In all their variety probably more than just 40%. It's the same situation all over the European world. The countries get flooded with third world immigrants and strangely enough the average student gets worse.
That's an explanation for Europe, but not for America. The number of blacks hasn't increased markedly in the past few years to cause this decline. And you specifically talked about them, not immigrants in general.
That's an explanation for Europe, but not for America.
The US has been getting flooded with third world immigrants just as much as Europe. Arguably even more so.
And you specifically talked about them, not immigrants in general.
Niggers were the one example I brought up because they are the best example for it. Not because I make them solely responsible for the decline. Next time I'm going to be a bit clearer.
The US has been getting flooded with third world immigrants just as much as Europe. Arguably even more so.
You have no idea how bad it is here. At least you're getting the best of those countries. We are getting the very worst, literally people who'd be despised in their own countries.
Not because I make them solely responsible for the decline. Next time I'm going to be a bit clearer.
Having watched the video in question, I think it's more those last two than anything to do with AI. AI is just the excuse kids were cited as latching onto in order to justify their refusal to learn. The hyperstimulation burning out attention spans is more to blame than AI and that's been a building issue for decades.
Look at most of those teachers in that video. Stupid purple hairs and lesbians. Maybe they should try teaching something other than politics.
Teaching has been broken for ages anyway. So many teachers just want to stroke their egos, and it's the ones that pretend to be nice that are the worst offenders of this. They have a need to look back and see just what great non-questioning citizens they've brainwashed.
Next there's parents. Parents don't give a shit about their kids, or if they say they do it's all the way up until something might be hard for them, then "oh no they might feel bad I better save them from that!" So they stick them on a tablet and tell them to shut up because they gotta have some more wine and avocado. My youngest nephew started Kindergarten being able to read I'd be willing to bet as well as the average student departing elementary school. He wasn't allowed to spend all his time consuming garbage content either though.
Then we have the whole IQ thing. Facts are facts, browns have less IQ and browns make up a higher percentage as we let them in. Not to mention how much more of them parent even less.
Those teacher's don't want to teach students; they never did. They want to indoctrinate them into their belief system. And the schools and teachers unions know it and support it. And unlike their predecessors who did want to teach students, they make gatekeeping the current status quo among their top priorities.
I had a job as an IT contractor at schools the year after I graduated high school. Which was a bit odd in and of itself because I have always looked younger than my age and here we have a 19 year old that looks 14 roaming around the school.
I learned really quick the facade that school was to a student. These were rural schools for the most part not liberal treasure troves. Still the combination of how teachers were among themselves (it's basically a reality show of bullshit and gossip) and just how plain stupid some of them were was shocking to me. I mean we were 20 years into computers by then and these older 20s teachers just had no idea. Who could you count on to not totally screw it up? I mean for fuck sake the viruses and spyware these teachers would get was astronomical. Who never got them? The old men shop and agriculture teachers that somehow managed to use their computer for what they needed and never break anything.
I mean knowing it came from a place called "stop tech" is kind of handy information when it comes to understanding what kind of biases lead you to trusting the judgement of a bunch of rainbow haired elementary and middle school teachers.
ChatGPT was released to the public on November 30th of 2022.
That's crazy! That's a whole year missing from those fourth graders learning and AI being something available to the public.
It's almost like the teachers are trying to blame something else for them not being able to so their job properly...
Let's check in on the next level of year group that get checked for this, the 8th graders.
The average national reading score for eighth graders in 2024 was 260, a 2-point decrease from 2022 and 5 points lower than the 2019 score of 265. This marks the third consecutive decline since 2019, indicating persistent challenges in student reading achievement.
So pre-AI, pre-pandemic reading was down. Well, down from what exactly?
1992-2002: Scores rose from 260 in 1992 to 263 in 2002, indicating early improvement. That's nice :)
2002-2017: Performance remained relatively stable, fluctuating between 260 and 265, peaking at 268 in 2013.
2017-2024: A slight decline to 263 in 2017, back up to 265 in 2019, down again to 263 in 2022 and then flat-lining to 260 in 2024, marking the lowest score since NAEP began.
Between 1992 (When NAEP started) and 2024 the results were the exact same. We've had the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 and the Every Student Succeeds Act of 2015 in there. If we look at the percentile, lower-performing students (10th and 25th percentiles) scores are now significantly lower than in 1992.
