And She-Hulk went to prison for the murder of a transport pilot, BUT SHE WAS SEPARATED FROM HER CHILD!! WHAT DID YOU EXPECT HER TO DO, SIT IN A PRISON CELL?!?!
Still not nearly as on-the-nose as STD when Space Trump 1 said he was going to "Make the Empire great again," which is how you knew he was the bad guy. That and he opposed alien immigration into the Terran Empire. They had no choice but to side with Adolf Khan the Impaler, cannibal queen and literal destroyer of the multiverse, against him.
No, that was Gavin McInnes and their attempt at a Proud Boys parallel, as seen through liberal eyes after boofing the Daily Beast.
Space Trump was Lorca, the human captain of Discovery and the only sane man in NuTrek. They revealed he was from the mirror universe and trying to overthrow the empress (that old Asian bitch that's been in everything for the last decade), something something, then he said the Trump line and was evil.
I'm not leaving out details, it just actually doesn't make sense. There's no logical chain of events or final piece of the puzzle slotting into place. It just happens like a story told by a particularly dull 5-year old right out of surgery and still high off his ass.
You're making the mistake of thinking it's Star Trek. It's not. It never was. This isn't a subversion of Star Trek. It's really bad fanfic created by people who've never watched or liked Star Trek.
I'll second that. Also one of the few that shows the scale of fleets that powers owning the resources of a large chunk of a galaxy would be able to throw around.
Even in naval warfare minefields are only really practical when deployed in narrow and limited-"path" pockets of water. Bays, straits, etc.
Which is still a bit unpractical to pull off in open space because of how things scale vs ship size vs density requirements for sensible coverage. Plus three-dimensions of movement of course.
The few exceptions might be if you're deploying minefields near or around a stationary strategic location like a station or a small moon, but even that's going to be more costly than it's worth a lot of the time.
tl;dw is that it would take 10k ships 500-1000 years
To do what? Destroyed the whole minefield? That's not even needed when trying to bypass such an obstacle. Just burrow a point to allow movement and ignore the rest.
Even throwing self replication [back] into the mix [because DS9 did that decades ago] it only took The Dominion and Cardassia a few months to take that down, and IIRC STA is in the 30 ish century, so tech for disabling is just as advanced now as setting them up would be.
Hell, just open a black hole inside the minefield and get rid of them all at once, or mine space with blackholes since the tech to make those is from before even the Picard series.
On a completely unrelated tangent, any attempts to make Picard black much now refer to the result as Pocard. This was a typo i made in the previous sentence and deserves a mention for the inevitable retarded DEIverse shitshow that will follow.
Romulans in the TNG era use artificial singularities as power sources. They are tiny and presumably extremely unstable, but image the possibilities of weaponizing that. A black hole doesn't have to be large to wreck havoc on your antimatter containment.
No to BUILD the minefield in the 1st place. And these contain a synthetic version of the omega particles from the Voyager episode.
And this is a character who in the 1st ep was trying to steal a warp drive new a few months later he's able to synthetize "hundreds" (in the show they claim it's only hundred of mines) of these super advanced mines featuring not only the most powerful element in the universe but a lab grown version- what kind of top of the line tech lab does a space pirate have?
Even if you imagine the Federation in this show is WAY smaller than VOY era and the mines have an extreme blast radius of 20 light years you still have to ask how a lowly space pirate could plant them around the entire federation in a short period of time without anyone noticing.
Was it also Omega particles? Because lore wise those would actually be enough to serious fuck up everyone nearby if they went off. By that I mean render the local space incapable of supporting warp travel.
A 2d minefield can work depending on the need and angle, in example, a "curtain" of mines between a wormhole and the general space beyond it is a perfectly logical use of mines, though obviously it would still be much more effective if it had depth, if the goal is simply to force the enemy to move slower and maneuver themselves into disadvantageous formations/positions, rather than actually deal direct damage, perfectly reasonable.
That is not what is done here, but if better writers existed, even similar plot points can be made better.
The CGI visualization was spherical towards the end of episode 9. The 2D depictions were on console screens, meant to easily depict a top down spiral galaxy.
That's not to say that these last two episodes weren't utter trash, because they were. The lowest of low: in the nineties this would be considered a single filler episode, when they ran out of budget.
Major characters would be put on trial and the entire episode would be flashback scenes of previous episodes to cut costs. It wasn't that bad in these two episodes but it came pretty close.
And She-Hulk went to prison for the murder of a transport pilot, BUT SHE WAS SEPARATED FROM HER CHILD!! WHAT DID YOU EXPECT HER TO DO, SIT IN A PRISON CELL?!?!
She seems like such a great actress. Yet everything I have ever seen her in has been crap.
Also Space Trump BUILT A WALL
Still not nearly as on-the-nose as STD when Space Trump 1 said he was going to "Make the Empire great again," which is how you knew he was the bad guy. That and he opposed alien immigration into the Terran Empire. They had no choice but to side with Adolf Khan the Impaler, cannibal queen and literal destroyer of the multiverse, against him.
