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Billionaire Paul Singer, Trump mega-donor, bought Citgo and their oil refineries in November (twitter.com)
posted 167 days ago by Kienan 167 days ago by Kienan +63 / -0
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– Unknownsailor 26 points 167 days ago +26 / -0

Singer also bought all of Venezuela's sovereign debt, which they hadn't made any payments on in some time. If they start making payments, Singer will get the payments.

In short, Trump did this for Paul Singer, and I challenge anyone to tell me different.

Zion Don is Israel owned, through his donors. Everyone can see it, and this is why he's underwater on favorability polls, and why Republicans will lose the House and Senate this year.

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– AntonioOfVenice 15 points 167 days ago +15 / -0

Zion Don is Israel owned, through his donors. Everyone can see it, and this is why he's underwater on favorability polls, and why Republicans will lose the House and Senate this year.

All American presidents have been Israel-owned. The difference is that they made some gestures to try to pretend that this was not the case, like Biden making feckless criticisms and blocking deliveries of a bomb that Israel wasn't even using (IIRC), while Trump openly lets Netanyahu dogwalk him like he has a humiliation fetish.

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– horstshort 13 points 167 days ago +13 / -0

while Trump openly lets Netanyahu dogwalk him like he has a humiliation fetish.

He couldn't make it any more obvious and yet there are so many retards who still refuse to see it. I'm just waiting for the day Trump starts sucking off Bibi live on television but I don't think even that would help to wake those idiots up.

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– Kienan [S] 4 points 167 days ago +4 / -0

like Biden making feckless criticisms

I do find it sad and ironic that Biden was called antisemitic and anti-Israel while he was first or second most pro-Israel, when you actually look at policy. Now, to be fair, some of that was reaction to October 7th; it wasn't a normal time for Israel, so of course my government would give their government a bunch more of our money!

Point is, though, Biden gave Israel more than anyone had in decades, I think, while he got smeared by all the Zionists and leftists. Makes me almost feel bad for the dude.

Anything but complete and utter Israel bootlicking, both in policy and speech, is declared genocidal antisemitism.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 167 days ago +6 / -0

They started calling me anti-semitic and a Khamas supporter when I objected to their unprovoked war against Iran. Same for Charlie Kirk, Megyn Kelly, and all the other people who, like me, had backed the genocide in Gaza for more than 1.5 years.

What I like about the right is that I can have whatever beliefs I want. Some people here don't like me, but no one's trying to ban me or drive me out. It's quite galling then to have some other state's supporters make demands on me and insult me like they own me. It's an unfathomable level of ingratitude that most of their supporters have not yet experienced.

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– Kienan [S] 5 points 167 days ago +5 / -0

Yeah, it's wild how quickly they turn on people. Piers Morgan is now basically Hitler, because he finally saw that the position he'd been pushing wasn't palatable anymore and, in my opinion, tried to bandwagon the more popular opinion. That's it. He doesn't hate Israel or the Jews, he just realized he couldn't support their actions in Gaza any longer.

He's not an antisemite, and still runs defense and spergs out at actual antisemites, in fact. But, still, since he's been critical of some Israeli actions...he get's the tiny mustache treatment too!

What I like about the right is that I can have whatever beliefs I want. Some people here don't like me, but no one's trying to ban me or drive me out.

One or two probably would ban you if they could, but it's a tiny minority. I do like how largely everyone gets along here, despite our differences of opinion.

It's an unfathomable level of ingratitude that most of their supporters have not yet experienced.

Hopefully that changes. All it takes is them stepping out of line once, and the Zionists will try to destroy their reputations. That's a massive wakeup call to anyone with a spine.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 167 days ago +3 / -0

Piers Morgan is now basically Hitler, because he finally saw that the position he'd been pushing wasn't palatable anymore and, in my opinion, tried to bandwagon the more popular opinion.

Correct. Because this guy who brags about opposing the Iraq War supported attacking Iran based on even flimsier WMD grounds.

He's not an antisemite, and still runs defense and spergs out at actual antisemites, in fact.

In a very cringy manner, too. He had me be on the side of that homosexual virgin fed.... that's how bad he was.

One or two probably would ban you if they could, but it's a tiny minority. I do like how largely everyone gets along here, despite our differences of opinion.

And I like that people who tear each other to shreds in one thread are perfectly civil to one another in the next. Mostly.

Hopefully that changes. All it takes is them stepping out of line once, and the Zionists will try to destroy their reputations. That's a massive wakeup call to anyone with a spine.

