I've been trying to draw attention to this phenomenon for a while; first generation immigrants have tons of kids but their kids have birth rates as low or lower than our own. That's one of the reasons immigration can't fix population decline.
The bigger question is: why don't people have kids in the West? It's impossible to argue that we have worse material conditions or healthcare than Africa or Asia. So what is it?
Estrogen in the water supply? Toxic culture? Anti-natalist policies?
Not just the West, birth rates are also cratering in the East as well, and mostly for the same reasons: cultural influence.
The reasons for even being in a relationship have been erased, unless you're religious and see the need to follow the first edict of the Bible: be fruitful and multiply.
In secularism there is no reason to be married and no reason to multiply. Majority of today's women (in the East and the West) have been convinced that abortions are the most important "issue" they face, and they have also been convinced that the thing they were made for (giving birth) is an inconvenience.
Couple this with nonstop propaganda across every medium of media convincing women that they: "don't need no man", are "strong and independent", that they need to focus on a "career and education", and that they can "always start a family later".
This kind of heavy-handed cajoling has worked wonders on wenches. Check the polls that were posted here about how Conservative White men value family more than any other demographic of women.
The other major problem is -- as you astutely pointed out -- is the emasculation of men in media, and the demasculation of men in behaviour, pushed by the gynocentrism of the zeitgeist.
Everywhere in media blokes are being told that masculinity is "toxic", and have been fed all kinds of BS to raise estrogen levels and decrease testosterone. Lots of the average young blokes are EXTREMELY blue pilled -- though it appears straight White lads who at least attempt to get informed are being red pilled and taking the appropriate measures to fix the issue.
But lots of the lads are weak and deify femininity, hence the simp epidemic. And females deify solipsistic materialism.
So if you have the young lads worshiping women, who in turn only worship themselves -- you end up in a Mouse Utopia situation.
As others pointed out in other threads, this all gets fixed when White Christian lads put their foot down, tell the lasses "No!" and do what needs to be done to correct course. Hopefully the data in this post is a slight indicator of that beginning to happen.
Majority of today's women (in the East and the West) have been convinced that abortions are the most important "issue" they face, and they have also been convinced that the thing they were made for (giving birth) is an inconvenience.
Even the ones that want kids don't want them until after 15+ years on the cock carousel. Replacement level birth rates are a pipe dream when women aren't having kids until after 30 even if you discount the insane level of female entitlement the CC creates and the all the obstacles it causes on the male side of the equation.
So if you have the young lads worshiping women, who in turn only worship themselves
I've been noticing this a lot, even among (maybe even especially among) Christian conservative men. Men essentially have nothing to live for except worshipping women, at least according to modern societal morals, and so we have nothing but pervs and simps. Men as a whole need to start taking back control and doing it unashamedly.
There are maybe only two or three content creators that actually call this out for what it is, and only one (Dave Hammond -- even though he still married a former lesbian whore) who tells men to simply STOP chasing women and de-center women and relationships altogether.
Every other channel out there, forum, and marriage counseling community out there all tell men that "women are the prize". So young lads center themselves around working, evolving, and leveling up for the sake of women rather than for the sake of self, or productivity, or discovery, or to evolve.
they need to focus on a "career and education", and that they can "always start a family later".
I think this is massively understated. Check the timeline of a career woman.
18yo, beginning of baby window: she's looking at potential colleges, not mates.
22yo, prime baby time: graduated, now has $30,000 in debt and no assets, she's looking for a job, still no husband
27yo, getting late: if she put $500 against the loan each month, 0% interest, she's now out of debt. Still no net value. If she's found a husband, she has time for 1-2 kids before things get complicated. If she wants kids at all, school was a waste of time.
29yo, last chance: she focusses everything on finding a husband and gets one locked down in two years; one kid, maybe it's already too late. If she's still working at the same rate, she's got $6000 in savings; almost enough for a used car.
30yo, the wall: no house, no car, if she's had a kid she's paying for daycare and there's no more saving. Unless the husband wants to carry this "girlboss", divorce will come soon.
Feminists and the dual income economy. The entire trajectory of the decline in birth rates in the US is nearly 1:1 with feminism and the civil rights movement. This also tracks in all first world nations.
The idea that perpetual economic growth is possible is another one when clearly it can never be the case. They'll keep squeezing us until total collapse happens.
Housing is also a big factor. When people can't afford a permanent place to live, especially when the average age of first ownership is so high, you get a big delay in marriage and having children. Add in the broken culture, crap economy, propaganda that you need to be in the perfect place financially before you have kids, among other things.
Eh, maybe. Personally, I've got two teenagers in a two bedroom apartment and we make it work. I've seen immigrants squeeze three or four kids into the same space I have.
I think this is a propaganda thing. Maybe it's different in the States, but raising kids in Canada is actually pretty cheap. I don't think I've ever had to buy brand new clothes for them, other than undergarments, because there's just so much lightly used stuff everywhere. Ditto with toys. And, because no one is having kids but biology is still a thing, women constantly try to buy things for my kids. Not just family, like arms-length aquaintances. The biggest expense is food but the government gives up to $600 per kid per month so, whatever.
So yeah, I think what you are describing is the propaganda that stops people having kids, rather than the reality.
Because every single woman on the planet is a whore at heart. When left to their own devices, they will choose the cock carousel over raising a family every time. There is a reason they have been treated as property in every functional society in the history of mankind.
