Try telling your ancestors not only that these people exist, but that they are who people are really following in the 2020s. That they have large followings. And if it isn't some streamer, they're following some drug-addicted, porn-addicted celebrity like Kanye West, who is absolutely no better.

I think the popularity of all kinds of celebrity is a little exaggerated these days. The average guy has no clue who Vaush is. Destiny, Sneako, and Clavicular are at a higher tier of fame, but not billboard fame. They all subsist on the same population of high-engagement online users. Sure, they hoover up some of the kid audience, but I don't see them grabbing a majority. To take another example, Brandon Herrera is popular but still niche. I'm sure some kids into guns are big fans of Brandon, but most of them probably don't know who he is.

The celebrities who are super well-known are the obvious normie answers. Gabby *Douglas, Ronaldinho, and other blue-ribbon athletes are probably the biggest role models for kids. Legacy celebs like the Rock have global recognition, but they're on their way out as far as influence. Likewise Kanye is a household name, but everyone knows he's crazy.

I feel like the Nelk Boys have huge reach with teenagers (or at least had), but barely anyone knows them on this forum because despite being a party and prank channel, they haven't run over anyone with a cybertruck or debated about Islam.