Sometimes I think that the cleavage in politics isn't left vs. right, but honest vs. dishonest and spine vs. spineless. Remember Bret Weinstein, that Bernie-supporting very left-wing professor who objected when students demanded that white people not appear on campus for a Day of Absence. I listened to him for that reason.

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– Kienan [S] 1 point 167 days ago +1 / -0

In a very cringy manner, too. He had me be on the side of that homosexual virgin fed.... that's how bad he was.

I mean, Nick utterly thrashed him. Bilzerian did too, in just the most utterly brute force method. Paraphrasing, but he just said "yes, Jews are fucking evil, read their books and...no, Piers, I will not apologize of feel bad." Piers is so incompetent all he's got is shaming tactics, so he loses to anyone, regardless of position, if they simply won't let themselves be shamed.

Piers is basically playing Russian roulette with a semiauto; if his opponents won't play his game, he shoots himself. Because, if his shaming tactics don't work, he automatically loses, because he looks like an utter fool.

Sometimes I think that the cleavage in politics isn't left vs. right, but honest vs. dishonest and spine vs. spineless.

And principles. It's why, even if I don't agree with them, or I even find them annoying on some issues, I respect some leftists and even socialists. Jimmy Dore, Glenn Greenwald (literal gay Jewish leftist), and the like, are all way left on some economic and cultural issues, but have principles and come from a place of good faith...and are also right about a lot of stuff.

Remember Bret Weinstein, that Bernie-supporting very left-wing professor who objected when students demanded that white people not appear on campus for a Day of Absence. I listened to him for that reason.

Now compare him to schmucks like James Lindsay, alleged based anti-communist conservative. (Insert massive laugh track here.) Yeah, I'll take Bret Weinstein every time, thanks.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 167 days ago +1 / -0

Piers is so incompetent all he's got is shaming tactics, so he loses to anyone, regardless of position, if they simply won't let themselves be shamed.

Incorrigible boomer.

Piers is basically playing Russian roulette with a semiauto; if his opponents won't play his game, he shoots himself. Because, if his shaming tactics don't work, he automatically loses, because he looks like an utter fool.

He looks like one because he is. "Don't you see how that is terrible offensive" is not an argument. Refute it or get out.

It's why, even if I don't agree with them, or I even find them annoying on some issues, I respect some leftists and even socialists. Jimmy Dore, Glenn Greenwald (literal gay Jewish leftist), and the like, are all way left on some economic and cultural issues, but have principles and come from a place of good faith...and are also right about a lot of stuff.

Yup. And of course, I disagree on economic issues a lot with the average American. The 'far-right' parties in Europe are far to the left of the Democrats on economic issues. To 95% of Europeans, it's wild that you have 0 mandated PTO days in America, and that there is such a thing as 'sick days' (dekachin told me about it while bragging that he had 10 sick days every year). No judgment, it's just not a way we could live.

Now compare him to schmucks like James Lindsay, alleged based anti-communist conservative. (Insert massive laugh track here.) Yeah, I'll take Bret Weinstein every time, thanks.

I honestly liked James Lindsey. What he did exposing those journals was great. But he's gone incredibly off the rails. As you say, he has abandoned all honesty in his Jihad against the "woke right". Most unforgivable to me was how he supported "Christian" Joel Berry after he came out in favor of killing Christians in Gaza because "they all support Khamas".

There are people on the right who sound like the woke. But they just weaponize it against every critic of Israel.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 15 points 167 days ago +15 / -0

Singer also bought all of Venezuela's sovereign debt, which they hadn't made any payments on in some time. If they start making payments, Singer will get the payments.

Gooooood grief

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– BeefyBelisarius 8 points 167 days ago +8 / -0

And it doesn't make any sense for an elderly billionaire to be so hard up for cash that he sells out, so that really makes one wonder what sort of leverage they were able to seize to get this much control. Did Netanyahu tell him, "the next bullets will be aimed at your grandchildren," or something?

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– estbleu 10 points 167 days ago +10 / -0

There's some noises about him having converted to chabad judaism. Photos of him praying or performing obeisance or something at the tomb of their supposed messiah. Mark Levin and others calling him the first jewish president, etc.

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 167 days ago +8 / -0

The likelihood of Trump believing in something greater than himself is 0.