Yes, this all happened.
The Klingon Trump that was blacker than black, after the MC made the Discovery destroy a Klingon ship unprovoked?
No, that was Gavin McInnes and their attempt at a Proud Boys parallel, as seen through liberal eyes after boofing the Daily Beast.
Space Trump was Lorca, the human captain of Discovery and the only sane man in NuTrek. They revealed he was from the mirror universe and trying to overthrow the empress (that old Asian bitch that's been in everything for the last decade), something something, then he said the Trump line and was evil.
I'm not leaving out details, it just actually doesn't make sense. There's no logical chain of events or final piece of the puzzle slotting into place. It just happens like a story told by a particularly dull 5-year old right out of surgery and still high off his ass.
It's physical painful to even watch a teardown of this tripe. Look how they massacred my boy.
You're making the mistake of thinking it's Star Trek. It's not. It never was. This isn't a subversion of Star Trek. It's really bad fanfic created by people who've never watched or liked Star Trek.
Here's a really terrible and completely true statement: Voyager is in the upper half of Star Trek shows in terms of quality now.
Timestamp 24:45 for the Trump bit.
12:25 for the minefield bit. tl;dw is that it would take 10k ships 500-1000 years but they said in the show it was only hundreds of mines.
So tired of writers who don't understand how space battles would be different from naval battles.
I recommend The Legend of the Galactic Heroes to everyone.
I'll second that. Also one of the few that shows the scale of fleets that powers owning the resources of a large chunk of a galaxy would be able to throw around.
Thirded. Has anyone seen the remake version?
Last I saw, it was maybe a quarter of the way through the story, but it's been pretty good so far.
Even in naval warfare minefields are only really practical when deployed in narrow and limited-"path" pockets of water. Bays, straits, etc.
Which is still a bit unpractical to pull off in open space because of how things scale vs ship size vs density requirements for sensible coverage. Plus three-dimensions of movement of course.
The few exceptions might be if you're deploying minefields near or around a stationary strategic location like a station or a small moon, but even that's going to be more costly than it's worth a lot of the time.
To do what? Destroyed the whole minefield? That's not even needed when trying to bypass such an obstacle. Just burrow a point to allow movement and ignore the rest.
Even throwing self replication [back] into the mix [because DS9 did that decades ago] it only took The Dominion and Cardassia a few months to take that down, and IIRC STA is in the 30 ish century, so tech for disabling is just as advanced now as setting them up would be.
Hell, just open a black hole inside the minefield and get rid of them all at once, or mine space with blackholes since the tech to make those is from before even the Picard series.
On a completely unrelated tangent, any attempts to make Picard black much now refer to the result as Pocard. This was a typo i made in the previous sentence and deserves a mention for the inevitable retarded DEIverse shitshow that will follow.
Romulans in the TNG era use artificial singularities as power sources. They are tiny and presumably extremely unstable, but image the possibilities of weaponizing that. A black hole doesn't have to be large to wreck havoc on your antimatter containment.
The Star Trek reboot movie did weaponise it. Red Matter makes blackholes. The villain drops one into the core of Vulcan.
I can happily report I had forgotten every detail of that film.
No to BUILD the minefield in the 1st place. And these contain a synthetic version of the omega particles from the Voyager episode.
And this is a character who in the 1st ep was trying to steal a warp drive new a few months later he's able to synthetize "hundreds" (in the show they claim it's only hundred of mines) of these super advanced mines featuring not only the most powerful element in the universe but a lab grown version- what kind of top of the line tech lab does a space pirate have?
Even if you imagine the Federation in this show is WAY smaller than VOY era and the mines have an extreme blast radius of 20 light years you still have to ask how a lowly space pirate could plant them around the entire federation in a short period of time without anyone noticing.
I believe he missed the fact that the mines are made with a material called "Omega-47." As in the 47th American President. Literal Trump mines.
Was it also Omega particles? Because lore wise those would actually be enough to serious fuck up everyone nearby if they went off. By that I mean render the local space incapable of supporting warp travel.
Omega-47 are synthetically created omega particles
Fuck, I didn't even notice that watching the reviews. That is really fucking petty.
A 2d minefield can work depending on the need and angle, in example, a "curtain" of mines between a wormhole and the general space beyond it is a perfectly logical use of mines, though obviously it would still be much more effective if it had depth, if the goal is simply to force the enemy to move slower and maneuver themselves into disadvantageous formations/positions, rather than actually deal direct damage, perfectly reasonable.
That is not what is done here, but if better writers existed, even similar plot points can be made better.
It wasn't a 2D minefield.
The CGI visualization was spherical towards the end of episode 9. The 2D depictions were on console screens, meant to easily depict a top down spiral galaxy.
That's not to say that these last two episodes weren't utter trash, because they were. The lowest of low: in the nineties this would be considered a single filler episode, when they ran out of budget.
Major characters would be put on trial and the entire episode would be flashback scenes of previous episodes to cut costs. It wasn't that bad in these two episodes but it came pretty close.
Just unmitigated trash.