I've been trying to draw attention to this phenomenon for a while; first generation immigrants have tons of kids but their kids have birth rates as low or lower than our own. That's one of the reasons immigration can't fix population decline.
The bigger question is: why don't people have kids in the West? It's impossible to argue that we have worse material conditions or healthcare than Africa or Asia. So what is it?
Estrogen in the water supply? Toxic culture? Anti-natalist policies?
Not just the West, birth rates are also cratering in the East as well, and mostly for the same reasons: cultural influence.
The reasons for even being in a relationship have been erased, unless you're religious and see the need to follow the first edict of the Bible: be fruitful and multiply.
In secularism there is no reason to be married and no reason to multiply. Majority of today's women (in the East and the West) have been convinced that abortions are the most important "issue" they face, and they have also been convinced that the thing they were made for (giving birth) is an inconvenience.
Couple this with nonstop propaganda across every medium of media convincing women that they: "don't need no man", are "strong and independent", that they need to focus on a "career and education", and that they can "always start a family later".
This kind of heavy-handed cajoling has worked wonders on wenches. Check the polls that were posted here about how Conservative White men value family more than any other demographic of women.
The other major problem is -- as you astutely pointed out -- is the emasculation of men in media, and the demasculation of men in behaviour, pushed by the gynocentrism of the zeitgeist.
Everywhere in media blokes are being told that masculinity is "toxic", and have been fed all kinds of BS to raise estrogen levels and decrease testosterone. Lots of the average young blokes are EXTREMELY blue pilled -- though it appears straight White lads who at least attempt to get informed are being red pilled and taking the appropriate measures to fix the issue.
But lots of the lads are weak and deify femininity, hence the simp epidemic. And females deify solipsistic materialism.
So if you have the young lads worshiping women, who in turn only worship themselves -- you end up in a Mouse Utopia situation.
As others pointed out in other threads, this all gets fixed when White Christian lads put their foot down, tell the lasses "No!" and do what needs to be done to correct course. Hopefully the data in this post is a slight indicator of that beginning to happen.
Even the ones that want kids don't want them until after 15+ years on the cock carousel. Replacement level birth rates are a pipe dream when women aren't having kids until after 30 even if you discount the insane level of female entitlement the CC creates and the all the obstacles it causes on the male side of the equation.
I've been noticing this a lot, even among (maybe even especially among) Christian conservative men. Men essentially have nothing to live for except worshipping women, at least according to modern societal morals, and so we have nothing but pervs and simps. Men as a whole need to start taking back control and doing it unashamedly.
Absolutely true.
There are maybe only two or three content creators that actually call this out for what it is, and only one (Dave Hammond -- even though he still married a former lesbian whore) who tells men to simply STOP chasing women and de-center women and relationships altogether.
Every other channel out there, forum, and marriage counseling community out there all tell men that "women are the prize". So young lads center themselves around working, evolving, and leveling up for the sake of women rather than for the sake of self, or productivity, or discovery, or to evolve.
I think this is massively understated. Check the timeline of a career woman.
18yo, beginning of baby window: she's looking at potential colleges, not mates.
22yo, prime baby time: graduated, now has $30,000 in debt and no assets, she's looking for a job, still no husband
27yo, getting late: if she put $500 against the loan each month, 0% interest, she's now out of debt. Still no net value. If she's found a husband, she has time for 1-2 kids before things get complicated. If she wants kids at all, school was a waste of time.
29yo, last chance: she focusses everything on finding a husband and gets one locked down in two years; one kid, maybe it's already too late. If she's still working at the same rate, she's got $6000 in savings; almost enough for a used car.
30yo, the wall: no house, no car, if she's had a kid she's paying for daycare and there's no more saving. Unless the husband wants to carry this "girlboss", divorce will come soon.
Feminists and the dual income economy. The entire trajectory of the decline in birth rates in the US is nearly 1:1 with feminism and the civil rights movement. This also tracks in all first world nations.
The idea that perpetual economic growth is possible is another one when clearly it can never be the case. They'll keep squeezing us until total collapse happens.
Housing is also a big factor. When people can't afford a permanent place to live, especially when the average age of first ownership is so high, you get a big delay in marriage and having children. Add in the broken culture, crap economy, propaganda that you need to be in the perfect place financially before you have kids, among other things.
Eh, maybe. Personally, I've got two teenagers in a two bedroom apartment and we make it work. I've seen immigrants squeeze three or four kids into the same space I have.
I think this is a propaganda thing. Maybe it's different in the States, but raising kids in Canada is actually pretty cheap. I don't think I've ever had to buy brand new clothes for them, other than undergarments, because there's just so much lightly used stuff everywhere. Ditto with toys. And, because no one is having kids but biology is still a thing, women constantly try to buy things for my kids. Not just family, like arms-length aquaintances. The biggest expense is food but the government gives up to $600 per kid per month so, whatever.
So yeah, I think what you are describing is the propaganda that stops people having kids, rather than the reality.
'Liberated' women, if I had to put money on it.
Because every single woman on the planet is a whore at heart. When left to their own devices, they will choose the cock carousel over raising a family every time. There is a reason they have been treated as property in every functional society in the history of mankind.
Here's the ONE caveat though: just like police arrest records, the hospitals are recording Hispanics as "White".
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