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Let's check in on how the libs are processing the Iran war (twitter.com)
posted 95 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 95 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +37 / -0
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– Kaarous 23 points 95 days ago +23 / -0

The funniest thing about this is that while what is being said is vaguely correct, those clearly aren't his thoughts.

This same retard claims that black men are being hunted by the tens of thousands throughout America for sport and that the worst genocide ever committed was the Tuskegee experiments.

A shrewd military analyst, he is not. The question for me is, who is he parroting? Or is he just fluffing the other side because they're not White?

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– horstshort 20 points 95 days ago +20 / -0

vaguely correct

Not just vaguely. Although the 'routed' bit is a bit retarded.

This is turning into one hell of a disaster if it keeps going because there is absolutely no way for the US to win this. Honestly it already is a disaster. There won't be any regime change and a ground invasion is pretty much impossible now and even if it would be possible it would turn into an absolute bloodbath. The topography of Iran is as bad as Afghanistans for any invader and unlike Afghanistan the US will be up against an experienced and well equipped professional military. Not a bunch of sheep farmers.

Also Iran has the ability to go scorched earth on the Middle Eastern oilfields. This has the potential to escalate into something much much bigger which is probably Israels goal anyway. Unless they're actually so retarded that they didn't see this coming.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 13 points 95 days ago +13 / -0

The ultimate objective of the US/Israel is regime change, but is that truly viewed as a necessary objective? If the regime doesn't fall, then airpower will probably kill another 30 generals and a few more bunkers and raise the Mission Accomplished banner. Basically, that would be a replay of the Yemeni air operation, except on a much wider scale.

The Iranian victory condition seems basically the same as Yemen's. Air defense is completely ineffective, but absorb casualties from regular bombings and remain standing until the opponent goes home.

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– horstshort 18 points 95 days ago +18 / -0

The Iranian victory condition seems basically the same as Yemen's. Air defense is completely ineffective, but absorb casualties from regular bombings and remain standing until the opponent goes home.

Only that Iran is shooting back. Hard. And it's hurting. Bad. The Houthis already managed to bankrupt ports in Israel and caused significant financial damage. Iran is on an entirely different level. You don't see much footage of it because the censorship is quite drastic in Israel and it'll probably increase significantly in the Gulf states too.

The US is utterly destroying their relationships with the Gulf states by leaving them hanging while draining their munitions stockpiles (especially AD) in record time which they can't replenish in any timely manner.

Gas and oil prices are spiking. The longer this continues the higher they get and if Iran at any point decides to actually attack the oil and gas infrastructure of the Gulf states the world economy is in for a VERY VERY bad time for quite a while.

Also Iranian AD isn't completely ineffective. They're shooting down drones quite regularly and the narrative that the US planes were shot down by friendly fire is questionable to say the least.

And nobody knows how many US soldiers have actually been killed. I expect it to be far more than just the six they admitted to.

So to summarize the US drains their stockpiles, destroys important relationships, sacrifices their own soldiers and military infrastructure, crashes the world economy for a few dead generals and officials that get replaced by the radicalized younger generations. And the global Shia population is extremely pissed off because they killed their equivalent to the Pope.

Trump is fucked. There is no way to get out of this mess even semi-cleanly like the last time. So where is this going to lead?

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– WeedleTLiar 16 points 95 days ago +16 / -0

Left wing victories at the polls, increased Islamic terrorism in the West, back to the Right in a few years.

Same as always.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 3 points 95 days ago +3 / -0

Also Iranian AD isn't completely ineffective. They're shooting down drones quite regularly and the narrative that the US planes were shot down by friendly fire is questionable to say the least.

Questionable? They were shot down over Kuwait. If Iran is such a wizard they can shoot down F-15s in safe airspace, they should be slaughtering them when they actually fly over Iran. It was Kuwaiti air defense.

Wake me up when Israeli crews get shot down in Iran and we have to stage a ground op to rescue them. The Israelis have bombed Iran with American jets for decades.

Only that Iran is shooting back. Hard. And it's hurting. Bad. The Houthis already managed to bankrupt ports in Israel and caused significant financial damage. Iran is on an entirely different level. You don't see much footage of it because the censorship is quite drastic in Israel and it'll probably increase significantly in the Gulf states too.

The US is utterly destroying their relationships with the Gulf states by leaving them hanging while draining their munitions stockpiles (especially AD) in record time which they can't replenish in any timely manner.

I agree that this is likely, at least, but it's difficult to assess now. We'll see what blocking the Strait of Hormuz does to the global economy. AFAIK the Houthis only blocked Israel/US-connected ships, not oil tankers. However, with respect to the diplomatic effects, countries tend to harden their stance against their attacker regardless of the cause of the conflict. This is a problem for both Iran and the US.

Iran also has the potential to go gloves off and attack oil infrastructure. Not sure why they haven't done that yet, with Khomeini and Ahmedinejad getting killed.

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– Kaarous 14 points 95 days ago +14 / -0

What I don't see most people talking about, on TD but even here, is the supply portion of this.

The Iranians have expended 8% or less of their long range stockpile. We've expended 45% of ours, and even more of our counter air.

Since the decapitation strike succeeded at killing political leadership but wasn't relevant to defeating the fighting capability of the enemy, well.

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– MassivePecorino 7 points 95 days ago +7 / -0

At current claimed rate of expenditures, the US forces in the region will be dry of defensive missiles inside of a week. Meanwhile, the Iranians set up their offensive systems to revert to local control if leadership dropped out of the loop.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 3 points 95 days ago +3 / -0

That's why we threw in the towel with the Houthis. It seems like we might do the same with Iran, but a logistical pothole is hardly a devastating loss for the US.

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– SocraticMethod1 5 points 95 days ago +5 / -0

I'd say the other risk is the fact Iran went out of their way to hit their neighbours beyond just US bases.

Having your command structure gutted with targeted strikes, diminished missile launching capabilities and no navy only coral reefs isn't good when every nation around you wants to jump you for attacking them.

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– WeedleTLiar 4 points 95 days ago +4 / -0

Yeah, but who cares? Those other nations are bigger shitholes than Iran and, since Bidens's endowment, probably have less contemporary equipment than Afghanistan.

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– Mpetey123 3 points 95 days ago +3 / -0

Man you love riding Iran's dick. You are such a muzzie faggot.

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– horstshort 16 points 95 days ago +16 / -0

How's the Jew cock tasting?

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– Mpetey123 2 points 95 days ago +2 / -0

Wouldn't know. You would though, the muzzies are Semitic as well.

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 95 days ago +9 / -0

So pointing out that this neocon war of aggression was stupid and likely to fail, is "riding Iran's dick"?

2003 called, they want their "you support Saddam" talking points back.

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– Mpetey123 2 points 95 days ago +2 / -0

No, but that's not what he's doing. He's riding Iran's dick by lying about the status of the country and pretending it's some noble place.

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– deleted 3 points 95 days ago +3 / -0
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– SocraticMethod1 6 points 95 days ago +6 / -0

who is he parroting? Or is he just fluffing the other side because they're not White?

See this is the issue, because the left have dominated media studies for decades, they've all been coached how to say bullshit.

His post reminds me of Chinese/North Korean military propaganda, taking the gains of truth then injecting so much bs you'd think they were part of Mk ultra...

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– ApathySK 4 points 95 days ago +4 / -0

the worst genocide ever committed was the Tuskegee experiments.

So you're saying we shouldn't trust the experts or vaccines?

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