn, 'democratic socialist' Vaush and the 'non-binary', 'bisexual', literal cocksucker [complete with video proof online], and deadbeat dad [what does his son think of his father's cock-sucking skills?] Destiny [who also overdosed on crystal meth several years ago]) are the leading role models for young people in today's world is really quite something.
Try telling your ancestors not only that these people exist, but that they are who people are really following in the 2020s. That they have large followings. And if it isn't some streamer, they're following some drug-addicted, porn-addicted celebrity like Kanye West, who is absolutely no better.
We REALLY didn't know how good we had it when Pewdiepie was the most popular Youtuber for younger audiences....
These people you mention, I don't think people follow them as mentors or anything close to that, they follow them because they are lolcows, they are walking punch lines given how the three mentioned earlier, their chats LOVE to see them humiliated and even hurt and donate to that effect.
I think the issue is young people LACK role models, as they the few there either retire (Pewdiepie or outdoorboys) go insane on some weird self destruction arc or literally murdered (Charlie Kirk), there is a need for older positive male role models but the ones that can do that are usually focused on their own kids (which I can never fault them for) or worried if they get to big they'll be targeted for bullshit by insane leftist feminists.
Which led to a lot of wolves in sheep's clothing pretending to be good role models, being found out leaving young people jaded.
You hit the nail on the head about a lack of role models.
The 70s and 80s had plenty of role models that covered various facets of encouraging different areas of masculinity:
Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee and Jean Claude encouraged young males to take up martial arts and encouraged discipline, self-mastery and martial excellence.
Arnold, Stallone, Dolph Lundgren and Carl Weathers encouraged physical health, gym culture, and good health.
Charles Bronson, Clint Eastwood, James Caan and Burt Reynolds spearheaded the take-no-shyte, hard-nosed, stoic approach to problem solving and criminal justice.
Michael Caine and Sean Connery encouraged the young lads to be suave and debonair, and how to treat the lasses with "respect" with a good smack or two.
Michael Landon, Christopher Hewett and Michael Gross encouraged the lads to be steadfast, loyal, and honourable men who put the family first.
Many of the on-screen personas also replicated their off-screen personas as well.
All of that has been subverted with degenerate, self-serving, soy-filled, simpy, cuckolded, hedonistic retards of the modern era.
Many of us old hats REALLY didn't know how good we had it.
I'm just saying there is a reason Bob Ross videos were big on twitch and imagine how much better young people would be if they had a Mr Rodgers..
He just came across as silly when I'd observe other people watching him 14 or so years ago, but didn't strike me as a degenerate and harmful influence. The current crop of influencers are noticeably worse.
I have trouble believing that that many people are operating according to that kind of KiwiFarms and/or 'hatewatching' logic. Sure, I'm sure that some portion of their viewer base are just malicious people out there that really do just follow these people because they like watching a trainwreck slowly unfold, but such people are of particularly low character.
Indeed, I don't think anyone even does this except a kind who may feel a certain psychological 'need' to routinely remind themselves that someone is worse off than them in some way so that they feel good by comparison. For it is simply easier to tear others down than to raise yourself up. While I'm not sold on the concrete existence of such a personality type - e.g. does it have biological underpinnings, is it a product of dysfunctional social structures, etc. - I find the possible existence of such a personality type and people unsettling.
Anyone who follows the likes of Clavicular just to egg them on in the hope that they'll be arrested, overdose, etc. is even scummier than they are, lower even than the lowest of animals.
I don't like or care about him on any personal level, but he personifies something endemic: young people wasting away on drugs. The only difference is that he's a high-profile case and thus a little bit more than just another number, another statistic, unlike the millions of nameless young people who are dying or have died from drugs over the past few decades, most of whom have amounted to nothing but yet another increment on burgeoning drug deaths statistics.
It's because our society doesn't really have anything worth living for so people are just looking for quick dopamine highs from entertainment and drugs.
I think the popularity of all kinds of celebrity is a little exaggerated these days. The average guy has no clue who Vaush is. Destiny, Sneako, and Clavicular are at a higher tier of fame, but not billboard fame. They all subsist on the same population of high-engagement online users. Sure, they hoover up some of the kid audience, but I don't see them grabbing a majority. To take another example, Brandon Herrera is popular but still niche. I'm sure some kids into guns are big fans of Brandon, but most of them probably don't know who he is.
The celebrities who are super well-known are the obvious normie answers. Gabby *Douglas, Ronaldinho, and other blue-ribbon athletes are probably the biggest role models for kids. Legacy celebs like the Rock have global recognition, but they're on their way out as far as influence. Likewise Kanye is a household name, but everyone knows he's crazy.
I feel like the Nelk Boys have huge reach with teenagers (or at least had), but barely anyone knows them on this forum because despite being a party and prank channel, they haven't run over anyone with a cybertruck or debated about Islam.
laughs in middle age I don't know a single person you just named.
I'm assuming you didn't see the Rock in there lol
That's just another day ending in Y for streamers these days.
Dead streamers bring a smile to my face.
IP2 probably got sneako, idk really, but that's what they do.
You forgot Sykkuno (#MeToo'd). You might be a bit too old for that crowd, though.
I always saw that smug cunts face and knew he was a fake ass dork. Performative male final boss type shit.
And here we are, the classic right wing meme about simpering little femboy feminists actually just being the scientific "sneaky fucker" that every living male animal despises.