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 167 days ago +8 / -0

it doesn't make any sense for an elderly billionaire to be so hard up for cash that he sells out,

Trump had no principles to sell out. And while it makes no sense for us mortals that a billionaire who has more than he could ever spend would want more money, that doesn't mean that they won't. There is a will to power and status, which makes having six billion better than having five billion. That's why he bilked his own supporters with the cryptocoin, and evil tongues claim that this is a mechanism for bribery.

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– Grumman 1 point 167 days ago +1 / -0

Trump gets to look like a strategic genius as he abducts a communist dictator with zero friendly casualties before parading him through the streets like a Roman triumph, with the potential of instantly flipping Venezuela from China's side of the board to America's.

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– MartinRigggs 5 points 167 days ago +5 / -0

He’s just jew owned like the rest of our government. It’s Jewish mafia, it supersedes borders, and yeah, Israel plays a role because there’s a large concentration of jews there, but that influence is everywhere, in both parties, in all nations.

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– Kienan [S] 2 points 167 days ago +2 / -0

Oof, that's dirty.

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– Kienan [S] 16 points 167 days ago +16 / -0

Nitter.

So, is the only difference now that Israel gets a cut of the deal?!

At first I was going to disagree with this part, and just assumed corporate greed but, just like with Larry Ellison, who is the largest individual donor to the IDF (through various companies and methods), Paul Singer puts his money where his mouth is, and is involved with the IDF and Unit 8200 through his organization Start-Up Nation Central (SUNC).

So, yes, due to how Singer uses his wealth, Israel will be directly benefiting from what the US did in Venezuela.

The whole thing is just insanely corrupt. Singer bought the company - a Venezuelan subsidiary - for much, much less than it was worth...because the US had sanctioned them so they couldn't profit, blockaded their country...and then forced the sale because Venezuela couldn't pay their creditors.

Singer was essentially handed a Venezuelan company by the US courts. Ironically, it's almost exactly like what Maduro did to US oil companies, that pissed of the US interests so much.

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– cccpneveragain 13 points 167 days ago +13 / -0

Think about it if this were Russia instead. When they were sanctioned many businesses large and small were pretty much forced to give up their Russian operations or quickly sell them for nothing to Russian people as they wouldn’t be allowed to trade/profit from them. Yet in this case we also have a hostile country under sanctions and its business as usual because some billionaires can profit and it isn’t “bad”. If we had any sense of consistency and honesty Singer would have never been allowed to purchase Venezuelan assets.

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– FellowCanuckIstan 2 points 167 days ago +2 / -0

Chavez did

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– Kienan [S] 2 points 167 days ago +2 / -0

My bad.

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 167 days ago +7 / -0

Don't worry, he'll probably pay Trump back with the cryptocoin using some of the profits.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 5 points 167 days ago +5 / -0

Jews run the country and make all major decisions to benefit themselves. The discussions on America's sphere of influence, the Monroe Doctrine, etc. are completely pointless.

There is no "America" whose interests are being represented in foreign policy. There is only international Jewry and its usage of America as a tool.

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– MattTheBlack 3 points 167 days ago +3 / -0

This is why my problem with the whole thing isn't that it was done but why it was done

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– Kienan [S] 3 points 167 days ago +3 / -0

Personally, I object to both, but to each their own.

I don't want an expansionist America, but I can see the argument too.

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– MattTheBlack 2 points 167 days ago +2 / -0

I think that the US has to start cracking down on foreign powers trying to make inroads to the western hemisphere or we will be destroyed. China is flooding us with fent and propaganda while Brics is looting resources from south america

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– theaustrianpainter 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

That talk goes both ways. Its why Russia invaded the ukraine. The end is endless military buildup that eventually explodes into a major war.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0

Well I never cared about Russia invading Ukraine. Humans will always war. If we region lock ourselves militarily it's alot less likely to have any prolonged military conflicts. As far as I'm concerned if NATO didn't want Russia to attack Ukraine then Biden shouldn't have said that we were going to invite them into NATO and completely wall off Russia

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– MartinRigggs 3 points 167 days ago +3 / -0

Yup….its always about helping Jew’s gain more wealth and power, without fail. You don’t even need to really investigate any of the government lies, just assume whatever big thing they’re doing is about Jewish interests and you’ll be right 100% of the time

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– nuggetpatrol 2 points 167 days ago +2 / -0

I haven't heard of Citgo since 7-11 stopped using them in the 90s.

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– realsolidsnakeoil 1 point 167 days ago +1 / -0

Oh God, someone felt the wind blowing and turned sails. How could this have ever happen?

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