Turkish Foreign Minister, Hakan Fidan:
"As you know, after Iran, Israel cannot live without an enemy. It has to develop a rhetoric to influence public opinion and others. We see that not only the Netanyahu administration, but also some people in the opposition—not everyone, but some—are in pursuit of declaring Turkey a new enemy, in terms of political discourse. This is actually a new issue in Israel that is first brought up as a necessity of street politics, and then attempted to be transformed into a state strategy."
I've always suspected that Trump is trying to find a way to end NATO such that Turkey won't be included in what replaces it specifically so Israel can attack Turkey.
For those who don't know, part of Turkey is included in "Greater Israel".
I once predicted to a family member that something would happen and it did happen. It was amazing.
I once predicted I would shit myself if we didn't get to a bathroom soon.
Did you? Don't keep us in suspense!
Shooting fish in a barrel
They'll obviously go after Turkey so long as Erdogan remains charge, possibly even just if the AKP remains in charge. As for Greater Israel, I suspect that even more Leftist and Centrist groups like the CHP will fight any foreign group who tries to seize a part of Turkey, for the simple reason that nationalism is more powerful in Turkey than in most countries (due to Kemalism, etc.), even if it is often just rhetorical (e.g. Kilicdaroglu suddenly calling himself a 'nationalist' in his efforts to defeat Erdogan during the last presidential run-off).
Let's rewind to 2016 or so. Turkey seriously looked as though it was going to enter the EU.
It would have. For the 'Far-Right', that looked like an impending disaster at the time. Turks - all 85-90 million or so of them - would be able to move around much of Europe with little to no restriction.
But then there was a failed coup against the AKP. Then the AKP-led government won a 2017 referendum that switched Turkey's political system in a way that would prolong Erdogan's rule and give him more power.
The sense that Erdogan was some sort of 'Turkish Fuhrer' grew among the EU-types. Relations between Turkey and the European Union soured. Consequently, we were all spared from the Turks becoming part of the European Union. A case of being 'accidentally based'. All because 'muh fascism'.
But that is contingent on Erdogan and the AKP remaining in power. The EU loves the Kurds and most of their political movements (e.g. the Left-Wing HDP), the Left-liberal CHP, indeed, basically anyone and everyone that is non-aligned with Erdogan. If the 'conservative' AKP and its allies (e.g. the 'nationalist' MHP) leave power, you can rest assured that Turkey will enter the European Union very quickly.
This is why I have always been an Erdogan 'supporter' (yes, even if he does stupid things like calling Netanyahu 'Hitler'). I know what will happen if he leaves power. I want Erdogan and the AKP to rule Turkey for the indefinite future, because that is the only realistic way the EU won't admit Turkey.
Other than Slovakia's Smer-SD, and with PiS and Fidesz out of power, there is probably no ruling party anywhere that the EU hates more than the AKP. However, I think it is practically inevitable that Erdogan and the AKP will leave power and the pro-EU CHP are returned to power, with Turkey entering the EU shortly after.
That raises an interesting scenario: Israel aggressing against Turkey, by that point, an EU member state. In that sense, it might actually be in Israel's greatest interest to ensure that Turkey never joins the EU. Then again, Israel seems to be able to do whatever it wants even when the masses all across the political spectrum are growingly distasteful of it. Thus I suppose it is not impossible, the following scenario: Israel (with or without American help) invades this Turkey, the EU condemns it but does not actually do anything, Israel seizes chunks of Turkey and millions of Turks flee to Europe with Israel's encouragement (because, after all, they're essentially 'European' now, and no longer Turkish), and the rest of Turkey, knowing that it cannot defeat some sort of Israeli-American military force, renounces its ownership of the occupied areas to Israel.
Of course, this scenario relies on all sorts of factors, e.g. America continuing to be pro-Israel (insofar as the political classes are concerned, this seems highly likely); the EU actually doing nothing to help Turkey (some possibility); and Israel deciding that it can take on a country substantially more powerful than Lebanon or even Syria (with America on side, Turkey would clearly lose, but Turkey would be quite resilient against a lone Israeli invasion).
Hah! Very well said. Great write up, thank you.
In my undergrad, more than 20 years ago, I wrote an essay talking about why the EU should admit Turkey. This was JUST before AKP came to power. My idea at the time was that by joining the secular EU, the secular forces in Turkey might be able to hold off the religious extremists. I quite liked some of the secular parties. I thought the presence of Turkey in the EU might even help galvanize some of the Christians of Europe.
I was a retard, what can I say. AKP is one of the best things to ever happen to Europe.
I've seen a similar beginning shift with regard to narratives being pushed against Turkey. If true, then Turkey deserves it, as they were a quiet ally and big aid to ISIS when they were enacting a globohomo backed civil war in Syria, resulting in the deaths of millions.
It's probably going to be Qatar next
Greater Israel project. We've known about it for years. Arafat was talking about it decades ago
Yup, that’s all you need to say, look at this map of greater Israel imposed over a map of the Middle East with its current existing borders. All of the nations who’s borders will need to be redrawn to give Israel their greater Israel are all sure to be attacked and to have their leadership overthrown until there is a puppet regime in place who will gladly cede the territory that Israel wants for their greater Israel project. Any government who isn’t overthrown by jews most definitely already has a puppet regime in place due to Israel’s meddling in that nation in the past.
Turkey has what, the 2nd largest standing army in the world behind the US? Good luck lmao.
So the only army bigger than Turkey's is the one that does whatever Israel wants? Sounds like Turkey is on the menu.
Doubt it, the US can’t even take on Iran without crying for help. The ZOG army is too bitched and trooned out to be effective anymore.
Lolol
Besides, a standing army is of little consequence these days, and as always, technology matters most.
Turkey has the largest standing Army in Europe(excluding Russia) how do they think they can handle that exactly.
Based on 2026 military strength rankings, the order from largest to smallest is Russia, Turkey, and Iran. Russia holds a significantly higher global ranking (top 3) with superior equipment, while Turkey and Iran follow, with Turkey having a stronger, more modern force than Iran
They'll attempt to sanction them, but no bombs will drop
Israel is stretched too thin to start a war with a major country that has modern military
For now...
They're at war on 3 fronts, trying to open up a 4th is just plain retarded
Not to mention it might sway the other sand nigger countries away from having an "Partnership" with these devils
You act like this is shocking, this is a country founded on terrorism against the west, and which attacked egypt in a false flag to get the uk involved in a war
They're evil. Attacking turkey is a step down from the shit they've done.
turkey should never have been let into nato anyway
If they did, I'd like to see how NATO explains this. I'm sure they'll cuck for the jews hard.
Honestly If the Jews and the Ottommans go at it, who cares?
Because the jews will win and it'll make them more powerful.
Jews can barely contend with sand people in an open air prison (Gaza) fighting against dudes in sandels with tunnel made RPG's
You think they can take on a "first world" islamic country??
The USA will fight it for them just like Iran.
Fat chance servicemen will line up to die at the shores of Gallipoli for the second time... Then again... Amerimutts are barely even human
As long Johnny/Tyrone/Jose gets to blow up hajis he doesn't care
Zero fuqs they dont have the bodies to do this !
When they say Israel will attack Turkey, they mean America will attack Turkey.
No, Israhell will attack Turkey and then call us to finish the fight for them.
Like the toxic girlfriend who picks fights at the bar and then calls her hapless man over.
"It's the same picture."
Literally.
Which is interesting since we have a base there with nukes.
Will they have the balls to use them?