In 1992, 32% of students scored at or above the NAEP Proficient. In 2024, only 30% reached that level, with a record 34% scoring below Basic. That's a decline in reading ability despite two acts focused on increasing it. Learning resources are through the roof and students access information much more readily than ever before.
The pandemic and AI sure seem like a great go-to for this, but the only other constant here has been the teachers. Is it possible the teachers are to blame?
With their reflective practitioner development training and their cognitive dissonance bias awareness you'd think they'd be open to the concept of the problem perhaps being them. Instead of admitting that teachers are of a poorer quality the blame will move onto changes in testing parameters, the weather, Trump - whatever, just never the teachers.
This has nothing to do with AI and everything to do with unionised asshats wanting to blame the world for their inadequacies. Intersectional learning comes with intersectional blame. Fire them all.
Perhaps their quality leaning programs can lean on a lamppost on a dark street corner instead of on our wallets.
To reinforce the thesis that it's the useless fat harpies in the public school system being shit at their jobs. Home schooled kids are still far more advanced readers on average than public schooled ones, and there has been no discernable drop in that quality since the mass availability of AI LLMs.
Not just home schools. Charter schools repeatedly outperform public schools when demographics are similar. Private and religious schools also repeatedly outperform public schools. It’s almost like there is one mass funded system that repeatedly puts out decreasing results and everyone else performs better.
You think those who are homeschooling put their kids on AI, social media and iPads? We're talking about the people who are most interested in their children's development, are skeptical of modern systems and modern education and also don't mind putting time and effort into teaching their children. They're not the kind of people to be raising their kids on iPads with TikTok and chatbots.
Trusting retarded purple haired teachers to be honest is your first mistake. 40% of students can’t read because 40% of students are from the third world and were raised to be permanent ESL kids and special needs grifts. The highest literacy rate states are- New Hampshire, North Dakota, Iowa, Vermont, South Dakota, Maine, and Kansas. All magically with 92%+ literacy rates.
No, it's not because of AI dependence. This problem has existed before LLMs. Niggers not being able to read isn't anything new.
'Niggers' are 40%?
In all their variety probably more than just 40%. It's the same situation all over the European world. The countries get flooded with third world immigrants and strangely enough the average student gets worse.
That's an explanation for Europe, but not for America. The number of blacks hasn't increased markedly in the past few years to cause this decline. And you specifically talked about them, not immigrants in general.
The US has been getting flooded with third world immigrants just as much as Europe. Arguably even more so.
Niggers were the one example I brought up because they are the best example for it. Not because I make them solely responsible for the decline. Next time I'm going to be a bit clearer.
You have no idea how bad it is here. At least you're getting the best of those countries. We are getting the very worst, literally people who'd be despised in their own countries.
Gotcha.
But this is a recent decline across the board they're talking about so it's because of AI, social media and technology
It's not recent. That decline has been happening for decades. Social media and now LLMs have only accelerated that decline but isn't the cause of it.
Having watched the video in question, I think it's more those last two than anything to do with AI. AI is just the excuse kids were cited as latching onto in order to justify their refusal to learn. The hyperstimulation burning out attention spans is more to blame than AI and that's been a building issue for decades.
Look at most of those teachers in that video. Stupid purple hairs and lesbians. Maybe they should try teaching something other than politics.
Teaching has been broken for ages anyway. So many teachers just want to stroke their egos, and it's the ones that pretend to be nice that are the worst offenders of this. They have a need to look back and see just what great non-questioning citizens they've brainwashed.
Next there's parents. Parents don't give a shit about their kids, or if they say they do it's all the way up until something might be hard for them, then "oh no they might feel bad I better save them from that!" So they stick them on a tablet and tell them to shut up because they gotta have some more wine and avocado. My youngest nephew started Kindergarten being able to read I'd be willing to bet as well as the average student departing elementary school. He wasn't allowed to spend all his time consuming garbage content either though.
Then we have the whole IQ thing. Facts are facts, browns have less IQ and browns make up a higher percentage as we let them in. Not to mention how much more of them parent even less.
Those teacher's don't want to teach students; they never did. They want to indoctrinate them into their belief system. And the schools and teachers unions know it and support it. And unlike their predecessors who did want to teach students, they make gatekeeping the current status quo among their top priorities.
I had a job as an IT contractor at schools the year after I graduated high school. Which was a bit odd in and of itself because I have always looked younger than my age and here we have a 19 year old that looks 14 roaming around the school.
I learned really quick the facade that school was to a student. These were rural schools for the most part not liberal treasure troves. Still the combination of how teachers were among themselves (it's basically a reality show of bullshit and gossip) and just how plain stupid some of them were was shocking to me. I mean we were 20 years into computers by then and these older 20s teachers just had no idea. Who could you count on to not totally screw it up? I mean for fuck sake the viruses and spyware these teachers would get was astronomical. Who never got them? The old men shop and agriculture teachers that somehow managed to use their computer for what they needed and never break anything.
This is of course not counting the ones who are just there to molest kids.
Here's the link you should have posted you damned interloper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTugyu2F0pc
I mean knowing it came from a place called "stop tech" is kind of handy information when it comes to understanding what kind of biases lead you to trusting the judgement of a bunch of rainbow haired elementary and middle school teachers.
Tech is what caused the rainbow hair retardation epidemic.
I'd say more but I'm trying to cut down my Tedposting.
Crossposts exist for a reason
No. Go post on that other forum then.
Someone already did post it there and I thought I'd share it and give them credit
ChatGPT was released to the public on November 30th of 2022.
That's crazy! That's a whole year missing from those fourth graders learning and AI being something available to the public.
It's almost like the teachers are trying to blame something else for them not being able to so their job properly...
Let's check in on the next level of year group that get checked for this, the 8th graders.
The average national reading score for eighth graders in 2024 was 260, a 2-point decrease from 2022 and 5 points lower than the 2019 score of 265. This marks the third consecutive decline since 2019, indicating persistent challenges in student reading achievement.
So pre-AI, pre-pandemic reading was down. Well, down from what exactly?
1992-2002: Scores rose from 260 in 1992 to 263 in 2002, indicating early improvement. That's nice :)
2002-2017: Performance remained relatively stable, fluctuating between 260 and 265, peaking at 268 in 2013.
2017-2024: A slight decline to 263 in 2017, back up to 265 in 2019, down again to 263 in 2022 and then flat-lining to 260 in 2024, marking the lowest score since NAEP began.
Between 1992 (When NAEP started) and 2024 the results were the exact same. We've had the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 and the Every Student Succeeds Act of 2015 in there. If we look at the percentile, lower-performing students (10th and 25th percentiles) scores are now significantly lower than in 1992.
In 1992, 32% of students scored at or above the NAEP Proficient. In 2024, only 30% reached that level, with a record 34% scoring below Basic. That's a decline in reading ability despite two acts focused on increasing it. Learning resources are through the roof and students access information much more readily than ever before.
The pandemic and AI sure seem like a great go-to for this, but the only other constant here has been the teachers. Is it possible the teachers are to blame?
With their reflective practitioner development training and their cognitive dissonance bias awareness you'd think they'd be open to the concept of the problem perhaps being them. Instead of admitting that teachers are of a poorer quality the blame will move onto changes in testing parameters, the weather, Trump - whatever, just never the teachers.
This has nothing to do with AI and everything to do with unionised asshats wanting to blame the world for their inadequacies. Intersectional learning comes with intersectional blame. Fire them all.
Perhaps their quality leaning programs can lean on a lamppost on a dark street corner instead of on our wallets.
To reinforce the thesis that it's the useless fat harpies in the public school system being shit at their jobs. Home schooled kids are still far more advanced readers on average than public schooled ones, and there has been no discernable drop in that quality since the mass availability of AI LLMs.
Not just home schools. Charter schools repeatedly outperform public schools when demographics are similar. Private and religious schools also repeatedly outperform public schools. It’s almost like there is one mass funded system that repeatedly puts out decreasing results and everyone else performs better.
You think those who are homeschooling put their kids on AI, social media and iPads? We're talking about the people who are most interested in their children's development, are skeptical of modern systems and modern education and also don't mind putting time and effort into teaching their children. They're not the kind of people to be raising their kids on iPads with TikTok and chatbots.
Trusting retarded purple haired teachers to be honest is your first mistake. 40% of students can’t read because 40% of students are from the third world and were raised to be permanent ESL kids and special needs grifts. The highest literacy rate states are- New Hampshire, North Dakota, Iowa, Vermont, South Dakota, Maine, and Kansas. All magically with 92%+ literacy rates.
Wonder what else they have in common. Hallways that don't chirp?
I really like her channel. She's usually right on point.
What race are those kids?